View Poll Results: Should we bring the Pegaso 650 Strada to the US in '06?

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Thread: '06 Pegaso 650 Strada shown at Laguna

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSchinkel
    Question: I have a Suzuki V-Strom 650 and love the engine but am not so happy with the rest of the bike. Would the Strada be a reasonable replacement? I worry that the single cylinder wouldn't be a smooth. I mostly use for intown, or for "back road touring" when I don't want to be a serious as I need to be to ride my Tuono.
    Hi Mike...

    my main rides over the past 12-18 months have been a CBR6 (IL4) RGV250 (2-stroke twin) and my 04 Mille...

    This was my first time on a big cc single, and first impressions within the first 30-40 miles were that it was a totally different machine to anything i'd ridden before.. the CBR6 was smooth.. very little upset it.. the RGV is a buzz machine, and only happy around the 8-12k mark.. The Strada needs to be ridden very similar to how I ride my Mille, you have to ride the torque rather than the revs.. Its not as smooth as I'd have liked it to be, but a great seat and bar weights keep a lot of the vibes away from the rider.

    The only real annoying vibes I found were the mirrors were useless at anything above 50mph.. everything just shakes in the rear view... and through the pegs when pushing it higher speeds in 5th (around the 80-90mph) and the hole bike seems alive. With my wife on the back (at motorway speeds (80-90)) she was complaning that holding onto the grab rail for any length of time gave her numb hands!

    I dont think this bike is really aimed at the high constant speeds that we inflicted on it for the last couple of days of our tour.. Its just so much more happier blatting about the A's, B's & twisties, riding the torque and acting like a hooligan!

    It will feel a lot lumpier than your V-Storm (which I assume is a similar ride to a friends SV650 that i've ridden) but at the end of the day, its a very different machine.. and in my opinion a better machine for town work.. When you get used to the lumpyness...

    If it were mine, the only 2 things that would need looking at are
    1) The front brakes - Why have Aprilia scrimped on a single disc.. My RS125 had more front braking force! Dual discs would have made this a pleasure!
    2) The Cans - Some decent sounding straight through cans will make this bike sound the way it should! The popping and farting on overun should be a nice wholesome sound.. not the quiet little baby fart that it is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaillum
    Hi Mike...

    It will feel a lot lumpier than your V-Storm (which I assume is a similar ride to a friends SV650 that i've ridden) but at the end of the day, its a very different machine.. and in my opinion a better machine for town work.. When you get used to the lumpyness...
    Thanks for the additional details. Sounds like a really nice 2nd bike. FYI, the V-Strom engine has a much different feel than an SV650 engine albiet it is 95% the same. The V-Strom has a nice fat torque smooth curve and you can ride it really lazily which is one of its appeals as a 2nd bike. It's actually feels like it makes more torque in the 3-6k range than my Tuono. The SV650 needs to be reved a lot more and it's torque curve is not nearly as sweet, but it is a faster overall bike when ridden hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaillum
    If it were mine, the only 2 things that would need looking at are
    1) The front brakes - Why have Aprilia scrimped on a single disc.. My RS125 had more front braking force! Dual discs would have made this a pleasure!
    2) The Cans - Some decent sounding straight through cans will make this bike sound the way it should! The popping and farting on overun should be a nice wholesome sound.. not the quiet little baby fart that it is...
    I don't blame them for the lack of a second disk; I think it was very smart; as long as they offer a reasonably priced "second disk" kit. By leaving it off it cuts down on the initial price which is essential for a bike in this category, but making the wheel support two discs allows for later upgrade. Brilliant (or at least common sense), I say!

    What I hate is bikes that offer lesser features but no easy upgrade path. Phooey!

    As for the cans, well, talk to your government about that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSchinkel
    I don't blame them for the lack of a second disk; I think it was very smart; as long as they offer a reasonably priced "second disk" kit.
    In 2006, the Strada will get an ABS system. I suppose this will be available as an add-on as well.

    I'll check the Stradas for 2nd disc mounting in the Showroom of my local Prilla Stealer, gotta pick up some Falco parts there today (If they finally arrived )

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_modem_go
    Wouldn't be possible without some losses. List price is a whopping € 6878.- (US$ 8313.-) in Germany, more in Italy, UK and France, although that includes VAT tax (16% here). If you get it for $7k, you'll be lucky!

    Sourcing the engine from Yamaha makes it pretty expensive as well, since the XT660X is a direct competitor
    Yamaha doesn't play in that market in the US- Aprilia may be able to get motors to be exported to the US for less than motors for sale in Europe, since it won't be competing with a Yamaha-built bike here.

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    Thank You!

    Thank You!

    The feedback from the Pegaso Survey was extremely valuable. While the final decision will be made in Italy, the feedback and the poll proved that this product has a place here.

    Because the Aprilia Forum responded the way it did, I believe the 650 Strada is heading our way in '06!

    A special thanks to AF1 as well - You guys rock.

    Hampton

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    Prova: Aprila Pegaso Strada 650 - by Star-Trek

    Star-Trek prova la Aprila Pegaso Strada 650

    Com’è:

    Bella, bella, bella!
    Sentimentale e tradizionalista come sono, affezionato alla vecchia linea della Pegaso, all’inizio avevo storto un po’ il naso nel vedere questa nuova versione: la Pegaso Strada…
    …Poi, vedendola dal vivo devo dire che invece mi è piaciuta moltissimo: il grande faro che forma il cupolino della moto mi fa pensare al muso di un leone, i collettori di scarico che passano lucidi e ben in vista sulla destra, e i cerchi in alluminio anodizzato blu le conferiscono un aspetto estremamente Racing! Molto accattivante!

    La strumentazione è bella chiara e completa con il contagiri analogico ed un ampio schermo digitale che funge da contachilometri e fornisce tutte le informazioni possibili ed immaginabili, essendo un vero e proprio computer di bordo gestito da un comodo “mouse” collocato sul blocchetto della manopola sinistra!

    Un'altra cosa che mi è piaciuta moltissimo sono i vani: quello sotto la sella, ricavato nello spazio tra gli scarichi, bello ampio e comunque mai troppo caldo, e specialmente quello piccolo sul serbatoio, che (si apre solo a chiave inserita da un bottone sul blocchetto della manopola sinistra), copre il tappo serbatoio ed offre uno piccolo vano perfetto per metterci documenti, carte, portafogli e quei maledetti spiccioli che quando ti fermi ad un casello ti costringono a spogliarti mezzo per tirarli fuori! Davvero una gran trovata!
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    Come va:

    Beh, come al solito, avendo la mano abituata al mio amato bicilindrico ci metto un po’ prima di iniziare a familiarizzare con l’erogazione di una nuova moto, ma devo dire che il monocilindrico a 4 valvole che equipaggia la Pegaso Strada risponde abbastanza prontamente, ed è un piacere sentirlo borbottare mentre sale di giri o quando si scala…
    Sul solito tragitto che percorro quando vado a fare i miei giri di prova, c’è un tratto misto stretto che mi sembrava completamente nuovo: la strada sembrava più larga! Complice il peso ridotto, la posizione di guida e la notevole rigidità del telaio, la Pegaso Strada ha una maneggevolezza impressionate, tanto da sembrare un bicicletta, e i cambi destra-sinistra nei vari tornanti erano fulminei!
    A conferma di questa mia impressione c’è dire che a valle avevo incrociato un gruppo di biker fuori da un bar con motone super-sportive tipo 999, CBR & co. che si stavano infilando i caschi e mi guardavano con aria minacciosa come a dire “vai vai tanto tra un po’ ti facciamo vedere i sorci verdi…”, quindi mi son detto “meglio affrettare il passo onde evitare di trovarsi con questi scalmanati in piena curva“… Avevo calcolato che ad occhio e croce mi avrebbero passato sul tratto dritto che c’è a metà strada, ed invece sono arrivato in cima, mi sono spogliato ho iniziato a far foto e solo allora li ho visti arrivare…
    Ritornando ad aspetti più tecnici, la seduta e le sospensioni sono molto confortevoli.. forse un po’ troppo la forcella anteriore per reggere le staccate più brusche, ma in ogni caso ben adeguata all’utilizzo della moto. I freni, Brembo (a 4 pistoncini), come consuetudine Aprilia, rispondono prontamente, e la moto rimane sempre ben bilanciata…
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    Volendo essere pignoli:
    Peccati veniali!
    Si potrebbero contestare i tubi freno in gomma, (magari, visto l’alto livello delle rifiniture, potevano concedersi un paio di tubi in treccia), e gli interruttori dei comandi “troppo delicati2, (almeno sul modello che ho provato io, gli interruttori di fari e frecce erano così sensibili che con i guanti non ci si rendeva conto se li si era azionati o meno…)

    Tirando le somme:
    Davvero un bel mezzo!
    Utile e pratica con i suoi vani e la comoda posizione di guida, quindi ottima per chi voglia muoversi in città (la definirei una Utilità-Bike), ma anche leggera e precisa per chi voglia divertirsi sul misto stretto di bei tornanti di montagna, ed in ultimo confortevole e valida anche per viaggiare! …Davvero una moto “da sposare!”
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    ....Bringing the Pegaso to the Concessionary...
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    See, I have no idea what Star-Trek is saying, but his bike (I'm assuming it is) is totally awesome. Amazing how beauty spans languages!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by knfusion24
    See, I have no idea what Star-Trek is saying, but his bike (I'm assuming it is) is totally awesome. Amazing how beauty spans languages!!!

    The bike isn't mine: I have an SL Falco! The Pegaso Strada was of the concessionary that let mi try the new bike's, when he have...

    I've tried SL Falco (before buying), RSV Mille '99, RSV Mille '03, RSV1000R '04, RSV1000 R Factory '05, Caponord, Futura, Pegaso Strada, and the Ducati Multistrada 620, the BMW K1200R...
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    Quote Originally Posted by knfusion24
    See, I have no idea what Star-Trek is saying, but his bike (I'm assuming it is) is totally awesome. Amazing how beauty spans languages!!!
    Especially if it's said in Italian!

    Although even Altavista Babelfish doesn't always get the finesse of the mothertongue of Aprilia:

    Quote Originally Posted by Star-Trek online translation
    Com' is: Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful! Sentimentale and tradizionalista as they are, become attached to the old line of the Pegaso, to the beginning I had storto po' a nose in seeing this new version: the Pegaso Road...... Then, seeing it the alive one I must say that instead me it is piaciuta very many: the great beacon that forms cupolino of the motion makes I to think next to the snout of a lion, the exhaust manifolds whom they pass polishes very and in sight on the right, and the circles in anodized aluminium blue confers them an aspect Racing extremely! A lot winning! The instrumentation is beautiful clear and complete with contagiri analogic and a wide digital screen them that it acts as from odometer and it supplies all the possible and imaginable information, being true and just a computer of edge managed from a comfortable one "mouse" placed on the notebook of the left grip handle! An other thing that me is piaciuta very many is the spaces: that one under the saddleback, gained in the space between the drainages, beautiful wide and however never too much warm, and especially that small on the tank, than (is only opened to key inserted from a button on the notebook of the left grip handle), covers the stopper tank and offers one small perfect space in order to put documents, papers, walletts and those to us cursed spiccioli that when you firm to a casello they force to you to undress to you half in order to pull them outside! Indeed one large found!

    2nd post:

    Wanting to be pignoli: Veniali sins! They could themselves be contested to the tubes brake in rubber, (even, seen the high level of the rifiniture, a pair of tubes in treccia could be granted), and the switches of the commandos "too much delicati2, (at least on the model who I have tried, the switches of beacons and arrows were therefore sensitive that with the gloves us did not become account if them it were itself sets in action to you or less...) Pulling the sums: Indeed a beautiful one half! Practical profit and with its spaces and the comfortable position of guide, therefore optimal for who wants to move in city (would define it Utilità-Bike), but also light and specifies for who wants to be amused on the tight compound of beautiful hairpin curves of comfortable and valid mountain, and in last also in order travelling! ... Indeed one motion "to marry!"
    At least I can figure out that by concessionary, Star-Trek means the dealer....

    By the way, Star-Trek: Welcome to the Falco crowd! Now here you have a beautiful bike with enough power for long trips!

    Where are you in Italy? Near Noale? Could you pay the Aprilia spare parts (ricambi) department a visit and kick their arses on my behalf for not sending the parts I ordered a month ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketing Dept.
    Thank You!

    The feedback from the Pegaso Survey was extremely valuable. While the final decision will be made in Italy, the feedback and the poll proved that this product has a place here.

    Because the Aprilia Forum responded the way it did, I believe the 650 Strada is heading our way in '06!

    A special thanks to AF1 as well - You guys rock.

    Hampton
    So, now that we are in September, is this a "go" for sure or have been saving my money for nothing?

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    Marketing Dept. -

    Very interested here.

    So, what's the deal with the 110 tire up front? Will a 120 fit? Sure would give more options (like some Pilot Powers).

    Also, any english road/test reviews out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketing Dept.
    Thank You!
    A special thanks to AF1 as well - You guys rock.
    Hampton
    So, are you one of the laid off Aprilia folks?

    Is the rest of the staff moving to NYC? Or California?
    JohnA in LA, CA USA

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