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    Front Brake Recall

    Looks like Piaggio has issued a front brake recall that includes 2013 and 2014 Manas.

    https://www.consumeraffairs.com/reca...ue-081419.html

    Owners may contact Piaggio customer service at (212) 380-4433. Piaggio's number for this recall is PA2ZZQ1904.
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    AF1 posted this up on their Facebook page. Does anybody know if it applies world wide or are US Mana brakes different to European spec?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrappl View Post
    Looks like Piaggio has issued a front brake recall that includes 2013 and 2014 Manas.

    https://www.consumeraffairs.com/reca...ue-081419.html

    Owners may contact Piaggio customer service at (212) 380-4433. Piaggio's number for this recall is PA2ZZQ1904.
    Thanks Chris we'll have to wait to see if we are affected in the UK

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    Oh man, thanks for posting!

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    Or you can fix the issue yourself in about 15 minutes if your bike is experiencing the problem, which if it was I would of thought anyone who owns one would of found out by now.

    Replacing the master cylinder means breaking in to the hydraulics. That means a complete brake bleed which on an ABS Mana is a king sized pain in the arse.

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    It should be possible to reverse bleed the front brakes via the bleed nipple on the master cylinder. Then you won’t push any air into the ABS pump.
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    But it's only the adjustment of the actuating plunger that is wrong. It doesn't justify replacing the whole wretched master cylinder! That way lies madness!
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    So this problem only applies for those Mana's built between 2013 and 2014 or does it cover all Mana's??? As mine is a 2012 GT ABS model

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    I received my recall notice today.19V-561.PDF
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    Wow, that's not good. I know I haven't had any issues (so far) with my 2013 Mana GT, have any of you experience something like this?

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    The recall notice states that the front brake master cylinder may not have sufficient ineffective lever stroke.

    Aprilia expects us to make an appointment for an inspection first.

    If the master cylinder requires replacement, the dealer must submit a claim to obtain a new master cylinder.

    We would then need to make another appointment once the part(s) arrive.

    My closest dealer is 3+ hours away (one-way), so Iím looking at the possibility of two full days of riding and shop time for this recall.

    The master cylinder must be ordered by VIN.

    Unlike other manufacturers, Aprilia will not allow a dealer to stock or use parts from stock for this recall.

    My understanding (YMMV) is that the inspection consists of checking the gap between the lever and the master cylinder piston.

    They are looking for a .2mm gap (again, just my understanding).

    My brakes have never given me any cause for concern and there is plenty of lever travel before the front brake starts engaging.

    However, there appears to be no gap between the lever and the piston.

    I tried my thinnest feeler gauge (.076mm) and could not place it between the lever and the piston.

    The end of the lever appears to have a roller, but on further inspection I believe that it is a stationary concentric cam that should allow an adjustment to the gap.

    I would like to confirm this with Pete before trying to adjust the gap.

    Again, this is just my understanding of this situation and I am open to suggestions and corrections.
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    Actually I think the Mana is slightly different to most of the other bikes. If it doesn't use a 'Barrel and plunger' arrangement it probably can't be adjusted.

    Can you post up a pic of the lever where it meets the piston?
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    Here is a shot of the cam? at the end of the lever in contact with the piston.
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    Yup. That makes things different. Actually I have an Audace in at the moment and it too has that sort of cam-wheel arrangement. I was assuming these all used the adjustable plunger. My bad. With these I can see why they are swapping out the Master Cylinders.
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    Chisrapple,
    I haven't received a recall on my 2013 yet and like you have not had any abnormal brake conditions. I'm presently traveling, I'll look at what I have for clearance this weekend.
    My dealer is not far from me, I'll pop in next week and see what they have to say, it might save you along ride for nothing.

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