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    Pegaso Trail Rear Shock

    Have been reading several posts on the Trail Rear shock but still haven't found
    something related to my issue.

    I am rather large 1.93, 115Kg and riding with passenger on I noticed the rear
    shock is having trouble coping and reached limits. Adjusted the spring to the
    limit and got improved but still not happy. I am never happy when springs are
    preloaded, the springs should be replaced with proper weight ratio and allow bike
    to have shame shag, otherwise you have a horrible setup.

    At this point I am considering taking the suspension for a service and swapping the
    spring to handle my weight requirements.

    In Greece this should be around 200euro cost, which I reckon is worth.

    Has anybody tried to rebuild and/or change spring spec?

    Will try few more scenarios with the two adjusting options available.

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    if you don't do often off-road, then one possible solution is to mount the rear shock absorber of a Tuono R 2005 +
    I've done it on my Strada 'cause the orig. setting was too soft.
    The shock absorber is longer as the trail one (320 against 315 mm),
    harder in dumping and with a harder spring 'blessed'
    ... by mine solo 84 kg it is too hard for off-road, but you says you're heavier and in double pack ...
    and is relatively cheap ... cheap enough to give him a chance IMHO:
    - https://www.ebay.de/itm/Federbein-St...oAAOSwseFcJoAE
    - https://www.ebay.de/itm/Federbein-St...MAAOSwo61cepcE
    and so on.

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    Noted with thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by fedro69 View Post
    if you don't do often off-road, then one possible solution is to mount the rear shock absorber of a Tuono R 2005 +
    I've done it on my Strada 'cause the orig. setting was too soft.
    The shock absorber is longer as the trail one (320 against 315 mm),
    harder in dumping and with a harder spring 'blessed'
    ... by mine solo 84 kg it is too hard for off-road, but you says you're heavier and in double pack ...
    and is relatively cheap ... cheap enough to give him a chance IMHO:
    - https://www.ebay.de/itm/Federbein-St...oAAOSwseFcJoAE
    - https://www.ebay.de/itm/Federbein-St...MAAOSwo61cepcE
    and so on.
    Actually have one tuono shock at home from my 07' tuono which is almost same length with former model.

    Thanks for the tip. Presume I should let the spring loose as much as possible.

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    The Ohlins one won't fit,
    'cause the airtank on the side which is going to collide with the pipes
    (and the airbox won't let setting) ... just tried this, sadly
    But the normal one is practically 'plug & play', you'll need just a few washer on the upper side,
    and you can preload the spring normally

    If You'll goin' these way, let us know how it works off the roads, please.

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    I think, that progressive spring and thicker shock oil could be the solution.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hyperpro-Pr...edirect=mobile

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedro69 View Post
    The Ohlins one won't fit,
    'cause the airtank on the side which is going to collide with the pipes
    (and the airbox won't let setting) ... just tried this, sadly
    But the normal one is practically 'plug & play', you'll need just a few washer on the upper side,
    and you can preload the spring normally

    If You'll goin' these way, let us know how it works off the roads, please.

    My link bearings are in need for replacement, just wanted to
    apply some grease and check condition and they fell apart.

    Funny think my local dealer thought they are just fine and
    should put them back together, should never have removed the
    center cylinder piece and allow them to fall apart. Found his
    reaction odd.

    Same discussion with my local bearings expert he loughed and
    assured me that the bearings are wasted and I should not try
    to put everything back together as is. Will buy bearings and seals
    tomorow and currently trying to work out the distance pieces for matching
    the Tuono 07' suspension. Once I have results will get back to you on
    the conclusions.

    Cheers!





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    Yep!
    the bearings down there are ever good for a surprise!

    I'm waitin', thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedro69 View Post
    Yep!
    the bearings down there are ever good for a surprise!

    I'm waitin', thanks!
    The shock is in place, no trouble whatsoever, even though it is a two man job and there
    was a point I got in trouble... this is an awesome upgrade. The bike gained some height in
    the back (which is a good thing for me). Loaded a bot the spring, which means that there is plenty of room
    for someone not my size and weight to set up the tuono shock much much softer.

    When I removed this shock from my Tuono I thought it was crap shock with very little
    adjustments. Installed the ohlins and made the bike very very sporty.

    If the crap tuono shock transforms the pegaso that much, I wonder how should
    I describe the original Pegaso shock...

    To my understanding this recipe (due to shock length) is only applicable for
    Pegaso Trail, still I strongly suggest this upgrade.
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    I'm glad could help!
    Let us know how it works offroad:
    is my only doubt,
    why on road I have tested it almost 3 Years yet on my Strada

    Quote Originally Posted by Falco_1000 View Post
    ... If the crap tuono shock transforms the pegaso that much, I wonder how should
    I describe the original Pegaso shock... ...
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    So my presumption is wrong the the tuono shock can be installed on Strada as well?

    Thought the Trail had longer shock than the strada did. And the tuono shock made the trail
    tail raise a bit. You loose all this sinking you get with original shock, when it is being un-parked
    from the side stand.

    Off road is not my thing, especially with the Pegaso, used to ride a KX250 Kawa few year back and
    I would not dare to enter dirt with the Pegaso, I feel sorry for it.

    Wanted to mention also that installed a chain auto lub Scottoiler on the Peg and is also
    an addition I would strongly suggest. The chain looks lovely clean and oily without
    the use of those sticky was type chain lubricants. Have been told that this
    system doubles chain life expectancy.
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    IT works fine on the Strada ... and on the Factory too!
    Strada and Trail haves different leverage but same problems on asphalt,
    so that the tuono rearshock raises the Strada tail too (roundabout 3 cm) and gives the other same benefits
    I've tried with the rearshock from a Futura 1000, 'cause the hydraulic preload adjuster, but it won't fit,
    with the rearshock from a Falco, but i've missed the higher tail
    next steps:
    - the hydraulic preload adjuster for the Falco on the Tuono rearshock
    - the hydraulic preload adjuster for the Caponord 1000 on the Futura rearshock
    but I'll need a fixplate to screw the adjuster an riconditioning the Capo-Adjuster first
    ...
    long, dark winters in Hamburg!

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