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    Aprilia Scarabeo 200 2004 Piaggio engine (E2)

    Hi i have a problem with my Aprilia Scaraboe 200 Piaagio E2 engine
    The Bike runs for about 20 mins then it dies i wait about 20 mins then the bike starts again
    I have replaced the Battery changed all Fuses the Regulator and the CDI unit ,tested the Coil (OK) also tested the Stator and it is working corectly
    IT seems to drop from 12 Volts just before it enters the coil once bike is cold it stays steady for 20 mins then it slowly drains 12 11 10 8 6 5 till not enough to run the bike
    ANy Help would be greatly appriciated as this is Fantastic Scooter
    Mike F

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    Many times it will be the ignition trigger that gets a short once it warms up however I am not sure if a short in the trigger would drop voltage at the positive lead to the coil. Does it at times sputter like its starved for fuel just before it dies? That's one of the symptoms you can get when the trigger is failing. Hard part chasing some of these issues down is that until if fails completely it will cool down enough to test normal by the time you get a meter on it.

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    HI Rocky, No it doesnt Splutter it just stops the engine is getting Fuel i have checked, when you say Starter trigger are you talking about the Starter Relay ? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikefoe View Post
    HI Rocky, No it doesnt Splutter it just stops the engine is getting Fuel i have checked, when you say Starter trigger are you talking about the Starter Relay ? Thanks
    No the second magnetic pickup next to the stator that triggers the ignition. CDI/ECU wont fire the coil without a good strong pulse from the trigger. Depending on which stage of failure they are at you can many times get a false fuel starvation symptom. They are small enough that by the time you check them with a meter they have cooled off enough to give acceptable readings which can drag on for months until they finally fail 100%.

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    Hi Rocky Now i am a bit lost are you talking about inside the stator assembly or the secondary wires that go the the Carb to the automatic starter i have attached a couple of pic ? Thanks Click image for larger version. 

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    Sorry i get it now the pickup coil that sits over the FLywheel ?

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    Bottom right hand corner of group 7 in the first picture.

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    Any update on this guys?
    Sounds like the problem I am having with my Sportcity 200 at the moment.
    1986 Honda NS400R (Sold because I was stupid back then.)
    2000 Aprilia Falco (Sold because I was still stupid.)
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    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (My wife's first bike now sold.)
    2008 Gilera Nexus 500ie (Colt Converted) (Sold because my wife would not ride with me while she was on a bike and I was on a scooter, but deeply missed.)
    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 1000
    2013 Kawasaki Ninja 650 (My wife's bike.)

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    I have finally got the scooter running again.
    The fault turned out to be in the pickup coil as Rocky suggested.
    This also fixed a hard to start when warm issue I’ve had for a while.
    The part was not available in Australia or from our host (as this scooter did not sell in America.)
    I managed to find the part from an American company called Electrosport for a very good price.
    Thanks to all.
    1986 Honda NS400R (Sold because I was stupid back then.)
    2000 Aprilia Falco (Sold because I was still stupid.)
    2006 Aprilia Sportcity 200
    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (My wife's first bike now sold.)
    2008 Gilera Nexus 500ie (Colt Converted) (Sold because my wife would not ride with me while she was on a bike and I was on a scooter, but deeply missed.)
    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 1000
    2013 Kawasaki Ninja 650 (My wife's bike.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob in Sydney View Post
    I have finally got the scooter running again.
    The fault turned out to be in the pickup coil as Rocky suggested.
    This also fixed a hard to start when warm issue I’ve had for a while.
    The part was not available in Australia or from our host (as this scooter did not sell in America.)
    I managed to find the part from an American company called Electrosport for a very good price.
    Thanks to all.
    Glad you found it. Many go chasing many dead ends as it mimics so many other issues with the bike when the pickup starts to fail. Parts replacer type mechanics will many times sell you a new carb/throttle body and then ecu putting you through a financial wringer before considering the pickup. Good you were able to get one without having to purchase an entire stator assembly.

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    I did have to buy the whole stator assembly as in the diagram above but it was only $99.00 complete. It did cost $56.00 to post it to Australia but still not bad.
    I found it hard to diagnose as it ran fine when cold. I had already tried the ignition coil and ignition CDI box as they were cheap and easy to buy and install. I’ll keep them as spares.
    I’m just happy to have the scooter running again.
    1986 Honda NS400R (Sold because I was stupid back then.)
    2000 Aprilia Falco (Sold because I was still stupid.)
    2006 Aprilia Sportcity 200
    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (My wife's first bike now sold.)
    2008 Gilera Nexus 500ie (Colt Converted) (Sold because my wife would not ride with me while she was on a bike and I was on a scooter, but deeply missed.)
    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 1000
    2013 Kawasaki Ninja 650 (My wife's bike.)

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    Too bad you had to buy the whole assembly as the pickup by itself is just about a $10/$20 item when you can find it. They get fractures in the epoxy which open when they get hot causing them to fault however by the time you get a meter on them they have usually cooled enough to read good. Sometimes when you have the fairings off the airflow increases enough that they won't fault even after sitting idling for and hour or so. On my old bike it was months before it failed far enough to become obvious. At the end of the last summer I had it I thought some other repair had corrected the issue however it was just the cooler weather making it so it did not get hot enough to fail until winter was over and it started to warm up in the spring. On that bike the trigger was less than $10 however cost me hundreds in lost time, frustration and false diagnosis prior to that.

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    The current part number for this part is 58141R.
    1986 Honda NS400R (Sold because I was stupid back then.)
    2000 Aprilia Falco (Sold because I was still stupid.)
    2006 Aprilia Sportcity 200
    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (My wife's first bike now sold.)
    2008 Gilera Nexus 500ie (Colt Converted) (Sold because my wife would not ride with me while she was on a bike and I was on a scooter, but deeply missed.)
    2012 Kawasaki Ninja 1000
    2013 Kawasaki Ninja 650 (My wife's bike.)

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