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    And guess what news just came in...
    There's a brand new ZX-10R coming next year.

    http://www.speedweek.com/sbk/news/77...ue-ZX-10R.html

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    They pretty much had to. The RBW exception that Kawi, Honda and Szuki are using expires after next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakazulu12 View Post
    The other manufactures actually had custom gearboxes made all the time. Nova provided tons for BSB, IOMTT use. I would imagine it was more of a cost cutting issue than anything. I do seem to recall seeing part numbers for different Aprilia gears at one point, but remember thinking they were crazy expensive.
    If you don't have a cassette gearbox, and you have 8 or 9 sealed engines like they did in 2014, you can't split the cases and select gearing for each track. Before the sealed engines went into effect, yes you could split the cases to change gearing or run a different engine entirely for each track. So the one gearbox rule specifically hurt Aprilia after they went to the sealed engines.
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    Easy, just swap the engines around with various gearbox combos and pray you don't blow one that's got a crucial setup in it. Not ideal, but if you saw the charts for use where some engines were going back in and out of the bikes it would make sense as a workaround. To be fair, the Kawi and Suzuki also have cassette style gearboxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakazulu12 View Post
    ...the Kawi and Suzuki also have cassette style gearboxes.
    and Ducati and I think Honda. Who gets the advantage from fixing the gear ratios? BMW?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in OKC View Post
    and Ducati and I think Honda. Who gets the advantage from fixing the gear ratios? BMW?
    Only Aprilia and Kawasaki have cassette gear boxes, that you can remove without splitting the engine case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TR-V4 View Post
    Like my comment previously in this thread, nobody can ride that CBR like Rea did and he never had a teammate who challenged him (that would include Haslam) so IMO it's the rider. The best rider is the one who adapts quickly to the bike and can find the best setup to fully utilize its potential even if the bike itself is a piece of junk. Rea is that type of rider while Melandri is the opposite




    Aprilia isn't doing well in MotoGP because they haven't got their prototype bike yet. The bike they have now is basically the modified ART bike which is based on the RSV4. I heard they already have a new engine on the dyno and will probably be ready to go in the next couple of weeks time.

    Riding the most uncompetitive bike and still managed to reach 10th place is encouraging IMO. Bautista just got better every race even though he still didn't like the bike in general. I think Aprilia should hire Rea or Rins to ride their MotoGP bike next year if Melandri still doesn't perform well at the end of the season.

    Btw Suzuki won't release the new gixxer until mid 2017 so we'll only see Yamaha factory support next year




    Honda doesn't care about their sportbike line up, their most generated revenue come from selling scooters in Asia. Honda and Yamaha sold around 500 units combined every day in Indonesia alone (their biggest market). They use the money to fuel their MotoGP race, the more they win the more people will buy their scooters. Nobody really watch WSBK in Asia, much less riding its sportbikes so the competition is irrelevant to them.

    On the other hand, the rest of the manufacturers rely heavily on their bigger bikes sales including Suzuki and Kawi but the scooters are the one that bring in the big bucks. Also the RC213V is a V4 engine bike so we won't see their MotoGP tech trickle down to CBR anytime soon
    There are plenty of things that can trickle down on the electronics side, RBW, TCS, launch control, wheelie control, active suspension. Chassis developments won't trickle down exactly due to the different engine configs but the CBR chassis hasn't really been lacking anyway. But if they did what many many many people want and replace the CBR 1000 with a new 1000cc V four superbike then there can be more direct benefits from the GP program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPEEDxNASTY View Post
    And guess what news just came in...
    There's a brand new ZX-10R coming next year.

    http://www.speedweek.com/sbk/news/77...ue-ZX-10R.html
    Maybe it will be a step backward like Honda's 2015 Motogp bike? I think there's a lot of by guess and by golly in race bike development. Look how long Ducati was in the wilderness before they stole Gigi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diablo1 View Post
    Only Aprilia and Kawasaki have cassette gear boxes, that you can remove without splitting the engine case.
    So the rule change doesn't help Kawasaki either???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ape66 View Post
    So the rule change doesn't help Kawasaki either???
    That's correct, the one gearbox rule hurts Kawasaki and Aprilia, to the benefit of the other manufacturers.
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    Doesn't really seem to have hurt them so far. The only manufacturers doing noticeably better are Ducati and BMW. Honda and Suzuki especially are well into the weeds.
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    From what Kawasaki team boss said, next year's bike will be more an evolution (to fit very closely to the WSBK rules) than a revolution.

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    this looks like his having fun, is that his race bike? meant to say he runs the normal shift, as you should , nice front wheel lofty off the corner,
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    Quote Originally Posted by flossy View Post
    this looks like his having fun, is that his race bike? meant to say he runs the normal shift, as you should , nice front wheel lofty off the corner,
    now here is how it is meant to be, top 10 all within 1/2 sec and smoking,

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