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    Lightbulb Honda CBR600RR Mosfet Rectifier Mod

    My First Post here, Hi All Folks !!

    Finally did my rectifier mod. This time not with an Goldwing rectifier but I
    used an Honda CBR 600/1000RR Mosfet rectifier (MY 2007- and on)
    bought it from a breaker on Ebay. Price € 60 + € 15 shipping (may 2010)
    Now (2012) the prices are risen, breakers do know the demand

    Same manufacturer as the original and 90% of most bikes: Shindengen model FH008 , ( 35 A ) FHxxxx stands for Mosfet.
    Instead of SHxxxx old technology, which dispose a lot heat.
    Size of it is exact the same as the original and it fits perfect. Looks are far better than the old one.





    connectors are from (GM) Delphi metri-pack 280 (waterproof) and rated at max. 30A. (note wrapped one side with tape to prevent it from scratching my frame.)

    Left the white connector unused < In my case cutted it and shrinktubed (glue) it.
    additional Auxiliary can be connected here, as its a switched wire.







    results:
    Headlights OFF
    original rectifier , 13.6 Volt @ idle
    Mosfet rectifier, 14,33 @ idle = original (thin) wiring harness.
    14.45 @ idle = Eastern Beavern/ Metripack connectors wiring direct to the Battery



    With headlights on @ idle:


    voltage at 4000rpm.


    update: 4-2011
    Wired the FH008 directly to the battery with thicker AWG 12 / 2,05mm/ 3,31mm2 wires & metripack 630/280 connectors .

    idle with headlights off:



    Youtube Measurements Movie:


    some Diagrams:





    update # 12 May 2011:

    Current routing diagram Old Original:

    Current routing diagram if wired directly to battery with optional Metri-pack connectors:


    Heat problem? :
    the original you would burn your fingers by touching it.
    this one, Does even build HEAT, nice warm but burning.... now way
    Last edited by Stanleybobly; 03-07-2012 at 07:45 PM. Reason: updates

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    Nice mod... how many wires does this use? Same as Capo or same as goldwing?

    vivo

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    Well done!
    An italian friend installed the Shindengen mosfet regulator model FH012AA (50A!) and he is actually happy with it.
    Problem is it doesn't fit right cause it's bigger, so he had to cut the side panel.....
    I think I will follow you on this mod!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivo View Post
    Nice mod... how many wires does this use? Same as Capo or same as goldwing?
    vivo
    Used the same wiring from the Capo,
    3 from the alternator,
    4 to the battery threw the originale wiringharnass (2+, 2-) wrapped it together in to 2 wires.

    Maybe in the future, I'll swap the skinny wires in to thick ones.

    the Fh012 is way to big, to fit indeed.

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    Neat looking job. Hope your new connectors last longer than my PosiLocks did. Interesting to see the voltage drop nearly half a volt with the headlight on. I guess this is due to the lack of voltage sensing wire.
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    Metri-pack 280 connectors are rated max 30A current stream. after that the fusebox with an 30A fuse wil kick in.
    posi-lock ain't made to overtake such a current.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanleybobly View Post
    ...posi-lock ain't made to overtake such a current...
    Can't argue with that!
    Steve
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    Sellers on Ebay are awakening :
    Sale:

    Genuine Regulator / Rectifier for CBR600RR 07- 09 Models

    Excellent undamaged working condition

    Ideal for replacement / race spares / special project

    CODE IS FH008EE - Regulary used as a replacement for SVs, Aprilias etc
    so grab yourself one, before the prices sky rocks it.
    bought mine at € 60 used.
    Ebay link

    I've been lazy lately, will be posting a nice pic of my Voltage at 4000rpm
    still going strong with the mod, bike starts far better than before.
    Last edited by Stanleybobly; 07-04-2010 at 02:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanleybobly View Post
    My First Post here, Hi All Folks !!
    And quite a good post at that. If I'd known about these mosfet units back around '04 when I installed the Gold Wing unit, I'd have chosen this way instead.
    Much less heat, and more efficient. And I really like those connectors!

    Stu

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    Hi moto-abruzzo,

    This looks a very promising & professional installation ,

    My Honda Goldwing rectifier still runs too hot for my liking, although touch wood I've had no more issues, this coming winter, as well as doing the big 30K service, including removing the front Brown connector, I to want to look at making the rectifier run cooler, your idea looks good.

    The plate that you are mounting the rectifier on (Aluminium) will act as an added heat sink & provide protection of the rear coils from the elements underneath.

    Mounting the PC type fan is a good idea as well, I presume it will draw the hot air out from under the seat and not force cool air in, as the former would be more efficient, especially in warmer climates.

    A very well thought out idea......good work .
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    Lightbulb

    Quote Originally Posted by Stu_O View Post
    And quite a good post at that. If I'd known about these mosfet units back around '04 when I installed the Gold Wing unit, I'd have chosen this way instead.
    Much less heat, and more efficient. And I really like those connectors!

    Stu
    Thanks, those mosfet unit are recently installed OEM on new bikes since 2007.
    so back in 2004 they didn't exist.

    @moto-abruzzo
    Nice CAD Drawing.
    about the fan there is no need for that. Your bike gets its airflow well enough too cool your FH012, Consider this Mosfet units don't get warm as it used to be

    And about those plate acting as heatsink, no need for that, It won't be building that much heat. the FH008 has already got an alu plate behind it. Yesterday drove on the heat here , touch the unit and still didn't burn my fingers. Airflow on the side fairing does is job.....
    Last edited by Stanleybobly; 07-04-2010 at 02:46 AM.

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    Just a question... and please forgive me if it is a stupid one but my knowledge of electricity is very poor :-/
    The 2007 Honda CBR1000RR, from which Stanleybobly took the FH008EE regulator, has a 350w generator while the capo mounts a 470w unit.
    Could this mean that the FH008EE may be undersized for the capo?
    I like discussing various issues with other owners of obscure European bikes (cit.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucaliffo View Post
    Just a question... and please forgive me if it is a stupid one but my knowledge of electricity is very poor :-/
    The 2007 Honda CBR1000RR, from which Stanleybobly took the FH008EE regulator, has a 350w generator while the capo mounts a 470w unit.
    Could this mean that the FH008EE may be undersized for the capo?
    Honda installed 350-watt AC generator on their bikes, our Capo's has 470 W generator.
    the rectifier converts incoming AC in to DC (12V)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanleybobly View Post
    Honda installed 350-watt AC generator on their bikes, our Capo's has 470 W generator.
    the rectifier converts incoming AC in to DC (12V)
    So this means I can buy that regulator for 50€ from ebay with no concerns?
    Thank you man
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    Yes man...............
    No Problemo Amico

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