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    Big thanks to Motech, stopped by my local Autozone, picked up a relay, had it installed and working in less than an hour. Cost was $11.99 plus tax.....My stock relay was still in pretty good shape as I didn't notice a huge diference in cranking speed, but with 44K miles on the clock, and trip to Salt Lake upcoming, I don't have to worry about getting stranded by the stock unit's expected failure. Nice work Motech.

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    Hey Motech, please check your PM's

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbluemm View Post
    Big thanks to Motech, stopped by my local Autozone, picked up a relay, had it installed and working in less than an hour. Cost was $11.99 plus tax.....My stock relay was still in pretty good shape as I didn't notice a huge diference in cranking speed, but with 44K miles on the clock, and trip to Salt Lake upcoming, I don't have to worry about getting stranded by the stock unit's expected failure. Nice work Motech.
    Thanks Bbluemm.

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    Hey Motech, please check your PM's
    Checked and replied.

    Please note new post below.
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    UPDATE: Airtex Relay Failure

    Important Note:

    I had a problem with the cheap Chinese Airtex brand I originally installed. It stuck closed once and caused the starter to continue cranking after the engine started. I replaced it with a relay from the Ford dealer, Ford part number E9TZ-11450-5 I highly recommend installing the Ford part in place of any cheap Asian part from the chain stores to avoid the problem I encountered.

    Also note this Ford unit has no "I" terminal, so installation will be even simpler.
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    Now that is weird. How did you know the starter was still spinning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzmille View Post
    Now that is weird. How did you know the starter was still spinning?
    Stalled it on a second gear takeoff from a light, restarted while still rolling and took off all embarrassed. I noticed volt meter stuck low around 11 volts, heard a whining when I stopped at the next light. When I turned off key, starter was cranking engine. Fock! Had to pull into a parking lot, remove seat and whack relay with Leatherman to stop it. (disconnecting primary connector did not stop it, that's how I know it was a defective relay) Cranked for well over two minutes before I got it to quit.

    On the bright side, it validated the deep reserve cranking amps of my 4-year old Interstate battery.
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    One of those instances where it would be nice to have a master battery switch between the relay and the starter. if this ever happens again I think it would probably be better to leave the engine running until you had the seat off and were ready to disconnect the cable. You definitely want to turn it off before disconnecting though as you can damage the electrical system if you disconnect with the engine running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzmille View Post
    One of those instances where it would be nice to have a master battery switch between the relay and the starter. if this ever happens again I think it would probably be better to leave the engine running until you had the seat off and were ready to disconnect the cable. You definitely want to turn it off before disconnecting though as you can damage the electrical system if you disconnect with the engine running.
    It did happen one more time before I replaced it. This time, thumbing the starter button made it quit.

    Why didn't I try that the first time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motech View Post
    It did happen one more time before I replaced it. This time, thumbing the starter button made it quit.

    Why didn't I try that the first time?
    Could you have a bad starter button.
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    Hmm, will the key pull out in the on position? Kinda need it to get under the seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodman View Post
    Could you have a bad starter button.
    No, disconnecting the relay primary plug would have stopped the starter if that were the case.

    I just got silly and installed a cut-rate relay. To make matters worse, I documented it in public too. Never again will I use that brand for anything.
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    Thanks for posting this. I am going to install a ford solenoid so now I will make sure it is really Ford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodman View Post
    Thanks for posting this. I am going to install a ford solenoid so now I will make sure it is really Ford.
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