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    Exclamation Warning light/oil can, on a 07 uk Tuono

    Riding home my WARNING LIGHT came on with the OIL CAN icon showing as the fault. I was in sight of home so free wheeled it the rest of the way.

    After looking at the bike:-

    1) no oil leaks and correct oil level. ( had an 02 millie so know about the oil level)
    2) no oil in the air box.
    3) left the bike over night, started it up and the warning light and oil can icon came on straight away.

    Are there any other checks I can carry out before I go and see the dealer.

    Where is the oil pressure switch?.
    Where is the oil level switch?.
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    Oil PSI switch is on the right side, down low facing frontways. I bet the connector just came loose.

    I don't know of a level switch. At least on the Fut.
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    Thanks Fox Fader. I've stubbled across the oil pressure switch, the wire is still attached. Measured it with the engine NOT running 0.0 ohms, measured with engine running 0.0 ohms.

    Hope its the switch thats broken, and not the bike (oil pump).

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    With the engine running you should get ∞.

    Since you don't and the bike still runs, it must be a bad sensor and not oil pump.
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    Well its in the dealers today. and should get an answer by tomorrow lunch time.

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    Its bad news


    The oil pressure sensor was broken, but the oil pump was also running at a low pressure. So the dealer has taken the bike to bits to get at the oil pump. Its not sounding good for me. Its still under warrenty, but its always that sinking feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bars View Post
    Its bad news


    The oil pressure sensor was broken, but the oil pump was also running at a low pressure. So the dealer has taken the bike to bits to get at the oil pump. Its not sounding good for me. Its still under warrenty, but its always that sinking feeling.
    This makes about as much sense to me as replacing a tire after finding the gauge used to check the pressure was defective. My hunch is your dealer has torn your engine down for no good reason. What are the chances that both the pressure switch and the oil pump have gone tits up at the same time? If the oil switch was found to be faulty, replace it. If the light then stays out, the pressure is sufficient - regardless of what your dealer may think. According to the engine manual, the pressure is supposed to be 72.5 psi (5 bar) at 6000 rpm. But I'd bet it's normal to be only 20 to 25 psi at idle. And that's likely the engine speed at which he checked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu_O View Post
    This makes about as much sense to me as replacing a tire after finding the gauge used to check the pressure was defective. My hunch is your dealer has torn your engine down for no good reason. What are the chances that both the pressure switch and the oil pump have gone tits up at the same time?Stu

    Yeah my thoughts exacually

    Quote Originally Posted by Stu_O View Post
    If the oil switch was found to be faulty, replace it. If the light then stays out, the pressure is sufficient - regardless of what your dealer may think. According to the engine manual, the pressure is supposed to be 72.5 psi (5 bar) at 6000 rpm. But I'd bet it's normal to be only 20 to 25 psi at idle. And that's likely the engine speed at which he checked it.

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    Agggggggghhhhhh it so annoying when its someone else working on your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bars View Post
    Agggggggghhhhhh it so annoying when its someone else working on your bike.
    Well, now's a hell of a time for me to mention the painfully obvious. But you'd probably have solved your own problems quickly and easily by simply buying a new pressure switch and screwing it in. If the oil light still wouldn't go out, then and only then would I have even considered letting them lay hands on the bike.

    One question - have you actually seen the bike torn down? Not making accusations toward your dealer, but there are some unscrupulous dealers who would keep the bike for an appropriate period of time, then submit a warranty reimbursement claim for work not actually performed. I'm just saying...

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    Well heres the update.


    The dealer has phoned and my bike is ready for collection. They have fitted a new oil pump, and all seem's fine. just need to get there and pick her up.

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    This sounds like BS to me, but it's all done now.

    It would have been too easy to pull the psi switch and manually check the oil psi, THEN if it checked low go further. Stuff like this urks me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Fader View Post
    This sounds like BS to me, but it's all done now.

    It would have been too easy to pull the psi switch and manually check the oil psi, THEN if it checked low go further. Stuff like this urks me.
    Yeah it would have been, but I don't have an oil pressure tester piece of kit. I'm going to check around the socket heads to see if they have been touched. But as long as the "warning triangle - oil can icon" stay off I'm going to be happy. I've only been without it for 10 days or so so result for me, warranty claim for Aprilia??.

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    I know in the car business bogus warranty claims aren't worth it cause the shop dosen't get credit for the full time aloted for the repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Fader View Post
    I know in the car business bogus warranty claims aren't worth it cause the shop dosen't get credit for the full time aloted for the repair.
    That's why real warranty claims aren't worth it. Bogus warranty claims are pure profit...unless you get caught. Then it's not worth it.


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    In the car business you have to send in the part warrantied so bogus claims are almost non existant.

    And real claims are worth it because the more that are done correctly the first time, the more chances it is that the dealer gets perfect customers scores leading to more money for the dealership at the end of the month, quarter and year... Trips and gifts given to Service MGR too.
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