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    Exhaust Pipes Comparison Thread! Let's put all of them. :D

    As done with the heads with inserts, let's do the same with the pipes:

    Arrow




    Price (AF1) ---------------> 358 £ = 477 € = 700 $ = 751 AUD
    Price (RRP) ex VAT (20%) -> 390 £ = 517 € = 770 $ = 827 AUD
    Price (TTW)(inc VAT) -----> 499 £ = 663 € = 983 $ = 1.055 AUD
    Price (TTW)(ex VAT) ------> 425 £ = 564 € = 836 $ = 897 AUD

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Kevlar Fiber Mufflers
    http://www.arrow.it/
    http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scrip...idproduct=1405
    http://www.redracingparts.com/
    http://www.thetuningworks.com

    DEP


    Price:

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers black painted, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    http://www.deppipes.com/depmain.htm

    Giannelli


    Price:

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Kevlar Fiber Mufflers
    http://www.giannelli.com

    Jim Lomas

    GP Style, Stainless Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153



    GP Style, Stainless Steel, Stainless Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152


    Side by Side, Stainless Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA157SS /(RGV) CS153SS



    Side by Side, Stainless Steel, Stainless Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA156SS /(RGV) CS152SS


    GP Style Raised, Stainless Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA157hi /(RGV) CS153hi





    Price (50cc.nl), inc Tax:

    Part no: (RS) 16271 / (RGV) 16281
    (GP Style, SS Chambers, CF Mufflers) --> 710 £= 930 €= 1.412 $= 1.516 AUD

    Part no: (RS)16270 / (RGV) 16280
    (GP Style, SS Chambers, SS Mufflers) --> 627 £= 820 €= 1.245 $= 1.336 AUD

    Price (RG500.com):

    (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153 (GP Style, SS, CF Mufflers) ---> 510 £= 674 €= 1.000 $= 1.074 AUD
    (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152 (GP Style, SS, SS Mufflers) ---> 470 £= 624 €= 925 $= 993 AUD
    (RS) CA157SS /(RGV) CS153SS (S by S, SS, CF Muf) -> 510 £= 674 €= 1.000 $= 1.074 AUD
    (RS) CA156SS /(RGV) CS152SS (S by S, SS, SS Muf) -> 470 £= 624 €= 925 $= 993 AUD
    (RS) CA155 /(RGV) CS151 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers) -> 447 £= 593 €= 880 $= 945 AUD
    (RS) CA154 /(RGV) CS150 (GP Style, MS, SS Mufflers) -> 408 £= 541 €= 803 $= 862 AUD
    (RS) CA155SS /(RGV) CS151SS (S by S, MS, CF Muf) --> 447 £= 593 €= 880 $= 945 AUD
    (RS) CA154SS /(RGV) CS150SS (S by S, MS, SS Muf) --> 408 £= 541 €= 803 $=862 AUD

    Price (Solo2Tempi)**:

    (RS) CA154 /(RGV) CS150 (GP Style, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA154SbS /(RGV) CS150SbS (Side by Side, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA154hi /(RGV) CS150hi (GP Style Raised, MS, SS Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 375 £= 490 €= 745 $= 800 AUD

    (RS) CA155 /(RGV) CS151 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA155SbS /(RGV) CS151SbS (Side by Side, MS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA155hi /(RGV) CS151hi (GP Style Raised, MS, CF Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 410 £= 535 €= 812 $= 872 AUD

    (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152 (GP Style, SS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA156SbS /(RGV) CS152SbS (Side by Side, SS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA156hi /(RGV) CS152hi (GP Style Raised, SS, SS Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 440 £= 575 €= 873 $= 937 AUD

    (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153 (GP Style, SS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA157SbS /(RGV) CS153SbS (Side by Side, SS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA157hi /(RGV) CS153hi (GP Style Raised, SS, CF Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 480 £= 635 €= 945 $= 1.035 AUD

    **S2T have the the price of 447 £= 585 €= 888 $= 955 AUD for all the models in pipes section, but checking the price list just below their pics, shows the ones described here.

    Price (TheTuningWorks)*:

    (RS) CA155 /(RGV) CS151 (GP Style, MS, CF(currently Kevlar) Mufflers)
    (RS) CA155SS /(RGV) CS151SS (Side by Side, MS, CF(currently Kevlar) Muf)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 400 £= 525 €= 795 $= 853 AUD
    (ex VAT) ----------------> 340 £= 445 €= 676 $= 725 AUD

    (RS) CA154 /(RGV) CS150 (GP Style, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA154SS /(RGV) CS150SS (Side by Side, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 340 £= 445 €= 676 $= 725 AUD
    (ex VAT) ----------------> 290 £= 380 €= 576 $= 620 AUD

    (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153 (GP Style, SS, CF (currently Kevlar) Mufflers)
    (RS) CA157SS /(RGV) CS153SS (Side by Side, SS, CF (currently Kevlar) Muf)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 536 £= 700 €= 1.065 $= 1.143 AUD
    (ex VAT) ----------------> 456 £= 597 €= 906 $= 973 AUD

    (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152 (GP Style, SS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA156SS /(RGV) CS152SS (Side by Side, SS, SS Muf)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 470 £= 624 €= 925 $= 993 AUD
    (ex VAT) ---------------> 400 £ = 534 € = 783 $ = 841 AUD

    *Same price Side by Side and GP Style.
    http://www.50cc.nl/2stroke_pleasure....kes.htm~TsMain
    http://www.rg500.com/
    http://www.solo2tempi.it/
    http://www.thetuningworks.com

    Jolly Moto
    Side by Side, Mild Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) JM0110C /(RGV) JM0603C


    GP Style, Mild Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) JM0110 /(RGV) JM0603





    Price (50cc.nl), inc Tax:

    Part no: (RS) 10127 / (RGV) 12656
    (GP Style, MS Chambers, CF Mufflers) ---> 696 £= 911 €= 1.383 $= 1.485 AUD

    Part no: (RS)12641 / (RGV) 11754
    (GP Style, MS Chambers, SS Mufflers) ---> 575 £= 752 €= 1.142 $= 1.226 AUD

    Price (JollyMoto.it):

    (RS) 0110 /(RGV) 603 (GP Style, no mufflers) ------------> 450 £= 596 €= 884 $= 950 AUD
    (RS) 0110 /(RGV) 603 (GP Style, Alu mufflers) ------------> 524 £= 696 €= 1.032 $= 1.108 AUD
    (RS) 0110 /(RGV) 603 (GP Style, CF mufflers) ------------> 615 £= 816 €= 1.210 $= 1.300 AUD
    (RS) 0110/U /(RGV) 603/U (Raised+Set Bussole, no muf) -> 475 £= 630 €= 934 $= 1.003 AUD
    (RS) 0110/U /(RGV) 603/U (Raised+Set Bussole, Alu muf) -> 550 £= 730 €= 1.083 $= 1.163 AUD
    (RS) 0110/U /(RGV) 603/U (Raised+Set Bussole, CF muf) -> 640 £= 850 €= 1.260 $= 1.353 AUD
    (RS) 0120 /(RGV) 620 (CORSA, Side by Side, no muf) ----> 550 £= 730 €= 1.083 $= 1.353 AUD
    (RS) 0120 /(RGV) 620 (CORSA, Side by Side, Alu muf) ---> 625 £= 830 €= 1.231 $= 1.321 AUD
    (RS) 0120 /(RGV) 620 (CORSA, Side by Side, CF muf) ----> 716 £= 950 €= 1.410 $= 1.515 AUD

    Price (RG500.com):

    (RS) JM0110C (Side by Side, MS, CF Mufflers) ---> 458 £= 607 €=900 $= 966 AUD
    (RS) JM0110 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers)---------> 407 £= 540 €= 800 $= 860 AUD

    (RGV) JM0603C (Side by Side, MS, CF Mufflers) ---> 445 £= 590 €= 875 $= 940 AUD
    (RGV) JM0603 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers)---------> 407 £= 540 €= 800 $= 860 AUD
    http://www.50cc.nl/2stroke_pleasure....kes.htm~TsMain
    http://www.jollymoto.it/
    http://www.rg500.com/

    LuFo

    Price:
    www.racingsm.org

    Nikon


    Price: 400 £ = 534 € = 783 $ = 841 AUD

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Aluminium Silencers
    http://www.nikonexhausts.co.uk/index.htm

    PSTuning


    Price:

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Carbon Fiber Silencers
    http://www.pstuning.nl/

    Samba¿?

    Scorpion¿?

    Sugaya




    Price (RGVSpares.com):

    GP Style & Side by Side, MS Chambers, SS silencers --> 775 £= 1.012 €= 1.537 $= 1.650 AUD
    Free shipping worldwide on this item.

    Price:

    Sprinter -----------------------> 443 £= 587 €= 872 $= 957 AUD= 94.000 ¥
    SP-Racer ----------------------> 424 £= 562 €= 836 $= 916 AUD= 90.000 ¥
    SP-Racer Unleaded ------------> 443 £= 587 €= 872 $= 957 AUD= 94.000 ¥
    SP-Racer Unlead (Side by Side)-> 462 £= 612 €= 910 $= 997 AUD= 98.000 ¥

    Optional Carbon Fiber or Red/Blue/Clear Anodized Aluminium Mufflers.
    All pipes are Mild Steel.

    I need some help with japanese!
    http://www.rgvspares.com/
    http://www.srs-sugaya.com/special.html

    Turfrey

    Price:

    GP Style, Stainless Steel Chambers, Carbon Fiber Silencers
    Set built for Tracy Burkhart from Dakota. Those were one off pipes made for Tracy back in 2000/2001. For years he built every pipe on the YZR's for Team Roberts, and the Modena's. He's out of bike racing now but still tunes the TZ250 Karts for Rainey and Lawson.
    Pipes will be expensive. Please no tire kickers.


    Team Turfrey Racing
    mobile: 209-345-7957
    race shop: 209-544-8588
    fax: 209-848-5565
    email: bturfrey@aol.com
    Tyga
    GP type, Stainless Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0008

    GP type, Mild Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0018

    Side by Side type, Stainless Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0007

    Side by Side type, Mild Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0016




    Price (RGVSpares.com):
    GP Type, Mild Steel, Alu Silencers -----> 274 £ = 360 € = 545 $ = 585 AUD
    GP Type, Stainless Steel, Alu Sil. ------> 390 £ = 510 € = 773 $ = 830 AUD

    Price (Tyga):
    EXCS-0008 (GP Type, SS) -------> 335 £ = 451 € = 656 $= 735 AUD
    EXCS-0018 (GP Type, MS) -------> 178 £ = 240 € = 350 $= 391 AUD
    EXCS-0007 (Side by Side, SS) ----> 328 £ = 442 € = 644 $= 720 AUD
    EXCS-0016 (Side by Side, MS) ----> 170 £ = 229 € = 333 $= 373 AUD

    Price (TheTuningWorks):
    EXCS-0008 (GP Type, SS) /EXCS-0007 (SbyS, SS)(inc VAT) -> 353 £= 468 €= 694 $= 763 AUD
    EXCS-0008 (GP Type, SS) /EXCS-0007 (SbyS, SS)(ex VAT) --> 300 £= 400 €= 590 $= 652 AUD

    Besides should be added the price of both silencers, that does exist 3 options: Aluminium, Carbon and Kevlar.

    Aluminium Silencer* --> 30.21 £ = 39.64 € = 59.95 $ = 63.58 AUD
    Carbon Silencer ------> 87.53 £ = 114.54 € = 173.70 $ = 184.22 AUD
    Kevlar Silencer -------> 91.85 £ = 120.51 € = 182.28 $ = 193.32 AUD

    *15.41 £= 20.22 €= 30.58 $= 32.43 AUD when ordered with a set of chambers.
    http://www.thetuningworks.com
    http://www.rgvspares.com/
    http://tyga-performance.com/site/index.php

    I take out the dyno chart as only could put 20 images per post, I'll manage the others.

    Shipping isn't included in all prices.

    Weigh:

    Arrow =
    DEP =
    Giannelli =
    Jim Lomas =
    Jolly Moto =
    LuFo =
    Nikon =
    PSTuning =
    Sugaya =
    Turfrey =
    Tyga =

    Added RGVSpares in this post and also in head's comparisone one:
    http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...=140618&page=2

    This is the site I'm using to perform the currency conversions:

    http://www.xe.com/ucc/

    If anybody knows any other more accurate, just let us know.

    This is just the beginning.... I'll be updating the post next days.

    Last edited by Jordi RS250; 05-14-2008 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Fix pics links.

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    Don't forget about the Yosh set that was for sale on Ebay recently
    Don't worry, I can fix it.

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    theres already a big exhaust comparison thread from a few years ago laying around somewhere it was just missing pics

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    What's amazing is the Tyga has double the number of welds on that one chamber than the comparable JL chamber. I'm guessing that's the chamber on the Tyga whose welds will bust alot. More welds, more that can bust.
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    Ahh, but more welds = more pipe segments = more power, and a broader powerband at the same time! Also the extra welds allow pipes with a fatter belly section to fit on the bike - and the fatter the belly, the more power (up to a limit of about 10 times the cross sectional area of the exhaust ports)...

    Of course this all depends on the designer knowing what they are doing...

    Personally, I have never had a weld go on a pipe, and I think that these things are caused by the weld being bad in the first place. If the welds are tested with x-ray or ultra-sound, you can guarantee all the welds are good, and never have this sort of problem.

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    CUSTOM LUFO VERSION + MFACTORYWEST medium carbon silencers





    Don't have dynos of it (maybe in the future), but one thing I can assure, they are WAY better than my previous ARROW complete exhausts I had on the bike...

    You can check that on the RS 250 videos on my website, the onboard comparison between ARROW and LUFO exhausts.

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    Nope, welds are the strength of the muffler, and more welds = smoother shape = better flow.......cheers

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    How does the gianelli system perform against say arrow?

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    Hey guys...You told everything as i saw. That much useful infos has this topic.

    But i wonder about GIANNELLIE exhausts...I made a good/best exhaust search for RS125 and i can say that it seems giannelli. So I expected something smiler for RS250 but i couldn't see any comments in here.

    Does anybody have a GIANNELLI system? Could make reviews or comparison??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syanur View Post
    Hey guys...You told everything as i saw. That much useful infos has this topic.

    But i wonder about GIANNELLIE exhausts...I made a good/best exhaust search for RS125 and i can say that it seems giannelli. So I expected something smiler for RS250 but i couldn't see any comments in here.

    Does anybody have a GIANNELLI system? Could make reviews or comparison??
    I have Giannellis on my 98 cup bike. But I can't compare them to anything else, 'cause I never had the stockers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agabinet View Post
    I have Giannellis on my 98 cup bike. But I can't compare them to anything else, 'cause I never had the stockers.
    Then, may i say; r u happy with them.?? Any problem? Is the quality good enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syanur View Post
    Then, may i say; r u happy with them.?? Any problem? Is the quality good enough?
    Quality is fine -- very good, in fact. I'm just getting used to the bike, so it's hard to say. When I get some dosh together I'll get a set of Jollys, I run Jollys on my TZR and they're great.

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    A mate has Gianellis on his RS 250. Don't think they are quite on level with JLs, Jollys, Tygas or Sugayas, which seem to be the most popular brands.
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    I've go a Gianelli on my RS125, and whilst there's nothing wrong with the performance, the can that came with it is the loudest can in the history of creation. I started the bike, and clouds of wild birds could be seen leaving the neighbourhood. I never took it off fast idle, shut it down and put one of my old 250 carbon cans on it. There is no way on Gods earth I could have ridden that on the public highway. The chamber is good though, useful improvement over standard.

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    tyga aren't hard to find. have you tried searching for them at all? first google hits:

    http://tyga-performance.com/site/ind...cPath=72_75_90

    http://www.tygausa.com/39-rs250
    '99 aprilia rs250

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