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    Exhaust Pipes Comparison Thread! Let's put all of them. :D

    As done with the heads with inserts, let's do the same with the pipes:

    Arrow




    Price (AF1) ---------------> 358 £ = 477 € = 700 $ = 751 AUD
    Price (RRP) ex VAT (20%) -> 390 £ = 517 € = 770 $ = 827 AUD
    Price (TTW)(inc VAT) -----> 499 £ = 663 € = 983 $ = 1.055 AUD
    Price (TTW)(ex VAT) ------> 425 £ = 564 € = 836 $ = 897 AUD

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Kevlar Fiber Mufflers
    http://www.arrow.it/
    http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scrip...idproduct=1405
    http://www.redracingparts.com/
    http://www.thetuningworks.com

    DEP


    Price:

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers black painted, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    http://www.deppipes.com/depmain.htm

    Giannelli


    Price:

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Kevlar Fiber Mufflers
    http://www.giannelli.com

    Jim Lomas

    GP Style, Stainless Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153



    GP Style, Stainless Steel, Stainless Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152


    Side by Side, Stainless Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA157SS /(RGV) CS153SS



    Side by Side, Stainless Steel, Stainless Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA156SS /(RGV) CS152SS


    GP Style Raised, Stainless Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) CA157hi /(RGV) CS153hi





    Price (50cc.nl), inc Tax:

    Part no: (RS) 16271 / (RGV) 16281
    (GP Style, SS Chambers, CF Mufflers) --> 710 £= 930 €= 1.412 $= 1.516 AUD

    Part no: (RS)16270 / (RGV) 16280
    (GP Style, SS Chambers, SS Mufflers) --> 627 £= 820 €= 1.245 $= 1.336 AUD

    Price (RG500.com):

    (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153 (GP Style, SS, CF Mufflers) ---> 510 £= 674 €= 1.000 $= 1.074 AUD
    (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152 (GP Style, SS, SS Mufflers) ---> 470 £= 624 €= 925 $= 993 AUD
    (RS) CA157SS /(RGV) CS153SS (S by S, SS, CF Muf) -> 510 £= 674 €= 1.000 $= 1.074 AUD
    (RS) CA156SS /(RGV) CS152SS (S by S, SS, SS Muf) -> 470 £= 624 €= 925 $= 993 AUD
    (RS) CA155 /(RGV) CS151 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers) -> 447 £= 593 €= 880 $= 945 AUD
    (RS) CA154 /(RGV) CS150 (GP Style, MS, SS Mufflers) -> 408 £= 541 €= 803 $= 862 AUD
    (RS) CA155SS /(RGV) CS151SS (S by S, MS, CF Muf) --> 447 £= 593 €= 880 $= 945 AUD
    (RS) CA154SS /(RGV) CS150SS (S by S, MS, SS Muf) --> 408 £= 541 €= 803 $=862 AUD

    Price (Solo2Tempi)**:

    (RS) CA154 /(RGV) CS150 (GP Style, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA154SbS /(RGV) CS150SbS (Side by Side, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA154hi /(RGV) CS150hi (GP Style Raised, MS, SS Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 375 £= 490 €= 745 $= 800 AUD

    (RS) CA155 /(RGV) CS151 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA155SbS /(RGV) CS151SbS (Side by Side, MS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA155hi /(RGV) CS151hi (GP Style Raised, MS, CF Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 410 £= 535 €= 812 $= 872 AUD

    (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152 (GP Style, SS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA156SbS /(RGV) CS152SbS (Side by Side, SS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA156hi /(RGV) CS152hi (GP Style Raised, SS, SS Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 440 £= 575 €= 873 $= 937 AUD

    (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153 (GP Style, SS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA157SbS /(RGV) CS153SbS (Side by Side, SS, CF Mufflers)
    (RS) CA157hi /(RGV) CS153hi (GP Style Raised, SS, CF Mufflers)
    -----------------------------------------> 480 £= 635 €= 945 $= 1.035 AUD

    **S2T have the the price of 447 £= 585 €= 888 $= 955 AUD for all the models in pipes section, but checking the price list just below their pics, shows the ones described here.

    Price (TheTuningWorks)*:

    (RS) CA155 /(RGV) CS151 (GP Style, MS, CF(currently Kevlar) Mufflers)
    (RS) CA155SS /(RGV) CS151SS (Side by Side, MS, CF(currently Kevlar) Muf)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 400 £= 525 €= 795 $= 853 AUD
    (ex VAT) ----------------> 340 £= 445 €= 676 $= 725 AUD

    (RS) CA154 /(RGV) CS150 (GP Style, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA154SS /(RGV) CS150SS (Side by Side, MS, SS Mufflers)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 340 £= 445 €= 676 $= 725 AUD
    (ex VAT) ----------------> 290 £= 380 €= 576 $= 620 AUD

    (RS) CA157 /(RGV) 153 (GP Style, SS, CF (currently Kevlar) Mufflers)
    (RS) CA157SS /(RGV) CS153SS (Side by Side, SS, CF (currently Kevlar) Muf)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 536 £= 700 €= 1.065 $= 1.143 AUD
    (ex VAT) ----------------> 456 £= 597 €= 906 $= 973 AUD

    (RS) CA156 /(RGV) 152 (GP Style, SS, SS Mufflers)
    (RS) CA156SS /(RGV) CS152SS (Side by Side, SS, SS Muf)
    (inc VAT) ---------------> 470 £= 624 €= 925 $= 993 AUD
    (ex VAT) ---------------> 400 £ = 534 € = 783 $ = 841 AUD

    *Same price Side by Side and GP Style.
    http://www.50cc.nl/2stroke_pleasure....kes.htm~TsMain
    http://www.rg500.com/
    http://www.solo2tempi.it/
    http://www.thetuningworks.com

    Jolly Moto
    Side by Side, Mild Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) JM0110C /(RGV) JM0603C


    GP Style, Mild Steel, Carbon Fiber Mufflers
    Part nr.: (RS) JM0110 /(RGV) JM0603





    Price (50cc.nl), inc Tax:

    Part no: (RS) 10127 / (RGV) 12656
    (GP Style, MS Chambers, CF Mufflers) ---> 696 £= 911 €= 1.383 $= 1.485 AUD

    Part no: (RS)12641 / (RGV) 11754
    (GP Style, MS Chambers, SS Mufflers) ---> 575 £= 752 €= 1.142 $= 1.226 AUD

    Price (JollyMoto.it):

    (RS) 0110 /(RGV) 603 (GP Style, no mufflers) ------------> 450 £= 596 €= 884 $= 950 AUD
    (RS) 0110 /(RGV) 603 (GP Style, Alu mufflers) ------------> 524 £= 696 €= 1.032 $= 1.108 AUD
    (RS) 0110 /(RGV) 603 (GP Style, CF mufflers) ------------> 615 £= 816 €= 1.210 $= 1.300 AUD
    (RS) 0110/U /(RGV) 603/U (Raised+Set Bussole, no muf) -> 475 £= 630 €= 934 $= 1.003 AUD
    (RS) 0110/U /(RGV) 603/U (Raised+Set Bussole, Alu muf) -> 550 £= 730 €= 1.083 $= 1.163 AUD
    (RS) 0110/U /(RGV) 603/U (Raised+Set Bussole, CF muf) -> 640 £= 850 €= 1.260 $= 1.353 AUD
    (RS) 0120 /(RGV) 620 (CORSA, Side by Side, no muf) ----> 550 £= 730 €= 1.083 $= 1.353 AUD
    (RS) 0120 /(RGV) 620 (CORSA, Side by Side, Alu muf) ---> 625 £= 830 €= 1.231 $= 1.321 AUD
    (RS) 0120 /(RGV) 620 (CORSA, Side by Side, CF muf) ----> 716 £= 950 €= 1.410 $= 1.515 AUD

    Price (RG500.com):

    (RS) JM0110C (Side by Side, MS, CF Mufflers) ---> 458 £= 607 €=900 $= 966 AUD
    (RS) JM0110 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers)---------> 407 £= 540 €= 800 $= 860 AUD

    (RGV) JM0603C (Side by Side, MS, CF Mufflers) ---> 445 £= 590 €= 875 $= 940 AUD
    (RGV) JM0603 (GP Style, MS, CF Mufflers)---------> 407 £= 540 €= 800 $= 860 AUD
    http://www.50cc.nl/2stroke_pleasure....kes.htm~TsMain
    http://www.jollymoto.it/
    http://www.rg500.com/

    LuFo

    Price:
    www.racingsm.org

    Nikon


    Price: 400 £ = 534 € = 783 $ = 841 AUD

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Aluminium Silencers
    http://www.nikonexhausts.co.uk/index.htm

    PSTuning


    Price:

    GP Style, Mild Steel Chambers, Carbon Fiber Silencers
    http://www.pstuning.nl/

    Samba¿?

    Scorpion¿?

    Sugaya




    Price (RGVSpares.com):

    GP Style & Side by Side, MS Chambers, SS silencers --> 775 £= 1.012 €= 1.537 $= 1.650 AUD
    Free shipping worldwide on this item.

    Price:

    Sprinter -----------------------> 443 £= 587 €= 872 $= 957 AUD= 94.000 ¥
    SP-Racer ----------------------> 424 £= 562 €= 836 $= 916 AUD= 90.000 ¥
    SP-Racer Unleaded ------------> 443 £= 587 €= 872 $= 957 AUD= 94.000 ¥
    SP-Racer Unlead (Side by Side)-> 462 £= 612 €= 910 $= 997 AUD= 98.000 ¥

    Optional Carbon Fiber or Red/Blue/Clear Anodized Aluminium Mufflers.
    All pipes are Mild Steel.

    I need some help with japanese!
    http://www.rgvspares.com/
    http://www.srs-sugaya.com/special.html

    Turfrey

    Price:

    GP Style, Stainless Steel Chambers, Carbon Fiber Silencers
    Set built for Tracy Burkhart from Dakota. Those were one off pipes made for Tracy back in 2000/2001. For years he built every pipe on the YZR's for Team Roberts, and the Modena's. He's out of bike racing now but still tunes the TZ250 Karts for Rainey and Lawson.
    Pipes will be expensive. Please no tire kickers.


    Team Turfrey Racing
    mobile: 209-345-7957
    race shop: 209-544-8588
    fax: 209-848-5565
    email: bturfrey@aol.com
    Tyga
    GP type, Stainless Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0008

    GP type, Mild Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0018

    Side by Side type, Stainless Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0007

    Side by Side type, Mild Steel
    Part nr.: EXCS-0016




    Price (RGVSpares.com):
    GP Type, Mild Steel, Alu Silencers -----> 274 £ = 360 € = 545 $ = 585 AUD
    GP Type, Stainless Steel, Alu Sil. ------> 390 £ = 510 € = 773 $ = 830 AUD

    Price (Tyga):
    EXCS-0008 (GP Type, SS) -------> 335 £ = 451 € = 656 $= 735 AUD
    EXCS-0018 (GP Type, MS) -------> 178 £ = 240 € = 350 $= 391 AUD
    EXCS-0007 (Side by Side, SS) ----> 328 £ = 442 € = 644 $= 720 AUD
    EXCS-0016 (Side by Side, MS) ----> 170 £ = 229 € = 333 $= 373 AUD

    Price (TheTuningWorks):
    EXCS-0008 (GP Type, SS) /EXCS-0007 (SbyS, SS)(inc VAT) -> 353 £= 468 €= 694 $= 763 AUD
    EXCS-0008 (GP Type, SS) /EXCS-0007 (SbyS, SS)(ex VAT) --> 300 £= 400 €= 590 $= 652 AUD

    Besides should be added the price of both silencers, that does exist 3 options: Aluminium, Carbon and Kevlar.

    Aluminium Silencer* --> 30.21 £ = 39.64 € = 59.95 $ = 63.58 AUD
    Carbon Silencer ------> 87.53 £ = 114.54 € = 173.70 $ = 184.22 AUD
    Kevlar Silencer -------> 91.85 £ = 120.51 € = 182.28 $ = 193.32 AUD

    *15.41 £= 20.22 €= 30.58 $= 32.43 AUD when ordered with a set of chambers.
    http://www.thetuningworks.com
    http://www.rgvspares.com/
    http://tyga-performance.com/site/index.php

    I take out the dyno chart as only could put 20 images per post, I'll manage the others.

    Shipping isn't included in all prices.

    Weigh:

    Arrow =
    DEP =
    Giannelli =
    Jim Lomas =
    Jolly Moto =
    LuFo =
    Nikon =
    PSTuning =
    Sugaya =
    Turfrey =
    Tyga =

    Added RGVSpares in this post and also in head's comparisone one:
    http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...=140618&page=2

    This is the site I'm using to perform the currency conversions:

    http://www.xe.com/ucc/

    If anybody knows any other more accurate, just let us know.

    This is just the beginning.... I'll be updating the post next days.

    Last edited by Jordi RS250; 05-14-2008 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Fix pics links.

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    Don't forget about the Yosh set that was for sale on Ebay recently
    Don't worry, I can fix it.

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    theres already a big exhaust comparison thread from a few years ago laying around somewhere it was just missing pics

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    What's amazing is the Tyga has double the number of welds on that one chamber than the comparable JL chamber. I'm guessing that's the chamber on the Tyga whose welds will bust alot. More welds, more that can bust.
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    Ahh, but more welds = more pipe segments = more power, and a broader powerband at the same time! Also the extra welds allow pipes with a fatter belly section to fit on the bike - and the fatter the belly, the more power (up to a limit of about 10 times the cross sectional area of the exhaust ports)...

    Of course this all depends on the designer knowing what they are doing...

    Personally, I have never had a weld go on a pipe, and I think that these things are caused by the weld being bad in the first place. If the welds are tested with x-ray or ultra-sound, you can guarantee all the welds are good, and never have this sort of problem.

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    CUSTOM LUFO VERSION + MFACTORYWEST medium carbon silencers





    Don't have dynos of it (maybe in the future), but one thing I can assure, they are WAY better than my previous ARROW complete exhausts I had on the bike...

    You can check that on the RS 250 videos on my website, the onboard comparison between ARROW and LUFO exhausts.

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    Some more info (for what it's worth)


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    am i blind or is there no yellow (jollymoto) in that graph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nettic View Post
    am i blind or is there no yellow (jollymoto) in that graph?
    You are blind...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey_rs250 View Post
    Some more info (for what it's worth)
    Added! Thanks mate!

    Millet and Figaroli pipes are still in the market?


    BroLy are this pipes built in small series or just one existing set?
    Last edited by Jordi RS250; 06-04-2011 at 04:50 PM.

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    There are also Jollymoto Corsas,(Side by side) i have them on my bike, but since my bike is opened up i cant take a decent picture of them.

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    How about this:


    I don't know where or when this was done, and I have nothing to do with it. The pipes are Jim Lomas, Arrows and original with catalytic converter. Nice post, hope this is usable.

    I have Jim Lomas side by side pipes, and I just love them! The sound, the lightness, the performance gain and the bulid quality are all fantastic!
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    Talking about lots of segments...



    I full agree with Keean on that one

    More exhausts... (although it's a one-off by Mark Dent)







    And PS-Tuning from Holland (http://www.pstuning.nl/):



    Last edited by smokey_rs250; 02-15-2008 at 08:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi RS250
    BroLy are this pipes built in small series or just one existing set?
    They were built for us only, LUFO doesn't make exhaust series for the market unfortunately.

    If a customer goes to his workshop with a 50, 80, 125, 250 (1cyl, 2cyl), 500 (1cyl, 2cyl, 4cyl) he builds the exhaust(s) for it having in account the customer purpose.

    We've currently our RD 500 V4 for example, in another engine tunner (friend of ours) which also builds pipes etc, and he his building a set of 4 pipes for it, they are significantly different in terms of measures than our modified JOLLY's in terms of belly diameter and all-exhaust cones diameters.. I'll show you some photos of it when finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey_rs250 View Post
    Talking about lots of segments...



    I full agree with Keean on that one
    That looks like a the hose coming out of the back of my clothes dryer.


    No really I didn't know the number of welds mattered or was a factor. Guess it's time to read the 2-stroke theory book.

    Also not sure about the graph from above that implies adding Aarow or Figoroli exhaust to a stock bike gets you 8hp. And adding Jolly gets you 10. At least that's how I read that graph. A bit optimistic I think or there were other things added as well.
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