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Schu
09-06-2005, 10:02 AM
Here are a few more detailed Aprilia shots. showing a touch of the workmanship. will get some sceneic shots later :thumbup:


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/f86e31471cac617234fbd0876e682561-.jpg

http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/d63982f05a3e402c782b7921bf7db59d-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/3b4e6430eb1784a61e7a1ca7fd378b9e-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/b40a9e4dce063e47b8ede9ed998cbc6f-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/03361b89b2b0e2bf6253d92cd14bcaca-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/3eceb63234d3587bfce9146c26301167-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/fa9d4517460ddaecb605639562692583-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/4980daa8fdbdc06ace331c8a7b7e9576-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/9edb0cfae2b90f1193e2bb26fc76de96-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/a9fd9c5ed72b543fc6a770e1fc255314-.jpg

:o :thumbup: :o

derrickhackman
09-06-2005, 10:30 AM
WOW, and I thought I kept my bike clean. What do you use on it to get it that clean????

No chicken stripes ... she gets a workout :peace:

What a beautiful machine... I would look at that thing all day and never get bored.

Schu
09-06-2005, 11:59 AM
Hahahaha, thanks. know how she stays clean? never been washed... yet :)

jwa1
09-06-2005, 12:03 PM
that tank is sexier than mmmmmm nothing even compares :lover:

i thinkit needs a little more carbon fiber :worship:

derrickhackman
09-06-2005, 12:27 PM
I just gotta say it again, that has to be one of the wildest bikes :lover:

I heard this story before .... no washing cuz i go to fast for crap to collect on it :cheers:

Schu
09-06-2005, 02:07 PM
I love how the weave is actually parallel to the letetring in this pic... attention to detail
http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/d63982f05a3e402c782b7921bf7db59d-.jpg

derrickhackman
09-06-2005, 03:44 PM
That is nice work for sure, detail is what it is all about. Anyone can build crap.

I noticed you do not have the insert in the front faring intake. Did you take that out or do Neras not come with one? I think it is called the 'labia' or something like that.

scott2ride
09-06-2005, 06:27 PM
Damn fine bike.... damn fine!

I noticed your 'tie' on the front fork is at the bottom of the stroke. If it often ends up there then your Sag is not set right. You need to either seset it and firm up the preload and/or compression. Or get a stiffer front spring!

RZRob
09-07-2005, 08:39 AM
Schu,

That thing is awesome. How can you resist riding it (getting it dirty)? I love my Factory, but I noticed it needs a good detailing. Next weekend's project.

I equate motorcycles to wine. So if it's a good bottle and you keep the cap on, you never get to taste it. Some of us bust the top off and chug it. Others drink it low and refill it with cheap ripple or water. At the moment I'm sipping mine, but I have taken a few big swigs. Your's looks like you've never popped the cork.

RZ Rob :peace:

alice
09-07-2005, 09:34 AM
hey schu - where's the NERA plate from the headstock gone ?? or is the bike an expensive RSV Factory upgrade ??
whatever, she's very very nice...

alice
09-07-2005, 09:36 AM
nother thing - those forks are set really high...guess she suits you though - what does the front tyre look like ??

Schu
09-07-2005, 09:58 AM
nother thing - those forks are set really high...guess she suits you though - what does the front tyre look like ??


Thanks for all the kind comments. What NERA plate are you talking about???

here is a little front end action:
http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/fa9d4517460ddaecb605639562692583-.jpg

Schu
09-07-2005, 09:59 AM
Schu,
Your's looks like you've never popped the cork.

RZ Rob :peace:

Oh Rob.... come on, not cork popping? For me I drink Chimay Ale, Chopin Vodka, and fine cognac(when I can get some). I may not drink fast, but at the end of the night the whole bottle WILL be gone :cheers: Take a look at the truth :rolleyes:


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/a9fd9c5ed72b543fc6a770e1fc255314-.jpg



http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/fa9d4517460ddaecb605639562692583-.jpg

Dvus
09-07-2005, 10:02 AM
nice!

I still hate you

Should call you matt lablanc

Great bike. I wish I had it:crybaby

onefastworm
09-07-2005, 01:19 PM
Beautiful bike Schu! Do you have any pics that show the whole bike?

RDBUL
09-07-2005, 01:27 PM
Wow! What a bike, I agree. I think little carbon is in order for my factory. :peace:

Apriliain
09-07-2005, 03:23 PM
Very, very smart indeed, finish is real quality by the look of it, any pics of the whole bike to get a feel for the whole machine, also noticed your forks are pushed through the yokes a fair bit, well like an awfull lot actually, what is your reason for this?

Is the bike a Nera?

Smart & probably very expensive :)

Schu
09-07-2005, 03:30 PM
Very, very smart indeed, finish is real quality by the look of it, any pics of the whole bike to get a feel for the whole machine, also noticed your forks are pushed through the yokes a fair bit, well like an awfull lot actually, what is your reason for this?

Is the bike a Nera?

Smart & probably very expensive :)


I just got her home last week, I still need to get the bike set up for me. I am at factory settings now, I will be tuning before to long... takes time for me, I received three bikes in the last two weeks so between that and getting the garage set up for 4 or more bikes is a little tough when you put in 12 hour days. even at stock settings she is VERY good in the handling department, I think the clutch might be slipping slightly though.


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/33c5fc22b11a26f149ed643a49d6c99e-.jpg


The whole thing, tim, the owner in the background, and my financial advisor Duy.

derrickhackman
09-07-2005, 03:32 PM
Dude, 4 bikes dare I even ask what the other 3 are!!!??

Schu
09-07-2005, 03:40 PM
Dude, 4 bikes dare I even ask what the other 3 are!!!??

RD's :micah:

scott2ride
09-07-2005, 05:35 PM
nother thing - those forks are set really high.

I have to Agree with Alice here. The forks are right at the top of the triple clamps. Even at standard settings they should have 3-4 lines showing.

This will be slowing down the steering and causing it to push the front tire and probably run wide when exiting corners. Plus turn in will be slower.

Schu
09-07-2005, 05:42 PM
I have to Agree with Alice here. The forks are tight at the top of the tripple clamps. Even at standard settings they shopuld have 3-4 lines showing.

This will be slowing down the steering and causing it to push the front tire and probably run wide when exiting corners. Plus turn in will be slower.
all true statements

Dr. Thrillride
09-07-2005, 07:49 PM
Schu: don't listen to both Alice and Scotty, they are both wankers :D:D, especially that kiwi guy:D. Well, Alice not so much...

That's were the topclamp belongs on the Nera. We've been through this when Ganjaman put the Nera top clamp on his factory. Don't touch it. If you pm me your email, I'll send you a pdf of the pages from the manual.

By the way, very nice bike. Did you buy it second hand? The guys were asking about the 'production number' of the bike, which you can read off the VIN too. The three digit number comes on a little rubber plate that goes in the slot on the top clamp. ISRSV is '069', another Nera owner.

Schu
09-07-2005, 10:16 PM
Schu: don't listen to both Alice and Scotty, they are both wankers :D:D, especially that kiwi guy:D. Well, Alice not so much...

That's were the topclamp belongs on the Nera. We've been through this when Ganjaman put the Nera top clamp on his factory. Don't touch it. If you pm me your email, I'll send you a pdf of the pages from the manual.

By the way, very nice bike. Did you buy it second hand? The guys were asking about the 'production number' of the bike, which you can read off the VIN too. The three digit number comes on a little rubber plate that goes in the slot on the top clamp. ISRSV is '069', another Nera owner.


Roger on the vin number doc. I don't know what happen to the rubber plate... i will try and find out.

scott2ride
09-08-2005, 12:24 AM
Schu: don't listen to both Alice and Scotty, they are both wankers :D:D, especially that kiwi guy:D.

You are a mean mean rude naughty man Dr Lowside! sniff sniff :crybaby:



That's were the topclamp belongs on the Nera.

We were just testing you! :p:

PS, but the real question is, "Why does the Nera Triple clamp sit so high when the forks are the same?" Do ya know? Eh... eh... eh !!!! :rolleyes: I bet you dont!!!

Would ya like to? :plus:

alice
09-08-2005, 06:36 AM
:spankie: - damn it Doc just what's wrong with that ????
I 2nd scotty's question as to the height of the forks, get em dropped - she'll steer quicker than an errrmmm really fast steering thing...and drop into corners real nice like...that's why I wasasking about the front tyre.
as per the comeback question - well I really don't know why the setting is different - is the headstock thickness different ??
and yeah it was the small numbered plate in the headstock I was referring to - you can actually see where it should have been as there is just the recess for it in the headstock.

alice
09-08-2005, 06:42 AM
oh and just one other thing - schu you are one lucky bas*$%d...

Schu
09-08-2005, 07:01 AM
oh and just one other thing - schu you are one lucky bas*$%d...


Not sure, but perhaps the angle betwen the to yokes is different. I have never seen rake specifiactins between the two bikes. that would tell all. let me check my manual. and yes alice, i do consider myself so fortunate to be the keeper of such a nice motorcycle :worship:

Schu
09-08-2005, 07:05 AM
25 degrees on the head angle, butthat doe not mean that the triple clamps keep it at that angle
Schu

Dr. Thrillride
09-09-2005, 09:47 PM
It's all about stiction. Any other answer is unacceptable.:D:D

amauri
09-10-2005, 12:19 AM
Let's see who's been paying attention and didnít get hypnotized by all that Carbon Fiber. :bangwall:
Nera owners excluded.

1-) what's different on the Nera rear wheel (besides the small amount of Magnesium content)?
2-) why?

You can see it in the photos Schu posted.

Schu
09-10-2005, 06:18 AM
Let's see who's been paying attention and didnít get hypnotized by all that Carbon Fiber. :bangwall:
Nera owners excluded.

1-) what's different on the Nera rear wheel (besides the small amount of Magnesium content)?
2-) why?

You can see it in the photos Schu posted.


Better picture amauri? By the way... do you ever sleep?

http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/73eb2a4b0146bbeb4dec617f83beed4a-.jpg

Schu
09-10-2005, 07:32 AM
I can see it amauri, very intersting... (Small amount of Magnesium?)

Hows the job going? I ordered my spare seat, I might need a few more things as I begin to build my spares kit... thanks.
Peace
Schu

Jack_RSV
09-10-2005, 07:49 AM
Busted....eheh :banana: I noticed the HUGE difference....but this pleasure it's just for experts.... :cool:

amauri
09-10-2005, 09:48 AM
Better picture amauri? By the way... do you ever sleep?
Dude, I'm not the one posting at 4AM.

By "small amount of magnesium content" I mean that there must not be much of it mixed with the aluminum in the Nera wheels.

They're no that much lighter than the blue ones, 9 oz less on the front and 24 oz less on the rear.

derrickhackman
09-10-2005, 10:26 AM
All right, I give up. :bangwall:

I have looked at this wheel and cannot come up with a difference. It is powder coated but that is all I can get.

Clearly I am no guru here but I would like to learn :)

Dr. Thrillride
09-10-2005, 10:48 AM
don't look at the wheel, rather the extrania (is that a word?).

derrickhackman
09-10-2005, 11:05 AM
The rotor has what looks like a spacer behind it. Like there is a spacer or bushing that the actual rotor bolts into.

Am I warm at least?

derrickhackman
09-10-2005, 11:18 AM
Here is my final guess, the wheel is reversable meaning it is machined both sides to accept the sprocket or the rotor.

Close?
:spankie:

Jack_RSV
09-10-2005, 01:23 PM
Now take a look to this photo....and tell me the solution...

derrickhackman
09-10-2005, 02:50 PM
FORGED MAGNESIUM WHEELS: THE UTMOST IN LIGHTNESS
Another component that contributes towards making the RSV 1000 Nera unique is the superlight wheels made of forged magnesium, which thanks to a special coating ensure maximum resistance to corrosion. This is the first time this type of wheel has been used on a production bike. The wheel nuts and bolts are made entirely of titanium. All this makes the wheels an overall 1.9 kg lighter than the forged aluminium wheels used on the RSV 1000 R Factory.

I am still on the hunt to solve this mystery. I am such a blockhead sometimes. :bangwall: :bangwall:

Apriliain
09-10-2005, 03:22 PM
There are what looks like extra nuts/bolts? in between the fixing bolts for the rear disc, not sure what they are for, but i am sure some one will enlighten us :)

derrickhackman
09-10-2005, 03:35 PM
Yeah, this is what I mentioned above but it appears this is not the answer. They are 17inch wheels and made of forged Mg.

The hugger has a SKU under it (not sure why that is the case). The swingarm is the same and the exhaust looks pretty standard for Akra's. The sidewall of the tire has 'nubbings' on it (must be the molding process). The tire rotation is correct. The rear axle nut is on the 'correct' side. The only thing I can see that is different is the (looks like) a spacer behind the rotor.

Dr. Thrillride
09-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Ah, you got it - now what are they for?


There are what looks like extra nuts/bolts? in between the fixing bolts for the rear disc, not sure what they are for, but i am sure some one will enlighten us :)

derrickhackman
09-10-2005, 06:07 PM
Same hub as the front wheel and they put on a different cast rim?

IS RSVR
09-10-2005, 06:42 PM
Roger on the vin number doc. I don't know what happen to the rubber plate... i will try and find out.


My 069 plate came in the mail with the registration papers before I received the bike, you should find out what happened to yours for sure

looks like yours is nera 029 as seen on this pic http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/b40a9e4dce063e47b8ede9ed998cbc6f-.jpg

on your bike it only says 00029? or did you erase the numbers from the pic before posting it online?

Schu
09-10-2005, 11:09 PM
http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/829aafb7a94fdc065f37322cb33799a2-.jpg






My 069 plate came in the mail with the registration papers before I received the bike, you should find out what happened to yours for sure

looks like yours is nera 029 as seen on this pic
on your bike it only says 00029? or did you erase the numbers from the pic before posting it online?


Yeah, i really want to find out what happened to that plate... I am really begining to feel that I made a good choice in the NERA. She is such a blast to ride, and while I hate the attention it attracts, it's fun to see folks so stoked to see one in person.

Peace
Schu


Now I am going to ride my RD


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/38ea9d68da48fa516596315ac51780ed-.jpg

Schu
09-11-2005, 05:05 AM
Hey amauri... it's 3:05am today :)

amauri
09-11-2005, 09:51 AM
Now I get it
You've been up all night standing guard out in the garage just in case some tries to break in and mess with your Nera. :bond: :bond:

amauri
09-11-2005, 09:56 AM
Here's a photo that shows that rear wheel spacer ring on the Nera.

I think this is an engineering screw-up.
They used Ti bolts for the rotors and later realized that the speedometer would not work (Ti is non ferrous).

So they engineered an aluminum ring and added 5 steel bolts to trigger the speedo sensor.

The Nera wheels are completely interchangeable with the Factory.

Dr. Thrillride
09-11-2005, 10:43 AM
Wow, I thought it was a heat sink...a really light heat sink :cigar:

zx6racer
09-11-2005, 11:36 AM
But does the Nera or the Factory have ceramic wheel bearings or Ti cush drive ??? :peace:

IS RSVR
09-11-2005, 11:48 AM
Here's a photo that shows that rear wheel spacer ring on the Nera.

I think this is an engineering screw-up.
They used Ti bolts for the rotors and later realized that the speedometer would not work (Ti is non ferrous).

So they engineered an aluminum ring and added 5 steel bolts to trigger the speedo sensor.

The Nera wheels are completely interchangeable with the Factory.


I have often wondered why that was like that,, your probably right.

Schu
09-11-2005, 02:27 PM
perhaps it was engineered like that on purpose... I think Aprilia could have stepped up and done a iron button/insert on the head of the titanium bolts

amauri
09-12-2005, 12:27 AM
perhaps it was engineered like that on purpose...
What's your theory on the reason for that spacer?

Schu
09-12-2005, 10:29 AM
What's your theory on the reason for that spacer?


Well I guess what I am saying amauri is that perhaps they knew that titanium bolts would not trigger the sensor, there for a NEED for the spacer, as opposed to thinking, the engineers over milled the hub area after the fact. the pickup on that sensor, a magnetic trigger? perhaps your right, because then it is like they are just adding weight back on the wheel, but why would they not just use a ferrous metal instead of milling a magnesium wheel, and taking the time to make a drilled/lightened steal spacer? Hum.........
Schu

Apriliain
09-12-2005, 03:08 PM
Sounds like a cock up on a late Friday afternoon when Luigi wanted to go on the piss and just said "feck it, that'll do!!" in an Italian accent of course :)

As you say Schu it is not logical coz all thay had to do was use steel bolts!!

Must be some other explanation........

Iain

Schu
09-12-2005, 03:12 PM
f*ck, my typing sucks ass, corrected. I beter go practice... Na... I think I'll go riding instead :)

amauri
09-12-2005, 06:51 PM
but why would they not just use a ferrous metal instead of milling a magnesium wheel, and taking the time to make a drilled/lightened steal spacer? Hum.........
Schu
The spacer ring is aluminum.

The combination of spacer, 5 Ti bolts, 5 steel bolts w/nuts makes the wheel 4 oz heavier than if they had just used 5 steel bolts like all the other rear wheels.

This is one of those questions we'll never know the answer too.
Maybe they did it that way just to mess with us.

scott2ride
09-12-2005, 07:19 PM
My theory is that when they tested the new Nera Magnesium wheel they had issues with stress cracks or similar where the 5 Ti bolts attach the brake to the thin Ti wheel. And that it would have been very expensive to get a whole new wheel sesigned and done, so they added the steel ring so as to spread the load over 100% more area with the 5 extra bolts.

However I dont know why they are not Ti bolts as well. Maybe they needed to be torqued alot tighter.!

Just a thought!

amauri
09-12-2005, 07:44 PM
My theory is that when they tested the new Nera Magnesium wheel they had issues with stress cracks or similar where the 5 Ti bolts attach the brake to the thin Ti wheel. And that it would have been very expensive to get a whole new wheel sesigned and done, so they added the steel ring so as to spread the load over 100% more area with the 5 extra bolts.

However I dont know why they are not Ti bolts as well. Maybe they needed to be torqued alot tighter.!

Just a thought!
Good theory but...

1-) the spacer ring is not steel its aluminum.
2-) the rotor itself acts like a load spreading or support device, the rotor is steel.
3-) Ti bolts are non ferrous therefore would not trigger the magnetic speedo sensor, thatís why they added the ring and extra bolts.

Schu
09-12-2005, 11:06 PM
This is one of those questions we'll never know the answer too.
Maybe they did it that way just to mess with us.

hahahaha... i love it!

SkiN
03-04-2006, 09:09 PM
Here are a few more detailed Aprilia shots. showing a touch of the workmanship. will get some sceneic shots later :thumbup:


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/f86e31471cac617234fbd0876e682561-.jpg

http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/d63982f05a3e402c782b7921bf7db59d-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/3b4e6430eb1784a61e7a1ca7fd378b9e-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/b40a9e4dce063e47b8ede9ed998cbc6f-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/03361b89b2b0e2bf6253d92cd14bcaca-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/3eceb63234d3587bfce9146c26301167-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/fa9d4517460ddaecb605639562692583-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/4980daa8fdbdc06ace331c8a7b7e9576-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/9edb0cfae2b90f1193e2bb26fc76de96-.jpg


http://schu.zoto.com/img/original/a9fd9c5ed72b543fc6a770e1fc255314-.jpg

:o :thumbup: :o

Sorry, I want ask to the Nera oweners if the complete set of frame and rear suspension bolts are made of Titanium too or just normal Aprilia's steel?
Many thanks!!!

amauri
03-04-2006, 10:27 PM
Motor mounts, rear shock/linkage and caliper bolts are the regular steel, subframe and rearsets are Stainless.

y2kmille
03-05-2006, 02:26 AM
Shu, you should put steel bolts in the rotor mount holes and go for a ride and then take a picture of your v-max, I bet you could get it up to about 310-320mph!