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unaesthetic
12-22-2002, 05:49 AM
For all you non-ditech Scarabeo owners out there - how fast have you gotten yours up to? Also, what mods do you have done to the scoot?

I'm planning on rebuilding my Scarabeo within the next two months and have just started my research on parts that are available - I'd appriciate any help!

Thanks,
Chris

Dragster pilota
12-22-2002, 07:32 AM
unaesthetic in da house:
I'm planning on rebuilding my Scarabeo within the next two months

Me to lookin the Scarabeo way...

I have been lookin at the Scarabeo for a while now, almost bought a Beo 200cc but felt it a bit to large for driving <em>Scooter Terror stylee</em> in the city, the DiTech Beo with a NOS kit would humiliate Beemers at red lights or maybe the 100cc 2-stroke Beo with Malossi 125cc, Multivar 2000, Delta Clutch, 24mm Dellorto and Dig exaust could also rock the streets...

The motor in Dutch Royal T's Rally is basically the same Air Cooled Minarelli as in the Beo so I guess he also can be of great help when looking at tune and performace...

The wildest Beo tuner is a Dane called Velo (I'll see if I cen get him to post some of his tricks here) and he has two of them, one silver AC with some serious tune (see dyno printout) then he has one wild Fabrizi kit on an Aerox LC motor in a black Beo with 13" wheels, Braking discs & calipers and way to much to mention...

In this video (it's large 39min, 11sek @ 250mb) you can see him on the dyno with the silver Beo and also when he totally shreds a rear tire in a 2 min burnout... <a href="http://forum.mopedgallery.syslogic.dk/mg/video/Scooter%20Traef%202002.wmv" target="top">Download it here</a>

The dyno printout of his Scarabeo with 10.45hp @ 112kph at the rear wheel...

<img src="http://forum.mopedgallery.syslogic.dk/mg/images/Scootertraef-2002/effektkurver/bigimages/scooter2002_Aprilia_Scarabeo_MichaelH_10_43_hk.gif" style="border:0;"/>

DP says: A killer Beo can be a blast....

Velo
12-22-2002, 11:07 AM
Unaesthetic says: "I'm planning on rebuilding my Scarabeo within the next two months and have just started my research on parts that are available - I'd appriciate any help!"

Shure. Just drive it to me. Tell me how fast you want it and how loud it is allowed to be. And I'll get you there.

The engine is a Minarelli Horisontal AC and there are tons and mere tons of goods for it. From the lousy Proma parts, wich you should NOT buy, to the god Malossi, Top Performances an Polini parts and allso pipes from the makers of Gianelli, Ixil, Arrow, Jolly moto, Bidalot, Doppler and many others.

My fastest ever Scarabeo was my old Polini powered old black one("Click" to enlarge images, wich is from its 2. re make wich was 5 km/h slower on the top 126 and not the 131 the old one made - both numberes figured from a Sigma bc800 digital speedo)
<a href="http://forum.mopedgallery.syslogic.dk/mg/images/Galleriet/Velo'sScarebeo/Image10.html" target="top"><img src="http://forum.mopedgallery.syslogic.dk/mg/images/Galleriet/Velo'sScarebeo/thumbnails/tn_Image10.jpg"/></a> <a href="http://forum.mopedgallery.syslogic.dk/mg/images/Galleriet/Velo'sScarebeo/Image33.html" target="top"><img src="http://forum.mopedgallery.syslogic.dk/mg/images/Galleriet/Velo'sScarebeo/thumbnails/tn_Image33.jpg"/></a>

If you just tells me how fast/pickup you have planned, then I'll tell you what I would have done.

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12-22-2002, 11:24 AM
Unaesthetic, as in Chris from the @#%$ talker/unaesthetic.net fame?

unaesthetic
12-22-2002, 05:31 PM
Haha.. yeah, that's me - who are you?:rolleyes:

unaesthetic
12-22-2002, 05:50 PM
Velo - thanks for the info!

The pics are nice too. 131km... that's darn fast for such a small bike :)

My beo is a 1999 50cc that was kitted last year with a Top Performance 70cc kit & new roller weights. It was NOT rejetted and I did not add a new carb.

This recently came back to bite me in the a$$ because two days ago it died. I haven't had the chance to tear it apart yet but it sounds like the rings went out, so I'm going to assume I need a whole new block/piston :(

It ran really strong, but I guess it was too lean.

As far as planned mods I'm going to kit it for 70cc again, and a new carb this time around. I've been thinking about a pipe but I REALLY don't want the scoot to be any louder, that just annoys me :)

Maybe you can recommend some pipes that are close to stock sound while still making some power for the 70cc kit?

By the way, I would bring it to you but I live in the united states so that would be a bit of a drive ;)

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12-22-2002, 07:04 PM
It's Marty.. we used to talk a bit back in the dying days of the Truth.

You should come up to PA sometime and ride. You know Ed Gieda right? Supposidly myself, him, and another guy by the name of Mark are riding this spring. They've both got vespa's and it'd be cool to have another aprilia scoot by my side.

Velo
12-23-2002, 01:07 AM
From the states and you don't want to be noisy.
Do you use local dealers and what parts do they sell?

I don't know much you are planning to spend on the sweet little thing.
(I use the metric system, so don't let that confuse you.)

Let me get you right. You want to go fast but not being loud? (sad that is the great thing with 2-strokers that is theyr ability to scream).

Well the following is what I would do. (have acctually done but took it a step further)

*Top performances Longstroke crank & rod (optional)
*Top Performances Trophy cylinder<img src="http://shopbasic.dk/mall/images/varer/230488.jpg" style="border:0;"/>
*Top Performances Powered exhaust (non bend)<img src="http://shopbasic.dk/mall/images/varer/230763.jpg" style="border:0;"/>
*Dell'orto 17 mm Carburator with a .72 or .74 main jet to be used WITH stock air filter (Maybe go clean this up)
*Malossi MHR Overrange Vario system (it will cost you a lot, but it is the best on the market and my first one have lived nearly 10.000 something km now, and is still good as new - I have more than one scooter with it mounted and I won't change) The malossi belt comming with the system have a grip failure. My choise is to replace it with a polini belt (248.003.2) and the pressure spring following to this vario is WAY to hard, use stock or a silver polini spring.
*Cluch: Your stock might go kill it self with the power increase. I have been satisfied with polini 3 armed cluch and it is easy to setup.
* A gear up kit is needed if you want to exed the 100 km/h barrier. Top Performances have som pre pressed that is easy to install. Go for at least a 20% increase.<img src="http://shopbasic.dk/mall/images/varer/230843.jpg" style="border:0;"/>
*Rollers: You probobly need heavier rollers than the 3.9 and 4.7 grams following the vario, a Malossi 66 7089 set with 5.1 - 6.1 and 7.1 grams should do it. Than you can mix rollers for your need (every 2. has to be same weight or els you would risk bending your crank and destroing your vario)


Conserning safty. I don't know what tyres you are driving with, but the stock save tyres are lousy! Burn them! The Michelin M 29 S is my favorite for the thin 16" wheels They are grippy and is, as the only "thin" 16", rated to 130 km/h and not only 100 as most others on the marked.

Conserning shock absorbers. The fork can be accepted, but the rear shock is old scholl italien girly stuff. (To chewing cum style) The makers of Paioli, Doppler Bitubo, Malossi(Paioli) and Top performances (Paioli again) makes great suspensin for it. You ned one in around 31 cm of length. I have a Plain Doppler on one of my rides (two acctually but one of them is in a larger rebuild) and a Biturbo. The Doppler wil cost you a third of the Bitubo I am using and is great enough for regular driving, being that, long trips or with heavy load.(Doppler/Malossi)
<img src="http://www.scootparts.nl/images/324631_gr.gif" style="border:0;"/><img src="http://www.scootparts.nl/images/malossi_rs24.gif" style="border:0;"/>

If you are a styling fan. Braking makes som great goodies I have modded a Gileara Runner Wave disk on to my front and a SR wave in same design for my rear and id looks great<a href="http://shopbasic.dk/mall/shop_varer.asp?action=show_item&shop_id=6101&vare_id=232624" target="top"><img src="http://shopbasic.dk/mall/images/varer/232618_small.jpg"/></a>
If you haven't plannet that much braking power at least change pads to some Braking or sbs. thay will stop you faster than the original pads.

Go fly a scarabeo

ip
12-24-2002, 08:59 AM
runing that box pipe on AC is a crime , those box pipe make your AC run hot because they have too much back pressure , get yourself a real expansion chamber and it runs a lot cooler not to mention a lot faster --

as far as noise make sure to run a airbox ,Leovinci and tecnigas silencer are quite or you can custom fit a longer silencer on a real race pipe -

Velo
12-24-2002, 03:31 PM
<strong>Ip Wrote:</strong> <em>Runing that box pipe on AC is a crime , those box pipe make your AC run hot because they have too much back pressure , get yourself a real expansion chamber and it runs a lot cooler not to mention a lot faster --

as far as noise make sure to run a airbox ,Leovinci and tecnigas silencer are quite or you can custom fit a longer silencer on a real race pipe -

Conserning boxpipe, it depends A LOT of the cylinder and how the engine is set up.
Leovinci is acceptable parts. (With the trophy cylinder chose the RS model) Technigas SUX big time, it is not worth the mo</em>