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newnut
01-31-2014, 02:25 PM
Well here's a couple of pics of the little rs50. Had to put it in a UK registered frame as its a spanish import. custom yellow paint job, aprilia decals finishing touch pics to come in a few days! Enjoy, sorry I didnt get more!

sorry, why cant i upload pics????

Zav
01-31-2014, 02:48 PM
Is this the one I saw on eBay what looked like a right shed ?????

newnut
01-31-2014, 04:09 PM
no it wont be, I got it local, it wasn't up for sale, although it was a shed! I had to wait ages for the guy to admit defeat and accept he would never get round to starting it! lol
why cant i upload pics?

Spudgun60
01-31-2014, 04:19 PM
How are you trying to upload pictures? I use a Photobucket account. Let's see if one of my pics work?

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q545/Spudgun60/Aprilia_RS50-1_zpsc53e50a1.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/Spudgun60/media/Aprilia_RS50-1_zpsc53e50a1.jpg.html)

Yes it does.

Oh, this is a 'before' pic of my RS50.

newnut
02-04-2014, 04:34 PM
ok lets try again..... http://http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h339/newnut/FOT41F5_zps22042d42.jpg (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/newnut/media/FOT41F5_zps22042d42.jpg.html)


http://http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h339/newnut/WP_20140115_005_zps9d247ab3.jpg (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/newnut/media/WP_20140115_005_zps9d247ab3.jpg.html)

Pranja
02-05-2014, 06:31 AM
You need to resize those pictures-they are too big. 800x600 is good resolution for forums.

xXxKillDogxXx
02-10-2014, 11:15 AM
got a tidy little bike there tbh

Josper_989
02-19-2014, 06:53 PM
Nice looking bike. Mine started as scrap metal as well, now i'm the only one at the track with an rs! :p:

newnut
02-20-2014, 11:15 AM
Well after putting it all back together I decided I wasn't finished or happy with it, rear shock had NO damping, so got a new shiney one by BETOR with adjustable preload.... Also picking up a 125 front end for the upside down fork conversion!

Zav
02-20-2014, 11:20 AM
Well after putting it all back together I decided I wasn't finished or happy with it, rear shock had NO damping, so got a new shiney one by BETOR with adjustable preload.... Also picking up a 125 front end for the upside down fork conversion!


Dont bother with the 125 front end

get the rs4 front end straight fit

apriliamandan
02-20-2014, 02:24 PM
Could you link us the Betor shock newnut? Cheers.

Zav
02-20-2014, 02:37 PM
Could you link us the Betor shock newnut? Cheers.

http://www.adrenalin-pedstop.co.uk/p/Aprilia_RS50_upto__2006_Betor_rear_shock_absorber-1628.aspx

The shock you want is this one but for the rs http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HAGON-REAR-MONO-SHOCK-DERBI-GPR50-GPR50R-GPR-50-2000-2004-/190712955174?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2c6760c126

I got that shock of the bike Connor sold me him and Ryan through it was a cheap peice of crap but it's not ahaa
it is a bit higher but it's fully adjustable and is nice and comfy

i also have a betor shock but I'm not too keen on it

apriliamandan
02-20-2014, 04:18 PM
They're too expensive! lol

Zav
02-20-2014, 05:43 PM
Ahaa there ace tho the last one I posted

my dad has the unrated one on his rg what's full adjustable same spec as race shocks cost him 700

newnut
02-20-2014, 09:08 PM
Considering its just a street bike for my son, the betor will be fine, especially as i only paid 45 quid for it new. The forks are a done deal now, wont be too hard as i got some zxr400 upside downs on a cbr600f

Zav
02-21-2014, 05:57 AM
Considering its just a street bike for my son, the betor will be fine, especially as i only paid 45 quid for it new. The forks are a done deal now, wont be too hard as i got some zxr400 upside downs on a cbr600f

Which ones did you get and did you get a front wheel brake and caliper because there's certain years of rs125 that get the speedo from rear and the rs50 wheel fits but the brakes don't

plus you have to chop a bitnof the headstock off

I'm jot saying it can't be done I'm saying there's no point making it hard for you when rs4 forks are better and a straight fit

newnut
02-21-2014, 07:23 AM
I'm not sure on the year, they are the black ones, to match the black frame I've put it all in. I'm having trouble using photobucket at the mo or i'd put up pics, i'll work on that later. I've got a complete front end, including brakes etc. I'm sure i'll be able to get it all to work, although I was unaware about the speedo difference, thanks I'll have to look into that, im picking the front end up in the morning. the zxr forks took a lot of work, had to machine out the yokes and get the stem pressed in etc etc. I'll add a pick if I can find one, it was quite a few years ago but I must have one somewhere.

newnut
02-21-2014, 10:01 AM
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h339/newnut/WP_20140220_022_zps8038e52d.jpg (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/newnut/media/WP_20140220_022_zps8038e52d.jpg.html)
thats the new shock installed.

following are the only 2 pics i can find of the old street fighter project. first is when I got it back to a rolling chassis, second was with forks removed again after paint etc.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h339/newnut/IMAGE_945_zps85d30bac.jpg (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/newnut/media/IMAGE_945_zps85d30bac.jpg.html)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h339/newnut/IMAGE_432_zps171035b7.jpg (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/newnut/media/IMAGE_432_zps171035b7.jpg.html)

newnut
02-22-2014, 04:19 PM
Ok, so I picked up the 125 forks today, front wheel, yokes etc, left the caliper as frankly it was shite, gonna source a better set up. any way, just thought i'd keep u updated on the 125 front end swap, I know its been done b4 but I'm here to help others who may have questions. I'll get some pics when I go out for a ciggie, the only problem im up against is what has been mentioned earlyer, the stem is too long. Now I have seen others say it just needs cutting down, this is not the case, as the thread for the nuts doesn't go far enough down on the stem to get it tight, infact its about 25mm out. bare in mind that thread is on the outside of the stem for the lock nut, then theres a thread inside the stem for the head bolt. both of these will need machining further to give the right adjustment height, then the top cut off about 25mm. I've read someone used a spacer, I think thats not really a good way to go, but each to there own. the other option is to get the stem pressed out of the 50 bottom yoke and into the 125 bottom yoke.... this may be the way I end up going, I'll keep you posted.

newnut
02-22-2014, 06:15 PM
ok, further investigation while having a ciggy, the ignition barrel, inparticular the steering barrel/lock fowls the frame, quite a big issue, as if you cut off the stem and get the top yoke down to the height of the original then it fowls evan more..... another minor issue is the steering stops are in the wrong place, an angle grinder will solve this issue easily, by chopping them back about 3 or 4 mm. I'm starting to think that a large machined spacer is the only real way to accomplish this swap in order to keep existing ignition etc. even then I am going to have to loose the security steering lock using the trusty old angle grinder!!! I tried to get pics but its too dark, I'll use the decent camera in the morning.

Zav
02-22-2014, 06:49 PM
ok, further investigation while having a ciggy, the ignition barrel, inparticular the steering barrel/lock fowls the frame, quite a big issue, as if you cut off the stem and get the top yoke down to the height of the original then it fowls evan more..... another minor issue is the steering stops are in the wrong place, an angle grinder will solve this issue easily, by chopping them back about 3 or 4 mm. I'm starting to think that a large machined spacer is the only real way to accomplish this swap in order to keep existing ignition etc. even then I am going to have to loose the security steering lock using the trusty old angle grinder!!! I tried to get pics but its too dark, I'll use the decent camera in the morning.


I said aid you should of got a rs4 front end there a straight fitterment not a single part needs changing or adjusting plus put here better forks all round and lighter

did you get one with the speedo drive on front (if didn't get a Koso speedo only there about 60 and run of rear wheel with there own sensors what they supply)

Pas for fitting them pop stem out and get a rs125 ignition and re wire for rs50 then you can use the steering lock as for the stoppers cut them off and make new ones with alloy weld and shape into right shape and place will work fine on such small cc bike

as for tyres try get my06 wheels from the 125 on front and rs50 rear then you have the right tyre sizes and it will be safe

newnut
02-22-2014, 07:24 PM
I have the 125 ignition as well, its identical to the 50, so that wont work. just been having another look while out havin a smoko, a spacer is the only way to go, otherwise theres no way to get the barrel to fit, the barrel is just too close to the frame. it will all be more clear as soon as I have some pics for you all. Not a lot needs to come off to give clearance, maybe a mm or 2, it may still function, I have 2 to play with so we'll see!

I have the forks with the speedo on the front so thats a bonus.

The current steering stops hit a solid part of the frame, so I'll just cut them back a bit and file them to clean them up, not a cause for major concern there.

After all is done, the top yoke/bars will be sitting 15mm higher, not really noticeable and actually feels quite comfy. I'm gonna get the spacer machined up on monday, bolt it all up and see how it looks. I'll keep you posted.

newnut
02-23-2014, 12:17 PM
God damn! this is a teaser! lol. made up a make shift spacer to see how it will look/work, and guess what, it doesn't! lol. it would for a street fighter but it puts the bars too close to the fairing so it's no good, which means It has to go lower. I'm gonna write up a decent how to when its all sorted. Looked at swapping the stems over today, that wont work very well as the inside of the top yoke will need sleeving as its slightly bigger. SO, The ONLY way I can see to do this right is, get the thread continued further down the stem to allow the lock nut to seat in the right place, then all that needs to be done is chop down the stem a little, and use a cap style nut over the top of the yoke. You could use the 125 nut which goes inside the stem, but this would mean continuing the thread inside too which is just more work.

The security steering lock is still going to be lost I believe.

Zav
02-23-2014, 12:28 PM
God damn! this is a teaser! lol. made up a make shift spacer to see how it will look/work, and guess what, it doesn't! lol. it would for a street fighter but it puts the bars too close to the fairing so it's no good, which means It has to go lower. I'm gonna write up a decent how to when its all sorted. Looked at swapping the stems over today, that wont work very well as the inside of the top yoke will need sleeving as its slightly bigger. SO, The ONLY way I can see to do this right is, get the thread continued further down the stem to allow the lock nut to seat in the right place, then all that needs to be done is chop down the stem a little, and use a cap style nut over the top of the yoke. You could use the 125 nut which goes inside the stem, but this would mean continuing the thread inside too which is just more work.

The security steering lock is still going to be lost I believe.


I did say it will be hard putting 125 one one

I have started my modernising of my 2000 plate rs today I'm putting all suspension and brakes and tyres of a my06 onto a old shape and my custom rear shock on with arrow max tyres

then putting the wiring from my06 and dash

then I'll be putting me Streetfighter conversion on the forks as I hate the riding style of the rs but I like the fairings so will be cutting them down to fit

then will be getting a full 77 setup


i have have only seen the 125 conversion twice and both times it was streetfightered to make it all work and look right
as for steering lock go without it and put the ignition eather in same place or put it under tank for security and have separate key for seat (as the tank just lifts up once seat off so be safe )

newnut
02-23-2014, 12:53 PM
I agree, I'm going to do away with the steering lock, I'd like to keep the ignition where it is. I've never herd of a bike not being stolen because the steering lock was on! lol.

Make sure you get pics of your project Zav, I'd really like to see it, I wish more people would document their work.

I'm taking it all off later and going to start making adjustments to the steering lock and stop locks. I need to shave a bit off the top yoke ignition fixing points to give clearance around the frame. Then take the stem on tuesday to an engineer to continue the stem thread down a further 20mm.

The only thing I can do nothing about is the fork tubes will protrude above the top yoke, this is to keep the same geometry as standard. at a rough guess they will stick up 30mm
I've seen the grey rs50 on this site somewhere that has the conversion done, the guy simply says he cut the top off the stem and put in a spacer, looking at his pic I think he must of put the spacer below the lower bearings, definitely not the way I want to do it.