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mason.planft
11-17-2013, 06:14 AM
Has anybody out there fitted an aftermarket pipe, filter and Power Commander? I'd love to see some 'before and after' dyno runs. I'd really like some more torque in the bottom end rev range. I've ridden the new 'wasser boxer' GS, same peak power and torque in the similar rev range, but the GS has stacks more torque right off idle... I'm not used to having a 1200 twin that needs to go back into 1st for slower corners. I'm curious to see what can be achieved with altered fueling. Apart from that gripe, I'm a pretty satisfied Capo owner!

ChrisHall
11-17-2013, 07:01 AM
Dynojet are working on a Power Commander for the Caponord. Unfortunately the Caponord injection system is not straightforward. It has two injectors per cylinder (not a problem), however the pulse width of each injector is different. New firmware is required for the Power Commander to support this unusual mode of operation. Expect it to be launched in February.


I'm not used to having a 1200 twin that needs to go back into 1st for slower corners
With the crude FatDucs fitted and turned up "rich" the torque is back as expected. In standard trim I found it really doesn't like anything below 3000rpm in anything but 1st or 2nd. As for 2000rpm - forget it!

mason.planft
11-17-2013, 07:22 AM
It makes for a fun ride when you show it the whip, but I find it a pain in busy car parks not being able to do less than about 20kph in 1st. This article makes a mention of aprilia perhaps revising engine mapping. Worth a look. http://bikesonsky.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/aprilia-caponord-1200-vs-bmw-r-1200-gs.html

keithc
11-17-2013, 02:41 PM
I wouldn't hold your breath on a power commander becoming available. Dorsoduro 750 owners have been waiting for years for one to appear to no avail I think the 1200 Dorsoduro owners are in the same boat.. The work in developing a unit that works with the Aprilia system isn't, I believe, with all of the work required for a relatively small production run.
I for one would not fit one as this is one item the UK insurance companies see as a tuning item and will load your insurance accordingly, if they offer insurance at all.
Not being able to ride my bike at 20mph in a car park really isn't an issue to me and one I can live with as part of owning such a great bike.
Best of luck to those that want one and maybe one day it will happen.

Keith C

fredaroony
11-17-2013, 02:45 PM
Not being able to ride my bike at 20mph in a car park really isn't an issue to me and one I can live with as part of owning such a great bike.
Best of luck to those that want one and maybe one day it will happen.

Keith C

I've found it a real pain as I've been doing a lot of two up riding so I just went down a tooth on the front sprocket.

keithc
11-17-2013, 02:58 PM
OK so that mod is available now and I suspect quite a bit less than a power commander if one ever arrives. :)

Keith C

fredaroony
11-17-2013, 03:11 PM
OK so that mod is available now and I suspect quite a bit less than a power commander if one ever arrives. :)

Keith C

haha yes just a little less :) I bought this one http://www.ebay.de/itm/Esjot-Ritzel-16-Zahne-Teilung-525-Aprilia-Dorsoduro-1200-2011-/161049331577

mathew
11-18-2013, 04:53 PM
I've found it a real pain as I've been doing a lot of two up riding so I just went down a tooth on the front sprocket.

Did you need to do anything to the speedo with the 16 tooth? Does this make cruising at 30mpg better?

Mr Pope
11-19-2013, 02:52 AM
Not a thing as far as speedo is concerned, yes it makes it manageable at 30..

fredaroony
11-19-2013, 02:56 AM
Not a thing as far as speedo is concerned, yes it makes it manageable at 30..

Totally agree, made a big difference and no measured difference with the speedo vs GPS.

mason.planft
11-19-2013, 08:03 AM
I think I'll give the Fatduc O2 sensor mod a go. I'll get it on the dyno and see if I can post a 'before and after' run sheet up on here. It is a great bike and I'm very fond of it, I just reckon it could be even greater with a fatter bottom end. I reckon Aprilia have struck a nice balance between 'hoon' bike, and 'practical' bike. It'll handle a two up weekend away, then turn off the traction control, and it's a hoot in the twisties! But of course, there's horses for courses, this one handles a great many different courses...

mason.planft
11-26-2013, 12:10 AM
I've investigated the Fatduthethec option. My nearest dealer that stocks them is an Italian bike specialist in Sydney Aus. He tells me that the O2 sensor is only in play up until around 3500revs, after that, the engine mapping doesn't use O2 input. He quoted $180 AUD for a set. Other than that, he said people are 're-flashing' the fuel mapping for around $400. I'm not sure what's involved in re-flashing, I think I'd rather have an easily reversible mod.
As far as insurance goes, the assessor (in my experience) is just a bike shop that gets paid to work out how much it'll cost to fix. They aren't affiliated with the insurance agency, so they don't care about mods. They just want the job of fixing it.

nisbeam
11-26-2013, 07:12 AM
Not quite true as you can feel a distinct difference at higher revs as well. Of course this may well be because extra fuel has been fed through as you go up through the range, but I found when set correctly there is a big difference throughout with much better driveability from low revs and up through the range - just lost about 3 mpg though. But in the UK the drop from summer temperatures made a difference as this also comes in to play. I found I was unable to tune them to make any difference in the colder weather so removed mine and went back to standard. I will be selling mine some time when I find out where I have out them - PM me if you are interested I can post to Oz. Here is how I fitted them https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82920844/Motocorsaro%20O2%20Optimisers%20-%20Fitting%20instructions%20for%20Caponord%201200. docx

mason.planft
11-27-2013, 04:49 AM
Thanks for the detailed instructions nisbeam. I guess the fuel injection will run richer in cold weather to account for the higher air density. Give me a buzz when you find them, I reckon it'll run better all year round here in Aus!