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Glen1990
07-19-2012, 01:06 AM
So i got bored and thought ill make the single seat cowl ive been wanting. my first time working with firbeglass turned out pretty well

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/Glemo1990/486436_422411741130599_2134842024_n.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/Glemo1990/578646_422411917797248_1033059072_n.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/Glemo1990/561338_422412387797201_1921302665_n.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/Glemo1990/557306_422412841130489_105310115_n.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/Glemo1990/529586_422413334463773_1232678894_n.jpg

Needs few more coats of firbeglass its alot smoother than it looks in photos too just needs a sand down and stuff very easy to do tho i just duct taped over my normal seat cowl what didnt damge my paint in any way either

oh and i fitted a 125 front master cylinder

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/Glemo1990/389076_421658274539279_1649458097_n.jpg

RS_Patrick
07-19-2012, 05:19 AM
125 front master cilinder might not be the best idea... because its ment to operate 2 much bigger calipers instead of 1 small caliper, you wont have much controle over the front brake and it will easly lock up.
Your pumping the oil now from a large master cilinder pump to a small caliper, so just a tiny sqeeze will already move the same amount of oil the stock master cilinder would if it was fully pressed, so be really carefull mate!

Glen1990
07-19-2012, 05:35 AM
yeah i had a little go it seemed alot better for control to me but yeah you can lock it up easy i dont really see a huge diff in the breaking power i got it for 11 as my stock one was drilled out where the brake switch went.

Any clues how many lays i should do this cowl?

chrism15
07-19-2012, 08:20 AM
iv been doing some fibreglassing (repairing parts of fairings and things) on the suzuki turned out pretty good once painting

one tip youv probs thought of :rolleyes: WHERE GLOVES! yes i didnt wear them and i saw a little clear bag with some folded up clear film stuff but thought ah dont know what its for, nothin on box so isnt important.... had bits of resin on me hands and all sorts

them folded up film things? they were clear plastic gloves!! :bangwall: :lol:

nice work though, wondered when you would get round to it ;)

Glen1990
07-19-2012, 10:17 AM
lol yeah ive been on about it for a while now yeah i noticed the gloves i used the gloves i got with the set from halfords some how i still got it on my hands :S lol no holes in the gloves work that out? i went with the rear cowl without the Y pannels as i think it looks better with the bolts etc up to now its cost me 26... alot more than i thought it would its 2 sheets thick now and 3 sheets in places i thought it needed it buy im gonna buy another resin as i have some matting left to do another coat then it shouldnt ever break its pretty dam strong now not sure what im gonna do to smooth it off you can see what the lip was tiny bit where the seat ended i may just buy some car filler and smooth it and get rid of them little bits

only thing im confused about is to add support under i noticed the normal seat has support under it rubber bits that seat on the frame so i may try make some support not sure gonna buy the same paint as my bike too that is 10 a can for 400ml but i think i may get away with two and base coat needs to be black then ill clear coat it ran out of money so its gonna be next week then week after that i need to get new wheel bearings and steering bearings and fork seals fork oil full new cables.

then save up for a pair of sportys. one bloody thing i need is the rear brake pad spring as i didnt get it with the back :( arkward little part then ill mot it took me months to get here like.

i was gonna do my full motorbike test but wont be able to get the money so ill be leaving it and keeping my rs 50 and just tuning it little more, gonna do my car test then i have a full moped for a 50cc so i can take my L plates off and take someone on the back if i wanted(wont be happeing i wouldnt think) so ill have a car and my rs

chrism15
07-19-2012, 11:29 AM
im sure with a car licence your only allowed a 50cc auto and you have to show L plates, might be wrong though

iv got me theory next week (full bike), just keep reading highway code over and over :angel: and the company said if i pass that then i can have the rest done within 5 days...me mate has just failed his actual test which has made me nervous :(

Glen1990
07-19-2012, 11:34 AM
nah you have a full 50cc as long as its classed as a moped you dont need L plates as long as you do your cbt and keep your cbt you have a full moped for the life for your car one im 100% as my brother was gonna do it and phoned the dvla so ill have a full licence for my rs and a car

chrism15
07-19-2012, 11:36 AM
fair enough ;)

Glen1990
07-19-2012, 11:38 AM
you got me worried now so im gonna try find the info lol

Glen1990
07-19-2012, 11:40 AM
If you have a car driving licence

If you passed your car driving test on or after 1 February 2001, you must complete a CBT course to confirm your full moped rights.

If you passed your car driving test before 1 February 2001 you don't need to complete a CBT course to ride a moped. However, the Driving Standards Agency (DSA) recommends that you do.

If you want to ride a motorcycle you must apply for a provisional motorcycle licence and then complete a CBT course.

chrism15
07-19-2012, 12:37 PM
so can you have passengers?

Glen1990
07-19-2012, 02:29 PM
Yep =] pretty awesome not many people know about it

chrism15
07-19-2012, 02:34 PM
thats sound ;) really nervous about me test though, not so much the theory but like the final module on the road.. they take you to chester and iv never rode round chester - thats where my mate failed because the traffic lights are layed out differently and stuff

think il do me car test next yr, no point me getting a car...il never afford the insurance about 10,000 a yr!!!! so il get me bike test done and have a couple of bikes then see what car insurance is like next yr

what car you getting?

Glen1990
07-19-2012, 02:47 PM
i want to restore an aust mini or something ill be keeping my rs 50 for a while tho

chrism15
07-19-2012, 04:36 PM
my mate is restoring a mini atm, dunno how far he is on it now but he was having LOADS of trouble with his next door neibour complaining because he is renting so the bloke next door has complained to the landlord saying theres a mini thats off the road on next doors driveway and whatever

my dad had a origional mini sport for his first car at 17, his mum had it from new and 2 yrs later he owned it and the car went from doing 2mile every day at 30mph to doing 40mile a day on the motorway at full throttle! haha lasted 3 months and blew the engine up but when his mate re-built the engine for him it was so easy to work on coz the body was so light...remove engine mounts and drop it onto a jack
then lift the hole chassis over the engine and out! so light :)

Michelet
07-20-2012, 10:16 AM
Looks good but I have a question!

Won't the singleseat cowl be too big to fit because you laid the fibreglass on the outside of the original seat?
I'll make one in a few days and I think I'll reinforce it on the inside with a layer or two! (To reinforce at the fasteningpoints and to make it fit better)

scottydog
07-20-2012, 10:51 AM
just as a note with the resin, make sure you are wearing gloves for sure! If it is an epoxy resin, I'd also wear a respirator as the fumes can be breathed in if you are not careful. It is possible to become sensitized to the hardener and when that happens you won't be able to work with the stuff after that.

Other than that have fun!! :cheers:

Glen1990
07-20-2012, 02:09 PM
nah it wouldnt be as put one layer on the outside of the mold then i built the other layers inside its maybe the most tiny bit bigger tip tho im redoing it as i messed up the cutting gonna work out on still but im gonna just glass the seat then put that on the normal cowl and glass it and filler and smooth it out and will fit perfect ill say do it would make life alot easier

oh and i did wear gloves some how it still got on my hands. yeah i was working outside so mask wasnt something i felt i needed

RS_Patrick
07-20-2012, 05:44 PM
Outside or make sure theres a "draft" constandly blowing the fumes out.
Some epoxy resins seem to desolve vinyl gloves a litle bit just enough for the stuff to get through it, filler doesnt do that, but the resins (atleast some of them) seem to have no dificulty of getting trough, though im supecting its just a part/component that gets trough as it didnt really harden and whiped/washed off pretty easy.

Glen1990
07-21-2012, 01:09 AM
Your right patrick as my girlfriend was helping me and was wearing some of her gloves for hair dying and stuff and never got any on her hands yet i was using the ones i got with the kit and got it on my hands, VERY bad since you got them with the kit

celica221
10-14-2012, 12:00 AM
nice job