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.50 cal
11-10-2011, 04:11 PM
Bought my rsv4-f in august, putting it away for winter with deams of next spring already. I love it but have a growing list of minor flaws i want tweaked and im not impressed with the help from my dealer. Iv been ignored and sluffed off, not what i expected from buying the only bike in stock with its own display case. #1 is the warrenty worth saving, iv already been burnt on a back tire that should have been covered and the full cost of 2 services that i was told would be under warrenty, will this only continue as the bills to fix mount. and yah i know better but they did say it was covered. I mean really im standing there and blowen off by a random phone call. I only wanted info on suspension setups and that call is more important then the guy who 1 week earlyer droped $23k on the counter? Not to mention if ur not in their race culb click u know shit! This bike was not bought to turn a buck on the track but will be used in every extream it was built for so dont tell me to come to open house ride day to learn my bike! Really i got no issue with the brand and love my APE but u can tell its a wild platform thats been nutted for road use and would like vary much to discuss futher mods u have found to be worthy or nessisary. Other topics i have are gearing, 6th is pointless over 10k rpm but love those long gears, waight issue on right side i belive to be that massive can, and over feed back in top of the tree on deep hard corners which im sure a suspention adjust would fix but a larger back tire made worlds of difference with more centrifical waight on the ass end. Iv read every word printed on rsv4 and dont want to rip on my dealer but do feel abit alone and any hints would help.

jgos929
11-10-2011, 05:06 PM
I didnt understand one single word of that.

Eppy
11-10-2011, 05:17 PM
That just have me a headache.

ckruzel
11-10-2011, 05:33 PM
how old are you? no mfg, car or bike warranties tires, tires however have there own warranty from the mfg of the tire its against defects, if something damaged it, well there is no warranty unless it was a warranty item then it can be consequential damage, anyone who has ever bought a new car has found those tire warranty booklets in the packet of paperwork

you would actually ask a counter guy at your dealership for suspension advice, if i want suspension advice i call a suspension guy or company

i think instead of making 80 sentences run on and into each other you should post up a "i got a couple question" thread and list them and you will get some answers

have you set sag and ride height on your bike?

zvez
11-10-2011, 05:34 PM
I'm not sure under what scenario a tire would be covered under warranty. And unless the dealer specified in writing the services were free, that's something you'd have to pay for, as I'm not aware that aprilia has any "free service with purchase" offers on this bike.

I haven't heard of anyone having major problems with warranty being honored, so I should think you'd want to keep it.

The pipe, dunno it doesn't seem all that big or heavy to me as compared to some of the other bikes out there. Ditto, don't the bike is overly heavy.

Sixth gear on most liter bikes is useless on the streets unless you're going 80+ mph. A lot of people remedy this by going to a 15tooth sprocket in the front (some threads on this, you can do search and find those tips).

I'm pretty happy with my bike, it does make me realize just how mediocre of a rider I am. I love the engine.

Sounds like your dealer may not be the greatest, crappy dealers are not exclusive to aprilia, many many crappy ducati, honda, yamah, etc dealers out there as well.

Hope all works out for you. I think I answered most of what you wanted??

Chris

mikef4uk
11-10-2011, 05:39 PM
WTF is that all about? I read it twice and can't remember anything

.50 cal
11-10-2011, 05:45 PM
long story short Aprilia rules, dealer blows, anyone else find common issues with the bike or dealerships? biggest problems being lack of product backing, lack of bottom power, too much gearing on top end, and as the front comes up it carves bad to the right with perfect consistancy.

.50 cal
11-10-2011, 05:48 PM
Aprilia admitied to having got a bad batch of tires and when the bond of the tread blows apart in 300 km of break in id say its a defect! AND OLD ENOUGH TO PAY CASH FOR AN RSV4!

xa-mont
11-10-2011, 05:57 PM
OLD ENOUGH TO PAY CASH FOR AN RSV4!

WOW You're so cool! can i be your friend? :worship:

jpbits
11-10-2011, 06:44 PM
listen to what ckruzel says, its up to the tyre manufacturer not the bike manufacturer

no matter how much experience or confidence you have on a bike you never stop learning, track days will help with that. generally if you ask people at the track they will know more about settings and what it takes to go fast than someone at a dealership

Phunky Phish
11-10-2011, 06:48 PM
Come on guys...
WNFO!!!!

I would have put it on credit and used some of that cash on going back to school and learning some punctuation :)

Great bike though.

MishMashRSV4
11-10-2011, 06:51 PM
You're comin in too hot, Ghostrider.

Use the search function of this subforum for the word "issue"

ckruzel
11-10-2011, 07:00 PM
Aprilia admitied to having got a bad batch of tires and when the bond of the tread blows apart in 300 km of break in id say its a defect! AND OLD ENOUGH TO PAY CASH FOR AN RSV4!

i would say 99.999999999999999 percent of the time the tire ran over something and it blew apart

anyway, since the tire has a warranty what did pirelli say?

ckruzel
11-10-2011, 07:01 PM
Aprilia admitied to having got a bad batch of tires and when the bond of the tread blows apart in 300 km of break in id say its a defect! AND OLD ENOUGH TO PAY CASH FOR AN RSV4!

link or documentation? i doubt they admitted to this, they would have been forced to recall them

DuctTape
11-10-2011, 07:09 PM
long story short Aprilia rules, dealer blows, anyone else find common issues with the bike or dealerships? biggest problems being lack of product backing, lack of bottom power, too much gearing on top end, and as the front comes up it carves bad to the right with perfect consistancy.
Sounds like the back tire is out of alignment.

.50 cal
11-10-2011, 07:27 PM
yah ur all right i am getting a little pissy srry all. it was wordy to try to be clear but just got muddled. The tire is a fight between Aprillia and pirelli with me in the middle, any advice about a machine i use to travel 180mph i take vary carefully and only go to the top of whats availble, hence here, not just the first guy i c behind a counter. And yes the best tips come from track side from the guys that know. That said a trained april teck and head of the local race team should be able to give better advice then come by saterday. i did get the bound right but rebound is always too stiff but idk the waight formulas. i c now my beef is less with Aprilia and more the other half, srry for the rant but if fired at i will fire back and only ask u post a piece of usefull info rather then shoot holes in the story.

xa-mont
11-10-2011, 07:30 PM
dude... use some punctuation. Paragraphs are incredibly useful at making a large body of text readable.

.50 cal
11-10-2011, 07:50 PM
Sounds like the back tire is out of alignment.

actully it was, the dealer mounted the tyre cockeyed by 1/2" then tried to play it off that all swingarms are warped by welding. true or not iv always used provided guides and never had any issues. but that was fixed with the replacement and problem continues. really its within aceptable peramiters but seems odd such a percision machine would be off by as much as it is.

xa-mont
11-10-2011, 07:57 PM
used provided guides

DONT.

measure from the swing arm pivot to the rear axel on both sides and ensure they are the same measurement.

get one of these if you want to be super acurate:
http://www.muzzys.com/WheelAlignment/WheelAlignmentTool.jpg

Rugbydawg13
11-10-2011, 08:06 PM
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fastmike
11-15-2011, 12:32 AM
WOW!!!! I wonder how he earned enough to pay cash? It certainly wasn't from writing or education!

Pete Gala
11-15-2011, 01:15 AM
Wow welcome to the forum man but you do need to break up your sentences a little, as it is very difficult to read that shit!

Either way, souds like you want to just set up the bike to perform for you so get the susspension setup right to you first, do this at a susspension specialist.

Then ride it to get the feeling right. Then also have a look at the 520 conversion upgrade. That seems to make many people happy on gearing.

Start there and try to right a little more legible.

Cheers.

wfo
11-15-2011, 06:00 AM
why is this clown getting so much air time?

bstar360
11-15-2011, 09:40 AM
He's a fu.king good spella.

slothfryk
11-15-2011, 01:05 PM
HOLY crap, the inner grammar nazi in me just turned over and sh!t bricks. Then my head exploded. Now I'm struggling to assemble a coherent thought.

Hey, Fitty-Cal, Sorry to rag on the writing, but it does help to clearly convey thoughts, and yes, folks around here are more than happy to help when we understand the concerns.

Aside from the rear wheel alignment, might I suggest taking a moment to evaluate body position and muscular tension during those moments on the right? I was working with a fellow V4-Factory owner on the track this weekend, and he was complaining about the weak steering dampener. The fact is that if you're wrenching the throttle wide open, there's a high likelihood that your right shoulder is tense as well. This would pull the bike to that side.

Food for thought and introspection.

ckruzel
11-15-2011, 01:20 PM
in all fairness, maybe english isn't his first language

MishMashRSV4
11-15-2011, 03:12 PM
DONT.

measure from the swing arm pivot to the rear axel on both sides and ensure they are the same measurement.

get one of these if you want to be super acurate:
http://www.muzzys.com/WheelAlignment/WheelAlignmentTool.jpg

Ive been looking for one of these! Your picture link provides my answer! Thanks!


in all fairness, maybe english isn't his first language

Yes, and neither is math. Paying Cash for an RSV4 is the capability of most in the world, since a Honda Civic costs the same amount. Not sure what his point there was...

jeffrey_lebowsk
11-15-2011, 04:12 PM
in all fairness, maybe english isn't his first language

according to his avatar he's from my neck of the woods, so it should be....

jokerio
11-15-2011, 04:15 PM
As far as the wheel alignment issue goes, I also noticed a big discrepancy in the chain adjusters, marked "guide lines". The first indication was when I took my hands off the bars, starts to veer-off to the right every time, (yes on flat ground). Turns out, the marks from the factory are, (or can be) way off!
The tool, (shown earlier) is the only way to go...
You could probably make one with a yardstick or something similar.
As far as grammar, I've been know to use way too many commas,.. and such.

zvez
11-15-2011, 04:17 PM
Yep, me too, I'm wondering, but it looks like on this particular one you'll have to pull the exhaust pipe to measure the right side as I don't think the shafts are long enough to clear

Ive been looking for one of these! Your picture link provides my answer! Thanks!



Yes, and neither is math. Paying Cash for an RSV4 is the capability of most in the world, since a Honda Civic costs the same amount. Not sure what his point there was...

MishMashRSV4
11-15-2011, 04:46 PM
Yep, me too, I'm wondering, but it looks like on this particular one you'll have to pull the exhaust pipe to measure the right side as I don't think the shafts are long enough to clear

I think your right...but essentially you could rig longer shafts if needed im thinking