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buckmaster
08-29-2011, 10:28 AM
cant go wrong with the price , they have a special going on now like 30$ off

plenty of power 14.5 volt , bike cranks ez ..

alienmotion.com

jgos929
08-29-2011, 11:25 AM
Nice and thats a hell of a deal

buckmaster
08-29-2011, 11:26 AM
Smoking Deal imo . Built well like a little optima ..

Eppy
08-29-2011, 11:33 AM
Alien motion?

I was just looking at those, You didn't go for the 12 cell? Track bike only?

buckmaster
08-29-2011, 11:35 AM
The 8 puts out all the power you need ...

Mostly road , some track ..

Eppy
08-29-2011, 11:37 AM
Got ya.

Going off "other" battery sites they suggested 12cell so I was just going with that.

Bike crank better with this one? I was told by a couple guys it makes a difference.

buckmaster
08-29-2011, 11:40 AM
Cranks great . Their site list the 8 for up to 1000cc

jgos929
08-29-2011, 02:57 PM
Judging from your pics the 12 might be to big or be a really tight fit.

hank
08-29-2011, 03:02 PM
The 8 cell is recommended for liter bikes.

Alien Motion is an excellent company and has been making these batteries for other people for a while. Now they sell them directly for themselves.

They are a good group of guys and even have a good history with racing Aprilias.

I posted a thread about them in the General section about a week or so ago.

Their introductory pricing offer is excellent!

buckmaster
08-29-2011, 03:03 PM
Hank it was your post that got me to buy ....

hank
08-29-2011, 03:09 PM
Hank it was your post that got me to buy ....

:cheers:

I bought 3 of the quick connect cables so I can easily swap the battery between bikes. But at the introductory price point, I probably should have just bought an additional battery...:p:

buckmaster
08-29-2011, 03:12 PM
Funny , when it came in the mail the box was so light I had no clue what it was until I opend it up..

L8RSK8R
08-29-2011, 03:22 PM
Ordering one now. :cheers:
I ordered the AM4 for 600cc, free shipping $59.99 :)
Is it necessary to purchase the re-charge kit also ?

ckruzel
08-29-2011, 06:33 PM
i have a full spectrum power battery

buckmaster
08-29-2011, 06:39 PM
Not sure what you paid for the spectrum but the alien is less than half the money & atleast from the case is a better made product ... Some competition to spectrum will bring their prices into reality ...

Hellgate
08-29-2011, 06:55 PM
Wow, that's a great price. I paid about $165 for an eight cell from Ballistic. They look identical.

L8RSK8R
08-29-2011, 07:10 PM
Answered my question nicely & very prompt too.

It is not necessary to purchase our charger, but we do recommend it. Our batteries are shipped charged, balanced and ready for use. Once installed normal usage should keep the battery charged from the bikes alternator. When not in use, the battery has a very slow discharge so it should start fine on your next race day. We have been using the same battery with no additional charge all this AMA season on a R6. Just make sure you do not have any external draw on the battery and it should be fine. Our chargers are designed for this type of cell chemistry and allows for a quick and safe charge to the battery. If you do use a standard charger, please follow the quidelines (included) for charging so that it will not affect your warranty. I hope that answers your questions.

Eppy
08-29-2011, 07:13 PM
wow, that's a great price. I paid about $165 for an eight cell from ballistic. They look identical.







alien motion is an excellent company and has been making these batteries for other people for a while. Now they sell them directly for themselves.
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Hellgate
08-29-2011, 07:30 PM
I just ordered up a four cell for my R6 track bike, 15oz, for $59.00. The eight cell for move to my FZ1.

L8RSK8R
08-29-2011, 07:40 PM
Pizza & double cheese burger's...yummy.

modulo_s
08-29-2011, 09:25 PM
just scooped one up ^_^

duff_boy
08-30-2011, 05:10 AM
Shipping to Aust. available?

Daryl RSV4R
08-30-2011, 08:42 AM
Anyone know the longest period of time this battery could go without being in use or needing a charge?

ckruzel
08-30-2011, 09:18 AM
Not sure what you paid for the spectrum but the alien is less than half the money & atleast from the case is a better made product ... Some competition to spectrum will bring their prices into reality ...

full spectrum is everywhere in the paddock, from what i have seen they hold up very well, what i paid for one?, well thats another story

buckmaster
08-30-2011, 09:20 AM
Hard to say , they said a battery tender will work fine if you have one ..

buckmaster
08-30-2011, 09:22 AM
full spectrum is everywhere in the paddock, from what i have seen they hold up very well, what i paid for one?, well thats another story


Hell you got it for free , prolly traded some decals ..:lol:

bstar360
08-30-2011, 10:13 AM
[QUOTE=L8RSK8R;2917093]Answered my question nicely & very prompt too.

Just make sure you do not have any external draw on the battery and it should be fine.

What about an immobilser, how will that go as far as draining the battery?
I know it's only a small load but?

Eppy
08-30-2011, 10:14 AM
Anyone know the longest period of time this battery could go without being in use or needing a charge?


I have a Mavirryk Design battery in my race bike and it sat INDOORS for 6 months after last use and fired the bike right up when I installed it.

If you leave it out in the cold it may be an issue.

.02

jgos929
08-30-2011, 10:16 AM
I just ordered mine. I have a Speedcell battery but I like trying other options.

slothfryk
08-30-2011, 12:48 PM
Hard to say , they said a battery tender will work fine if you have one ..

DO NOT USE A BATTERY TENDER.

Lithium Phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries can be damaged by trickle chargers. Do not use a normal lead-acid battery charger, the amperage isn't high enough. You need a charger capable of producing AT LEAST 5-6amps, and has voltage monitoring capability. I just bought a really good one, and am having great success with it.

The V4 has a security system, or immobilizer as Bstar360 mentions, that has a slight pull. I let my bike sit for a month and a half and my 8-cell (4s2p) didn't have the juice to start it. If you leave the battery plugged in too long, and the voltage drops below [some mysterious] point, the cells can be damaged, and will no longer hold a full charge. Usually a couple weeks downtime after long ride is doable. However, each time you start the engine, it takes approx. 20 min. of 'round town riding to recharge the battery. So if you're doing frequent start/stops, it might not be the battery for you, or use a 12 cell (4s3p)

Be sure to read Alien Motions own statement on charging (http://www.alienmotion.com/html/faq.html). They sell "their own" charger, but it has no user-input parameters. The one I picked up does something like 6 different chemistries and tons of configurations.

Daryl- the shelf life of these things is amazing at only a 5% nominal annual shelf-discharge rate. Unheard of in other chemistries. However, that's when completely disconnected. Even a Honda has an LCD clock that's kept running by the battery.

buckmaster
08-30-2011, 12:53 PM
You are right , I have looked @ so many different batteries I mis spoke about the battery tender ..

L8RSK8R
08-30-2011, 02:11 PM
Shipping to Aust. available?

Email: tech@alienmotion.com

jgos929
08-30-2011, 02:29 PM
Yeah you need just a plain ol battery charger you get from Sears or an auto parts store. Most have a 10/2amp setting. Just set it on 10 hook it up and let it sit for 15-20 minutes and battery should be as good as new.

ckruzel
08-30-2011, 02:56 PM
full spectrum sent me a charger with mine, i wired up the pigtail so it just sits in the tail under the cover, they said not to use a trickle charger also, just the ones they have, they charge differently or something

Daryl RSV4R
08-31-2011, 08:06 AM
Thanks for the replies Eppy and Slothfryk.

Eape
08-31-2011, 03:01 PM
Ordered the 8-cell. Hope it's enough.

buckmaster
08-31-2011, 03:06 PM
Seems fine on my bike , they asked if they could use the photos that I sent them of one in my bike for their facebook page ..

Eape
08-31-2011, 03:21 PM
Glad u posted pics. I've been waiting for someone to show what one of those batteries looked like on our bike. Note; pics sell.

buckmaster
08-31-2011, 03:23 PM
I agree ..

jgos929
08-31-2011, 05:31 PM
Buck are you using anything to keep it from bouncing around?

buckmaster
08-31-2011, 05:47 PM
I just cut two pieces of closed cell foam for the sides & cut a piece into an l shape for the hold down .. the one for the hold down certainly was not needed but since I was there kinda thing ..

jgos929
08-31-2011, 08:44 PM
Nice. I got some foam laying around I'll try that

Hellgate
08-31-2011, 10:11 PM
The battery sits within a block of foam within the packing it comes in. I just cut a slice of the foam off and jammed it between the battery and the battery box of my R6. The seat bottom doubles as the lid so the whole deal is in nice an tight.

aarfeldt
09-01-2011, 12:19 AM
cant go wrong with the price , they have a special going on now like 30$ off

plenty of power 14.5 volt , bike cranks ez ..

alienmotion.com

Looks very similar to Ballistic batteries (http://www.ballisticparts.com/products/batteries/8cell.php).

http://www.ballisticparts.com/products/batteries/images-battery/100-011-8cell13clip.jpg

Hyper
09-03-2011, 06:51 AM
I wonder why on the ballistic site they give the 8 cell for the v2 Aprilia and the 12 cell for the rsv4?

Aren't big twins supposed to be harder to start than 4 cil. , even v4 ones?

rx7tt95
09-03-2011, 08:27 AM
Yes, the V-twin is harder to start than the V4. I have an 8-cell (on my RSVR)which was adequate, but it almost left me stranded once. So I bought the 12-cell and there's no such issue. I think they have them reversed.


I wonder why on the ballistic site they give the 8 cell for the v2 Aprilia and the 12 cell for the rsv4?

Aren't big twins supposed to be harder to start than 4 cil. , even v4 ones?

L8RSK8R
09-03-2011, 05:10 PM
Damn, did I order the right battery? (07 ZX6R)
This thing is teenie.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47444830@N07/sets/72157627586008436/

Hellgate
09-03-2011, 05:42 PM
Got mine installed today. I move the eight cell Ballistic from the R6 to the FZ1. The 4 cell is so damn small, amazing. It has plenty of power and the bike cranks right up. I've got a track day Monday, I'm curious to see how it does in the heat.

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jgos929
09-03-2011, 11:29 PM
I installed my 8 cell today and the bike cranks quick. Nice battery

modulo_s
09-09-2011, 02:57 PM
been running my 8cell a couple days now. cranks good if the battery is charged. but just as sloth indicated the batt needs 20min from cranking to have a couple good cranks. any less and the batt will struggle to turn the motor. it may or may not start. this battery does not like short trips.

i live 7-10min from work and was lucky to get away with it yesterday. didn't start on first crank and needed to feed a little throttle the 2nd time to get it going. then as I was leaving forgot to put the kickstand up and killed the motor.. $&@!.. really had to open up the throttle the 3rd time as the batt struggled to crank it again. it started, but the clock reset back to 0:00 and the bike ran funny for a few minutes.

i'm still happy with my purchase though because the track handling benefits are a good trade off. even if I do end up having to put the standard battery back in(will see today when I leave work)and save the new one for track days. next and last modification is BST wheels. I'm eager to see what the total handling/fat loss is with the full Ti akra, batt, and BST's. hoping around 435-440 wet.

kinda wondering if the 6cell can crank the v4..

L8RSK8R
09-09-2011, 03:00 PM
I installed mine last night on ZX6R and bike had to turn over (sounded like) 4-5 times before startup. Heading to Willow Springs for the weekend and bringing the OEM Yuasa as a backup just incase.
Let's say my new A4 battery doesn't crank the bike when I get to track tomorrow can I bump start the bike without messing shit up?

Hellgate
09-09-2011, 06:32 PM
I installed mine last night on ZX6R and bike had to turn over (sounded like) 4-5 times before startup. Heading to Willow Springs for the weekend and bringing the OEM Yuasa as a backup just incase.
Let's say my new A4 battery doesn't crank the bike when I get to track tomorrow can I bump start the bike without messing shit up?

Mine worked like a champ on Monday. Funny, I brought my old battery as a back up too. If you need to bump it no big deal.

The eight cell has been working well in my FZ1 this week too.

Daryl RSV4R
09-09-2011, 11:42 PM
Just curious, are you guys that are replacing the OEM battery having problems starting the bike?

jgos929
09-10-2011, 02:07 PM
No not me. The bike has been sitting for a week and it fired right up this morning

L8RSK8R
09-11-2011, 11:57 PM
I had no issue's at all this weekend. When I 1st installed the battery it cranked a little longer than normal to fire up. Worked great at the track all weekend.
I installed an A4 in an 07 ZX6R.

Stretch
09-12-2011, 05:43 AM
We have a 4 cell in our SXV race bike for a year now and it has performed flawlessly. Once went about 7 weeks between races and the battery fired it right up. However it may be sluggish when it is cold (eg bike left on trailer overnight before a race end winter/spring) so either pour warm water over the battery to warm it up or repeatedly attempt to start the bike until the current draw warms the battery up internally enough to start the bike.

potere
02-02-2012, 12:46 AM
I've been pretty happy with the Alien Motion 8-cell after a few months but once in awhile it does weird stuff. The OEM Yuasa (or whatever it is) never did stuff like this. Today for example after filling up with gas after work, I try to start it and it turns a couple of times and quits. Try again, right? Motors warm so should go. Turns over a couple of times then quits. I turn the key off and wait 15 sec. Same thing. Finally on the 4th or 5th try it starts normally.

Yes I have checked the battery terminals, they are solidly attached. We will see what's what. Maybe it's cause Romney won in FL.

hank
02-02-2012, 09:12 AM
Before buying any lightweight battery, read these 2 threads:

A detailed primer on LiFePo Batteries
http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?242120-Lithium-Iron-Battery-Primer-(LiFePO4) (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?242120-Lithium-Iron-Battery-Primer-(LiFePO4))

Specific info on Alien Motion Batteries
(http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?240498-Alien-Motion-battery-info)http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?240498-Alien-Motion-battery-info