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duc73
07-26-2011, 09:10 PM
Just wondering if any one try 180/55/17 on the rsv4 ? they are so much cheaper and I go through allot of tyers .any input ? and I dont need to know the difference between 190 to 180 thanks .

jgos929
07-26-2011, 10:57 PM
Never tried one myself nor would I ever. The rim size is not the correct width for a 180. How exactly do you go through so many tires track or street? And from what I have seen there is only about a $20-25 difference between a 180/55 and a 190/55. That's not exactly a whole lotta money

colacin
07-26-2011, 11:14 PM
It's pretty easy to kill a set of tires in one weekend at the track so I can see the point from that perspective, but I think there are enough negatives not to run a 180/55.

amauri
07-26-2011, 11:35 PM
The rim size is not the correct width for a 180. How exactly do you go through so many tires track or street?

All RSVRs from 1999 - 2005 came fitted with a 180/55 as std on that 6" rim.
My 04 Nera came with a 180/55 and I actually prefer it over the 190/55 for everyday street use.

fastmike
07-26-2011, 11:43 PM
Just wondering if any one try 180/55/17 on the rsv4 ? they are so much cheaper and I go through allot of tyers .any input ? and I dont need to know the difference between 190 to 180 thanks .

If you don't care to hear the difference then why ask the question? Kinda like I'd like your opinion, but don't give me the answer!

fastmike
07-26-2011, 11:46 PM
Oh yeah, BTW WNFO!

jgos929
07-27-2011, 07:43 AM
All RSVRs from 1999 - 2005 came fitted with a 180/55 as std on that 6" rim.
My 04 Nera came with a 180/55 and I actually prefer it over the 190/55 for everyday street use.

Well hate to burst your bubble but a 180 on a 6" rim is not correct. Oh and we're talking about the RSV4 not the RSVR

We're talking about a bike that now comes standard with a 200 tire and last year came standard with either a 190 or 200 tire. Why consider putting on a 180? Sure there is nothing wrong with it, it won't make the bike explode but it's not the correct size for the bike.


You know what I say go for it bud. If $20-25 is a deal killer when it cones to tires then by all means get you a 180. After all it worked fine on 6yr old RSVR

buckmaster
07-27-2011, 07:56 AM
I love the 180/55 . If your running a rsv4 with traction control id say go for it .

If not id say if its not geared to low it would work great .
The rsv4 isnt that much of a power or torque monster

I know it a different bike but i perfered a 180 on my r1s & i had seven of them over the years . The bike was soooo much more flickable . never had a problem with traction either .

If you do decide to run one post some feedback .

amauri
07-27-2011, 10:24 AM
Well hate to burst your bubble but a 180 on a 6" rim is not correct. Oh and we're talking about the RSV4 not the RSVR

Not my buble to burst.

I'm just responding to your comment that a 180/55 is not correct for a 6" wide rim.

Aprilia feels it is correct and mounted it on their bikes with 6” rims for many years.
Also, according to specs listed on every m/c tire manufacture's catalogue, the acceptable rim widths for a 180/55 are both the 5.5" & 6.0"

Yes, for maximum performance on a high HP bike, the 190 is a better choice.
But the OP knows the difference between the 180 vs. 190 and was only asking if anyone has tried the narrower tire.

potere
07-27-2011, 10:49 AM
Amauri, I not only take notes on your technical contributions here, I take notes on how you maintain your composure.

zgriders
07-27-2011, 11:34 AM
Amauri, I not only take notes on your technical contributions here, I take notes on how you maintain your composure.

:plus::plus::plus:

jgos929
07-27-2011, 12:25 PM
Not my buble to burst.

I'm just responding to your comment that a 180/55 is not correct for a 6" wide rim.

Aprilia feels it is correct and mounted it on their bikes with 6 rims for many years.
Also, according to specs listed on every m/c tire manufacture's catalogue, the acceptable rim widths for a 180/55 are both the 5.5" & 6.0"

Yes, for maximum performance on a high HP bike, the 190 is a better choice.
But the OP knows the difference between the 180 vs. 190 and was only asking if anyone has tried the narrower tire.

You mean Aprilia felt it was the correct tire to mount on their bikes from 6+ years ago. Am I missing something here. Can things not change over a 6 year period of time? I'm sure they recommended a diferent oil brand or weight also back then but that doesn't make it ok for a bike thats 6yrs newer.

And if he knew the difference between the two would he be asking if anybody has "tried" it???


Amauri, I not only take notes on your technical contributions here, I take notes on how you maintain your composure.

Why wouldn't he be able to maintain his composure?. Nothing I said should upset him. We're having a friendly debate. Some of you other guys on here are just to sensitive thats all.

The guy goes through a lot of tires quick WHY I ask. If its out on the track why wouldn't he want the best performing correct size tire like Amauri pointed out? If he's burning through tires on the street than he is using the wrong tire altogether (track tire on the street), his air pressures are way to low or he has the highest mileage RSV4 out on the road.


By the way how is that shock install coming along?

ckruzel
07-27-2011, 01:53 PM
If he's burning through tires on the street than he is using the wrong tire altogether (track tire on the street),

huh? some people prefer grip over mileage

why is it wrong?

potere
07-27-2011, 03:21 PM
Why wouldn't he be able to maintain his composure?. Nothing I said should upset him. We're having a friendly debate. Some of you other guys on here are just to sensitive thats all.


Since you raise the question, I'll give my 2 cents. The only thing I'm sensitive to is gross misspelling, jgos! :gunner:

I enjoy a spirited discussion as most do. It's good to see people discuss with vigor and passion. There's another side to seeing others as too sensitive, which is being too aggressive, I think I've read some post of yours where you hint at that yourself. I used to be that way then realized people aren't nearly really interested in what you have to say when overly aggressive. They listen much more when you are tactful. Of course that does not necessarily mean when I'm driving that I have a tactful mouth when surrounded by asian drivers.. :) (look for that thread I started here, it's a good one)



By the way how is that shock install coming along?

I'll wait to install it, thanks for your answer on how to position the bike for a shock change. I want a full impression of the FGK214's that just went in the forks, first, so I can separate what each change did. However, I'm really getting close to that point because I'm tired of having my ass kicked by that damn excuse for a rear shock. Sachs, are you listening?? Well, wait now, they just sold Aprilia what Aprilia asked for, so Aprilia, are you listening? Siete ascoltando ragazzi??? :bond:

fastmike
07-27-2011, 04:56 PM
I think the better choice would be the 180/50 profile. Should be even cheaper, another $5 probably, plus the flatter profile will make the V4 handle like a dream.

Don't they make some Shinzo now for bikes. Even cheaper. Kinda like Nexen for cars.

ckruzel
07-27-2011, 05:13 PM
doesnt the 190/55 have the same profile of a 180 just wider, i actually like the 190's

duc73
07-27-2011, 06:01 PM
Never tried one myself nor would I ever. The rim size is not the correct width for a 180. How exactly do you go through so many tires track or street? And from what I have seen there is only about a $20-25 difference between a 180/55 and a 190/55. That's not exactly a whole lotta money

I can get brand new 180 race tire for 99 dallors front cheaper, the 190 the best they can do is 167 so my math is a lot !!!!!!!!!!

duc73
07-27-2011, 07:26 PM
thanks for the in put .

duc73
07-27-2011, 07:29 PM
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/146_0206_tire_size/index.html

Beau1K
07-27-2011, 07:43 PM
I for one am in the grip over mileage camp...when you run out of tire and grip and are sliding down the roadway faced with $1000's of dollars in repairs and a whole hell of a lot more in medical bills...possibly funeral bills...you will undoubtedly reconsider your decision to save $20 on rubber.

This follows with the primary reason I bought the Tuono. The Tuono was my first sport bike.

I wanted a bike that had incredible brakes to get me stopped as fast as possible, a motor that made power in any gear to get me out of a bad mistake no matter what gear I found myself in and handling that afforded me some extra lean angle if I needed to take emergency action to avoid impending disaster.

Adding another 10MM to the width of the tire is a cheap way to give you additional lean angle and grip. When you get back from a ride on a 180 you may have NO chicken strips...on a 190 you SHOULD have some...and I like that.

Jaguar
07-27-2011, 08:08 PM
When you get back from a ride on a 180 you may have NO chicken strips...on a 190 you SHOULD have some...and I like that.

Well that makes me feel better - I thought I was just being a wuss when I put a 190 on the RSVR and found I had a couple of little strips left after a good 2 day scratch in the hills.

buckmaster
07-27-2011, 08:34 PM
:peace:You should not be able to own a rsv4 if you cant scrub the tires properly !!!

Beau1K
07-27-2011, 08:39 PM
If you have NO chicken strips on the street you are probably pushing it a bit too hard and pushing your luck as well. :plus:

buckmaster
07-27-2011, 08:42 PM
Im kiddin , we have great roads here & lots of twisties . I live just 14 miles from deals gap so my tires were full scrubbed in within the first hour of riding..

duc73
07-27-2011, 09:40 PM
Im kiddin , we have great roads here & lots of twisties . I live just 14 miles from deals gap so my tires were full scrubbed in within the first hour of riding..

we come up 2 times year blood mt. good stuff

SoulDaddy
07-28-2011, 12:44 AM
If you have NO chicken strips on the street you are probably pushing it a bit too hard and pushing your luck as well. :plus:

Balderdash! I have a 190, it has no chicken strips and I don't overpush it on the street -- I just like to lean! :p::p::p:

ckruzel
07-28-2011, 12:53 AM
Balderdash! I have a 190, it has no chicken strips and I don't overpush it on the street -- I just like to lean! :p::p::p:

:plus: