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abarth
08-08-2010, 07:49 PM
Did I missed something?

http://www.serviceaprilia.com/public/lumAprilia/index.asp?l=Dorsoduro%201200

eskander
08-08-2010, 08:51 PM
there is a Shiver 1200 coming too it seems

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2008/04/aprilia-to-launch-1200cc-dorso.html

hackbenjamin
08-08-2010, 09:00 PM
I heard Triumph is coming out with 800,1200cc adventure series bikes ~october or so to compete with the dorso/shiver/type bikes ... this is probably Aprilias answer.

CessnaTPA
08-08-2010, 09:46 PM
Awesome! I hope it's true this time, I've been waiting for the 1200 for awhile. :banana:

kevxtx
08-08-2010, 10:23 PM
Looks like it is true.

» Workshop Manuals - Provisional Drafts
Provisional workshop manuals for vehicles entering production (manual still being modified or completed). Relative multiple level format wiring diagrams are also included

Choose the Model Axone Dorsoduro 1200


> Dorsoduro 1200 < Dimensions Latest update
» Dorsoduro_1200_esquema eléctrico.pdf 0.5 MB 05/08/2010
» Dorsoduro_1200_greek wiring diagram.pdf 0.5 MB 05/08/2010
» Dorsoduro_1200_schaltplan.pdf 0.5 MB 05/08/2010
» Dorsoduro_1200_schema electrique.pdf 0.5 MB 05/08/2010
» Dorsoduro_1200_schema elettrico.pdf 2.7 MB 05/08/2010
» Dorsoduro_1200_wiring diagram.pdf 0.5 MB 05/08/2010

09Dorso
08-08-2010, 11:32 PM
Crap, I just bought the 750 three weeks ago. I probably should have waited.

Grug
08-09-2010, 12:48 AM
there is a Shiver 1200 coming too it seems

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2008/04/aprilia-to-launch-1200cc-dorso.html

That was posted back in 2008, the 1200cc rumours have been around since the bikes first appeared. Would be great if they do arrive, but I wouldn't hold out too much hope. I doubt Aprilia are moving enough of the bikes to warrant much further investment in them.

kevxtx
08-09-2010, 12:51 AM
That was posted back in 2008, the 1200cc rumours have been around since the bikes first appeared. Would be great if they do arrive, but I wouldn't hold out too much hope. I doubt Aprilia are moving enough of the bikes to warrant much further investment in them.

My source of info is directly from the Aprilia factory, no idea when they will arrive.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa202/kevxtx/1200DD.png

abarth
08-09-2010, 03:09 AM
There is technical specification in user manual that I posted the link.

From the included picture it looks 99% same like 750 except clutch cover, oil cooler, black lower frame. Also there is new start stop switch and some extra data on display. And most important improvement Fuel capacity (reserve included) 15 l (3.30 UK gal; 3.96 USgal).

Model M555M
Type 90° longitudinal V-twin, 4-stroke, 4
valves per cylinder, 2 overhead camshafts.
Number of cylinders 2
Total engine capacity 1197 cm³ (73.05 cu.in)
Bore / stroke 106 x 67.8 mm (4.17 x 2.67 in)
Compression ratio 12.0 : 1

Max. length 2248 mm (88.19 in)
Max. width (at hand guards) 925 mm (36.42 in)
Max. height 1205 mm (47.44 in)
Saddle height 870 mm (34.25 in)
Wheelbase 1528 mm (60.16 in)
Kerb weight 223 kg (492 lb)
Dry weight (unfuelled) 212 kg (467 lb)

DownUnderDorso
08-09-2010, 05:50 AM
Interesting Stuff ! Here's some other observations:

Item : 1200 ABS v 750
Dry Weigth : 212kgs v 196kgs (non-abs)
Wheelbase: 1528mm v 1505mm
Steering Inclination: 27.3' v 25.8'
Trial: 118mm v 108mm
Fuel Tank: 15 v 12 ltrs
Primary Drive: 40/69 v 38/71
Gear Ratios: same
Final Drive: 16/40 v 16/46


also:
- Remote fluid res on Clutch & Brake Masters.
- Front Brake lines now route infront of forks tubes
- lower fork/axle knuckles are different (bigger)

Strada_Stu
08-09-2010, 06:16 AM
From the included picture it looks 99% same like 750 except black lower frame. Also there is new start stop switch

The 2010 Shiver with new style fairings has that new starter switch and the black lower frames are on the Dorsod Factory.

Exciting news that there is a 1200 definatly coming.

Bigralphie
08-09-2010, 07:04 AM
Wonder if aftermarket cans would swap over

Strada_Stu
08-09-2010, 07:33 AM
Wonder if aftermarket cans would swap over

I hope so. You'd hope they haven't changed any of that between the 750 and 1200 to keep costs down.

Cos_S
08-09-2010, 01:06 PM
I will be ecstatic if a) the tank for the 1200 is 15l and b) it can be fitted on the 750. Ecstatic i tell ya.

mwjd58
08-09-2010, 06:08 PM
No mention of a Shiver?? ... getting a complex here, between the no-show of a Shiver Factory, and now no 1200.
:WTF:

Strada_Stu
08-10-2010, 02:35 AM
No mention of a Shiver?? ... getting a complex here, between the no-show of a Shiver Factory, and now no 1200.
:WTF:

I think the Dorsoduro has been a much bigger seller volume wise for Aprilia, so I presume they are releaseing that bike as the 1200 first.
I bet the Shiver 1200 will follow soon enough.

burty
08-29-2010, 04:22 AM
I know I don't need it. But more and more I have been thinking about this 1200 dd. If it does come, it'd be just the right time to replace my Shiver I think. I can't really see any benefit of the Shiver over the DD, other than tank range, if the 1200 dd has a decent range it might just do me.

It needs to be capable on the motorway and also in heavy traffic in town though, and capable of a 65 mile a day commute in all weathers.

Here's hoping....

DesertGoon
08-30-2010, 05:04 AM
if there is a new bike with a bigger engine (but same chasis/design), do we really need it? i personally don't need a higher capacity shiver for my riding needs... doesn't a bigger engine lead to a higher consumption? :rolleyes:

maxpower220
08-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Higher fuel consumption, higher insurance rates, higher mphs with higher ticket costs (or jail time).

burty
08-30-2010, 02:47 PM
do we really need it?

No.

Not the point though is it?

keithc
08-31-2010, 04:11 AM
Well its been in Motorcycle news so it must be true :)
Bigger tank would be useful if it fits the 750, but looking at Aprilia prices maybe no an option.

Keith C

abarth
08-31-2010, 04:37 AM
I think that DD 1200 with 15l tank will have less range than 750 with 12l tank.

DesertGoon
08-31-2010, 06:06 AM
No.

Not the point though is it?

yes for some, and no for some others. :)

REMEtech
08-31-2010, 02:24 PM
i dont think it is for the top speed, i think it is more for torque and acceleration...

johnny_boy02
08-31-2010, 03:19 PM
Dosent matter for me since its not coming to the U.S. I would enjoy the extra power and adjustable suspension though.

burty
08-31-2010, 04:24 PM
Dosent matter for me since its not coming to the U.S. I would enjoy the extra power and adjustable suspension though.

Why's that then?

keithc
08-31-2010, 05:02 PM
Because the yanks cant be trusted with a bike with that much power :)

Keith C

lanter
08-31-2010, 05:56 PM
:funnypost

hackbenjamin
08-31-2010, 06:00 PM
Dosent matter for me since its not coming to the U.S. I would enjoy the extra power and adjustable suspension though.

Is it really not coming to the US? say it isn't soooo!

johnny_boy02
08-31-2010, 06:12 PM
Why's that then?


Is it really not coming to the US? say it isn't soooo!

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/08/aprilia-dorsoduro-1200-leaks-in-owners-manual/

hackbenjamin
08-31-2010, 06:15 PM
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/08/aprilia-dorsoduro-1200-leaks-in-owners-manual/

ooOOOOoohhh. weak!

They want to milk the sales of the 750 for a little longer ... kind of like what blizzard is doing with DiabloIII and starcraftII :-P

that sux.:crybaby:

CessnaTPA
08-31-2010, 06:37 PM
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/08/aprilia-dorsoduro-1200-leaks-in-owners-manual/

How do we know this is true? That was just someone posting a comment.

johnny_boy02
08-31-2010, 06:40 PM
How do we know this is true? That was just someone posting a comment.

This part...

"Update: The Dorsoduro is coming, but not to the US. Here’s the official word from Piaggio: We are extremely pleased with the sales of the Dorsoduro 750 and do not plan on importing the 1200 at this time."

CessnaTPA
08-31-2010, 06:48 PM
This part...

"Update: The Dorsoduro is coming, but not to the US. Here’s the official word from Piaggio: We are extremely pleased with the sales of the Dorsoduro 750 and do not plan on importing the 1200 at this time."

You talking about the post by TWINME? Did piaggio really say that? From what I understand they haven't even officially revealed the new 1200 yet.

johnny_boy02
08-31-2010, 06:58 PM
No I didnt even read the posts, I quoted the second paragraph of the article.

CessnaTPA
08-31-2010, 07:22 PM
No I didnt even read the posts, I quoted the second paragraph of the article.

I hope that's just a vicious rumor hell for leather is spreading because if not that just sucks ass!
I'm still not convinced it's true, are there any other sources to back this up? I don't understand what advantage it would be for aprilia not to bring it to the USA? :WTF:

I've been patiently waiting for the 1200 for more than a year to come out. If this turns out to be true I'm not waiting any more and buying a Ducati 1200.

johnny_boy02
08-31-2010, 07:29 PM
No other sources, I just read that today.

Ducati 1200? Multistrada then? Great bike.

ensign_crusher
08-31-2010, 07:34 PM
I hope that's just a vicious rumor hell for leather is spreading because if not that just sucks ass!
I'm still not convinced it's true, are there any other sources to back this up? I don't understand what advantage it would be for aprilia not to bring it to the USA? :WTF:

I've been patiently waiting for the 1200 for more than a year to come out. If this turns out to be true I'm not waiting any more and buying a Ducati 1200.

Sorry dude, that's the official word straight from Aprilia USA HQ.

rsvnige
08-31-2010, 07:54 PM
Regardless of top speed it'll make doing this easier.!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/rsvnige/DORSOWHEELIE.jpg

CessnaTPA
08-31-2010, 07:55 PM
No other sources, I just read that today.

Ducati 1200? Multistrada then? Great bike.

Yeah the Multistrada, I test rode one and really liked it, lots of power, very comfortable and has gotten alot of good reviews.
My game plan was to wait for the release of the aprilia 1200 and then make my decision on which one to buy. But it appears aprilia has made that decisions for me. :crowbar:

johnny_boy02
08-31-2010, 08:00 PM
Honestly I think the Ducati will be the better bike. And I have been seeing some pretty good prices on them while you would be stuck paying "new model" prices for the Aprilia.

Have you tried the Monster 1100 yet? Its a nice bike as well.

CessnaTPA
08-31-2010, 08:49 PM
Honestly I think the Ducati will be the better bike. And I have been seeing some pretty good prices on them while you would be stuck paying "new model" prices for the Aprilia.

Have you tried the Monster 1100 yet? Its a nice bike as well.

You're probably right and the fact I no longer have a aprilia dealer selling motorcycles within 4 hrs of me. But I would of been willing to deal with that if I had liked it better.

johnny_boy02
08-31-2010, 08:56 PM
4 hours is a heck of a trip with a broken bike. I really likemy shiver but they seem to have a decent amount of problems. My closest dealer is about an hour from me and that is about the limit I am comfortable with.

A Ducati dealership around here has a new old style multi in the bright white with Ohlins and a few other nice bits. They are pretty much giving it away.

burty
09-01-2010, 01:21 AM
This part...

"Update: The Dorsoduro is coming, but not to the US. Here’s the official word from Piaggio: We are extremely pleased with the sales of the Dorsoduro 750 and do not plan on importing the 1200 at this time."

The us is always a year behind europe anyway. As the bike wont be available in europe for another year yet, it could be that 'at this time' is just the normal schedule.

johnny_boy02
09-01-2010, 02:05 AM
The us is always a year behind europe anyway. As the bike wont be available in europe for another year yet, it could be that 'at this time' is just the normal schedule.


Could be. Maybe they are trying to thin the 750 stock before sending the 1200's, the market here is small.