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Dom.C
05-15-2010, 12:14 PM
I want to hear and see more of this engine/bike you have going.

Pretty please :D

MORK63UK
05-15-2010, 02:54 PM
I need a doner bike now :(

My lads RS 50 was murdered by a neighbour reversing into it

the frame is cracked and its' been CAT B'd

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/29032010094sml.jpg

So if anyone has a bike sat in their garage needing a engine I could be interested :)

No one would buy this for what we have in it :) wouldn't sell it anways I think..

Not run yet, let alone run in!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/26032010085sml.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/26032010086.jpg

RS_Patrick
05-15-2010, 09:45 PM
If someone backed up into it isnt that an insurance matter than?

MORK63UK
05-16-2010, 03:55 AM
Yup, matter for the insurance.. but we still need a bike to put it in :)
they have made a part 'without prejudice and without acknowledging liability' payment. So now we have to sort out compensation ETC that is the part that will take the time :)

Ideally I would like to buy an RS with a fooked motor I.E cheaper than full bike 'my son turns 17 in a week' We could just buy a 125 but we have that nice unrun motor. We had planned to run his RS as an 80 while he made his mind up about a car.

This incident threw a spanner in the works and now has given us a bit of a dilema :)

Buy a near mint RS/Derbi 50 and waste money....

Sell the engine for nowhere near what it cost and don't see the pleasure bit.

Use his 'not yet 16' brothers SR50 Replicab, buy a car and wait for the right RS/Derbi 50 to turn up and then put the engine in that, ride it for a bit and sell it. Most likely option... We'll see!

We bought the SR as a 'not as described basket case'. The ad read ' needs a stand' not needs crankcase! it was an 03 used for the first months of its life and then garaged. I expected to clean the carb put a battery on etc and it to at least run... not a chance. In fairness to the bloke we bought it from, he did refund quite a bit of cash so it cost 215 but that as we all know was just the start :)

25 DVLA log book
20 used crankcase (it was a full bottom end from a Suzuki AY50 but I just used the right hand side)
20 bearings and seals
20 Gaskets
20 used final drive (splines fooked)
35 polini variator (the standard rollers were aged and the motor in pieces)
75 Leo vince
00 17.5mm carb (ex RS 50) only what the later SR's are on
00 Battery (ex RS50)
15 Maunal choke conversion
84 Avon tyres, Ferodo pads. Stand springs, 5 spark plugs 'to plug chop it'.
20 used Headlight
12 used front mudguard
10 seat
10 odd bits n bobs. Converted centre stand to sit on shouldered bolts and binned that crappy steel pin that rusts in.
30 Mot
15 tax
5 L plate kit.

So..for just over 600 we have a nice 'known to us' tidy 'yeah okay there are marks on the body work but not broken' SR50 Replica. Better to do it this way than spend 4/5/600 on one that needs more spending on it too :)

The RS project is just on hold but it will be back.. I could repair the frame and use it on the track..

Dom.C
05-16-2010, 05:42 AM
Ah fair enough.

Any sneeky pictures of the 'zaust port? It's ported if I remember correctly?

andy_edw
05-16-2010, 04:39 PM
My mate has new shape gpr50 its pretty fucked though, he wants 200 for it..

xXxKillDogxXx
05-19-2010, 01:24 PM
Hi im just wondering where u got them Pipes and bolts for the engine from as i wanna get some red pipes and bolts for my engine just not sure where to look to really? could u tell me ?

MORK63UK
05-30-2010, 03:10 PM
Got the bike for the engine..2008 with only 200 miles on it :)

So when we sell it on it will have choice of motors for the next owner and save the parents the worry of buying a shed :) It is like brand new!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/30052010183.jpg

Might have it ready for the Adrenalin Scarborough run in September...

andy_edw
05-30-2010, 08:02 PM
How much was that? :O

MORK63UK
05-31-2010, 03:10 AM
a few quid but also bought a spains number one needing a rear wheel and a bit of a tidy that one will be available for sale in the future.

The spains will be sold with new chain, sprockets, tyres and had 560 dealer engine rebuild (so I'll check it) in December without doing many miles after it. This was because the rear wheel had been assembled wrong, effectively destroying bearing housing on one side. I will sell it close to the standard set up, 11t front 17.5mm carb but possibly with the Gianelli pipe from the accident bike as the pipe was new. I will set it up with the 21mm carb too; and that with a few different front sprockets 12/13 fronts could be included. That should please the new owner and their parents. At least they get to start with a bike that will run fine when they get it and run better when they're ready for the upgrade and without the hassle many of us have :)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/30052010184.jpg

Dom.C
05-31-2010, 06:27 AM
Hi im just wondering where u got them Pipes and bolts for the engine from as i wanna get some red pipes and bolts for my engine just not sure where to look to really? could u tell me ?

PM Tuning do them.

Lookin good anyway mate.

andy_edw
05-31-2010, 10:42 AM
Would you be interested in selling the Gianelli pipe?

RS_Patrick
05-31-2010, 01:29 PM
PM Tuning do them.

Lookin good anyway mate.


Are those reall Ergal/AircraftAluminium (same stuff as Maglight flashlights) or Imitation?


Imitation ones (aluminium) are really something you dont want to use on an engine as you can not torque them and they deform wen you tighten them, unthread, bolthead turns trough, or they snap off much much more easy then original bolts.
Deforming is the bigest problem because even if you manage to tighten them up corectly on an engine part wen the engine gets hot and cools the bolts deform severly.
I even seem bikes come in the workshop with them broken/snapped off due to that.

Oh and they corode solid if you dont use copper/silvergrease on them.


Anyway verry nice bike Mork!
btw, the Tailpipe on that exhaust looks thicker then normal, do you know what pipe that is? looks like a specail 70cc+ pipe to me...

MORK63UK
05-31-2010, 04:22 PM
the bolts are up to the job :) they have been supplied by tasty nuts, the hose from ebay.

Thanks, we like the bike too.

The bike we bought needing a tidy up will get the motor from the crashed bike. Turns out the same dealer supplied this as the bike I had the balance shaft issue with, this one has no return on the gear lever. oh well looks 10 times better already :)

mcglynn
05-31-2010, 09:54 PM
Are those reall Ergal/AircraftAluminium (same stuff as Maglight flashlights) or Imitation?


Imitation ones (aluminium) are really something you dont want to use on an engine as you can not torque them and they deform wen you tighten them, unthread, bolthead turns trough, or they snap off much much more easy then original bolts.
Deforming is the bigest problem because even if you manage to tighten them up corectly on an engine part wen the engine gets hot and cools the bolts deform severly.
I even seem bikes come in the workshop with them broken/snapped off due to that.

Oh and they corode solid if you dont use copper/silvergrease on them.


Anyway verry nice bike Mork!
btw, the Tailpipe on that exhaust looks thicker then normal, do you know what pipe that is? looks like a specail 70cc+ pipe to me...

the pipes on the standard new shapes are all thick at the end but they have some sort of inner pipe in them.
think its to add that superbike look

MORK63UK
06-01-2010, 12:31 AM
Would you be interested in selling the Gianelli pipe?

The pipe will be being used on the spains n01 we're finishing

RS_Patrick
06-01-2010, 12:41 AM
the pipes on the standard new shapes are all thick at the end but they have some sort of inner pipe in them.
think its to add that superbike look


Nice for condensation and corrotion than between the inner and outerpipe.

mcglynn
06-01-2010, 07:28 AM
Nice for condensation and corrotion than between the inner and outerpipe.

yep, other than that, absolutely pointless :)

MORK63UK
06-20-2010, 03:07 PM
well, we got it in today and it started first crack!

what a difference. sounds like a KX :)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/20062010234.jpg

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http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/20062010239.jpg

andy_edw
06-20-2010, 07:33 PM
Kool, im abit lost though,ur son is 17 now isn't he? surely hes not going to want to ride that when he can have a 125/400?

mcglynn
06-21-2010, 07:01 AM
their quite quick surprisingly andy, i reckon with gearing changed they'd pull indicated 80mph easy with that setup.

More in fact.

I know someone with mhr setup, 21mm carb, and mhr pipe with close to standard gearing, maybe one up on the front? and his clock is indicating 72mph.

mcglynn
06-21-2010, 07:03 AM
oh and mork, get a video of it running PLEASE. :)

Dom.C
06-21-2010, 07:27 AM
Very nice.

andy_edw
06-21-2010, 08:34 AM
oh and mork, get a video of it running PLEASE. :)

i know, but i swear hes brought like 5 RS50s lol,guess he just likes fixing them up

MORK63UK
06-21-2010, 02:08 PM
Kool, im abit lost though,ur son is 17 now isn't he? surely hes not going to want to ride that when he can have a 125/400?

:) all down to finances and timing, cheaper insurance with the 80. Got the wife's 600 bandit ready for when he passes his test.

We set out to build a stop gap project not wanting to spend 1000's on a 125 and it's insurance, sadly the bike the motor was destined for was written off. We planned to buy a replacement with the insurance money so we we're back to square one!

Our intention was to get the spains just tidy enough to sell but I went beyond that :) and really I could/should have just put the engine in that.
The white RS with only 216 miles tuned up and thats what got the motor :)

Who ever buys the spains will be getting an nice bike with the usual bugs sorted :)

I have two spare motors, both standard one with 700 miles on it after a rebuild (it's 3rd one) but done 4,500 total and a 216 mile one.

I think we could offer a spare motor with each bike when we decide to sell :)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/15062010219sml.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/06062010206.jpg

6250 miles

will work on the video

Dom.C
06-21-2010, 02:10 PM
I hope the little scrote who buys your bikes actually appreciates the amount of work that has been put in and the attention to detail lol :happy:

MORK63UK
06-21-2010, 02:10 PM
Very nice.

thank you

MORK63UK
06-21-2010, 02:12 PM
i know, but i swear hes brought like 5 RS50s lol,guess he just likes fixing them up

It was 3 ;)

Case of having to like fixing them hehehehe, to be fair; it was reliable a side of crap main stealer assy error and collision damage

Dom.C
06-21-2010, 02:35 PM
thank you

Is that a full Malossi system I spy?

How does it sound/run?

They do a Malossi pipe for my bike, very similar end can and it sounds pretty sweet.

MORK63UK
06-21-2010, 03:28 PM
The Malossi is on the White one yes, the Giannelli is on the spain's the expansion chambers look indentical but I'm told they're different? might be a tardis inside ;)

Just the end cans are different.

A few bits to share, I asked Dellorto about modifying the carb to take an oil nozzle and told them I had one from the 17.5 mm carb. I was told this was good enough and to mount it on the engine side of the slide. I had to cut back the outer casing on the cable to allow enough free length before I could connect it to the throttle slide. I had to buy the conversion kit so the carb could be adapted to use the handle bar operated choke lever. there's too much free cable for the choke and the angled extension from the 17.5mm carb has to be retained.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/21062010241-1.jpg

mcglynn
06-22-2010, 11:28 AM
what carb is it? the 26mm one?

MORK63UK
06-22-2010, 12:09 PM
yup 26mm

MORK63UK
07-03-2010, 12:04 PM
Anyone elses silver vwheels changed colour after cleaning them? :)

ours have gone green/gold and shine like chrome on the rim in the sun.. I wasn't happy at first but the effect is growing on us :)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/03072010243sml.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/03072010246sml.jpg

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http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/mork63uk/03072010244sml.jpg

Aidy.
07-03-2010, 01:51 PM
my mates silver wheels have gone a light greenish colour, but not as bad as that. i wonder what it is. :S

Dom.C
07-03-2010, 01:59 PM
I wonder why that's happened?

RS_Patrick
07-03-2010, 04:35 PM
What did you use to clean it with?

Keep in mind the silver rims are not clear alumium, there laquered, using aluminium polish or something on them could cause this.

andy_edw
07-03-2010, 06:55 PM
They don't look good atall, i use WD40 for my wheels

Thanatos
07-03-2010, 10:31 PM
Hey MORK63UK , I'm not a big fan of chemistry, but I am pretty sure your rims got verdigrised. This phenom consists in a green pigment obtained through the application of acetic acid to copper plates or the natural patina formed when copper, brass or bronze is weathered and exposed to air or seawater over a period of time.

Just my two bits here...I'd suggest you have those rims repainted

Cheers!

MORK63UK
07-04-2010, 02:24 AM
Cleaned them the same as the blues ones washed and polished with Autoglym wax. Its almost as if the wheels were gold then flashed over with silver exhaust paint.

I know it's not just Aluminum ;) I think I have enough experience to identify paint and bare metal.

Totally familiar verdigrised 'copper pipes etc' and its not that. The finish on the grren/gold colour is very good almost like a batch of wheels were repainted silver, maybe...

It's not two years old yet, I might ask our local dealer to see if Aprilia will spring for powder coating them.

The colour does grow on you though. I'm not bothered about them being silver to be honest and its not idleitis either, I think you know removing the wheels and tyres isn't that big a deal to do

Thanatos
07-04-2010, 03:10 AM
Yup, powder coating them should be the best thing to do :) Good luck!

MORK63UK
07-11-2010, 08:30 AM
Well we're leaving the wheels as they are. My sons mates have seen then now and not that he needed approval, my son wants to keep them as they are :)

It's now on the road, well both the RS's :devil: The spain's is on 11t front sprocket and still pulls an indicated 55mph and I'm 16st :) The 80 has been run in for a few hours and not been thrashed yet, but it lazily kept with the spain's hardly making an effort :)

The spain's will be up for sale soon as I can find a replacement RH faring or the paint arrives :) I have repaired the broken bits and to be fair its a reasonable job. The chances of buying a good panel for reasonable money seems a bit remote so I may offer as if and adjust the price... :)

Nedry
07-16-2010, 09:52 PM
Kool, im abit lost though,ur son is 17 now isn't he? surely hes not going to want to ride that when he can have a 125/400?

I'm 25 and would love that! The Triumph was my first 'street' bike and while it is a wonderful bike, a liter bike is not what is really needed. To me an ultra-lightweight bike with a small engine is infinitely more fun than a high output 600/1000.

My wife and I were talking about this today and how the US is so screwed up compared to the other countries in this regard. Instead of offering lots of low output lightweight bikes for people to learn on, we stick them on 600/1000's out of the gate and hope to thin out the population a bit... I don't want government restrictions saying 'no you can't have this or that', I just want the option to choose a small engine bike and it be an affordable alternative to jumping into a 600cc bike or falling down into a scooter. The only real small output bike we have hear is the Ninja 250r, after that you get into the 600's or the 650 V-twins. The Ninja 500r is no different from the 250 other than a bit more grunt and a face only a mother could love.

Edit: What wash did you use for the wheels? There is nothing wrong with your wax selection but cleaning of the wheels should be done with the same soap that one would use on the body of the bike. Items like Degreaser, SimpleGreen or 'Power' cleaners will damage paint and can cause discoloration as you described. I saw a set of $5,000 wheels ruined on a friend's Nissan Z because an inexperienced detailer used too aggressive of a cleaner and it damaged the paint and even scored the polished aluminum.

Westbye
07-17-2010, 04:59 PM
Hello there, awesome motor you got there! Would you mind telling me where you got those screws and hoses for the engine? I have to bring my bike in for control, so I will have to take the cylinders and so on off, but when I put them back on again I was thinking of making my motor a little sweeter with some new screws and so on. :)