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rsvandy
01-27-2010, 02:38 PM
Hi Chaps, just switched forums.....2003 Tuono going and being replaced by a 2008 Factory this weekend.

Only mod I'm looking at doing is a replacement screen, what's the concensus and best options?

More into sports riding than touring so would not want a tall flip type?

Also, the bike comes with a set of Akra's and set to Map 2 - is everyone who's running this set up happy? or would it benefit with a PCIII?

Cheers in advance.

Andy

Shovelstrokeed
01-27-2010, 03:24 PM
I've got the Akra's and map2 on my '07 Factory and I'm really happy with them. The bike is a bit rich in the lower regions but not enough so it burbles. Throttle response is superb. If fuel consumption was a concern, you might want a PCIII to cut back the fueling a bit there. We didn't buy these bikes to do economy runs anyway so I don't worry about it.

I had an add on screen on mine and took it off and went back to the factory setup. I've been looking at the OEM tall screen as an alternative but I'm pretty comfy up to 100 or so with just the fly screen so probably will save the dosh for some other bits.

sailfast
01-27-2010, 03:48 PM
Hi
I have had an 08 Factory for 15months now with 6k on it. I too decided on a bigger screen and managed to get an Aprilia larger version for 40 which was reduced in price but still expensive. It's about 2" taller than standard and does make a difference at high speed. I am 6'. There is plenty of info on here on alternative screens.
Other mods on mine include Akras and 15t front sprocket.. which a lot of people recommend...and after 5k I took the plunge and put it on the dyno installed a PC3 and freer breathing filter. With the Akras re map and 15t the power delivery is transformed.. with the PC3 I can only describe the power delivery as absolutely superb. There is a down side, apart from the expense the petrol consumption is even worse than standard but I didn't buy the Aprilia with economy in mind. The only other mod was to get the bike properly set up for my weight (13 stone). HM Racing in Kent are an Ohlins and tuning specialist and they did the work. They adjusted everything to suit me and changed the rear spring which was a bit too stiff. The handling, already good, is now sublime. It depends entirely on what sort of riding you do but I would say, that for me, this was the single most worthwhile improvement after the 15t and Akras and re map. If you like track days and fast road riding you will notice a difference.
The PC3 was the very expensive icing on the cake. I have ridden and owned a lot of motorcycles over the years and the Tuono is the most involving of the lot. It makes me smile everytime I go for a ride and is a lot more versatile than many people would imagine.

Beverz
01-27-2010, 04:48 PM
Where you from dude. I too have been to HM racing in the past and live Around 10 miles from there:cheers:

rkidscd001
01-27-2010, 04:56 PM
Guys, if you dont mind taking 5 minutes to type it out, could you please explain the differnts maps and PCIII that you metion? Are these possible to program via my laptop and required software or is this a dealer only service?

Thank you!

Craig.

sailfast
01-27-2010, 05:38 PM
Beverz I live near Bromley, The HM Racing I used is in Green St Green
Craig, I am a luddite and can't copy the before and after stuff but will dig out the details tomorrow and let you know the figures.
Others may know different but I don't think you can fit a PC3 effectively unless you can access a Dyno and that's why it can work out expensive as they spend quite a bit of time tuning it incrementally on Dyno runs throughout the rev range. Forgot to mention it also shags your rear tyre so best do it prior to changing. The power delivery now is v smooth but verging on mental! Result!!!

sailfast
01-27-2010, 05:52 PM
Sorry, to be clear I got the dealer to re map when I had the Akras fitted, simple job does not require a Dyno.The map is already one of the programmes available with the machine and just needs to be accessed.
Completely different issue and process to a PC3 fitment.

dallascat
01-27-2010, 07:50 PM
Only mod I'm looking at doing is a replacement screen, what's the concensus and best options?

Andy
I bought a ermax screen from a fellow member... practically like new. I do like the look of the stock better, but with the ermax I can now ride 80-90 without any problems. with the stock I felt a great deal of pressure on my chest and helmet above 80.
If you search this forum you should find plenty of info on other options...
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w48/TexasS3/Tuono/IMG_0325.jpg

Jeff U
01-27-2010, 08:16 PM
Congrats! :cheers:

Even though we all know what it looks like, you must post a photo!

Velociraptor
01-28-2010, 02:17 PM
The only other mod was to get the bike properly set up for my weight (13 stone). HM Racing in Kent are an Ohlins and tuning specialist and they did the work. They adjusted everything to suit me and changed the rear spring which was a bit too stiff. The handling, already good, is now sublime.

I had heard the stock spring on the ohlins was ok for a rider of about 180lbs,
I am about to buy an ohlins myself and weigh about that in my gear, I don't fancy paying all that money then having to start changing the spring as well:pissed:.
Is there anyone else of this weight running an ohlins with stock spring and if so how do you find it?

Brian

pizzadude
01-28-2010, 02:53 PM
I had heard the stock spring on the ohlins was ok for a rider of about 180lbs,
I am about to buy an ohlins myself and weigh about that in my gear, I don't fancy paying all that money then having to start changing the spring as well:pissed:.
Is there anyone else of this weight running an ohlins with stock spring and if so how do you find it?

Brian

I had my dealer set me up on my T-Factory w/ standard Ohlins rear spring. I weigh in about 180 plus gear yet. He was able to get the sag under control with the stock spring...I'm on the edge, however. I forget the exact numbers, but he did tell me that if I wanted it setup any tighter, I'd have to swap springs.

I find that it handles fantastic and is noticeably better than the cobb-job I did trying to set it up on my own. haven't had it on the track since the suspension setup, but this summer I will.

I ride with a pretty fast group and am always chasing, so my skills are not really "mad-skillz". I know enough that the setup made a great difference in feel through cornering; turn-in is fantastic and predictable now. Any more detail and i'm just not skilled enough to describe what I experience...make sense?

I'll bet you'd be fine w/ the stock spring. If you're that good of a rider, maybe swap it out later once you prove the stock doesn't do the job.

:cheers:

Shovelstrokeed
01-28-2010, 03:23 PM
I'm a bit heavier at 190 and when I had my Ohlins shock on my Sprint set up by Lindemann Engineering, he ordered the shock with a 1.0 spring instead of the 0.95. I asked why and he stated the .95 spring would have required about 30-35 mm of preload to get the sag where it belongs, whereas the 1.0 spring only needed 5 mm. The result is the shock is able to work a bit better and more in the upper range of the compression damping resulting in a smoother ride. The bike certainly is that, smooth and supple with great control. I'll probably do the same thing with my T.

Velociraptor
01-29-2010, 07:40 AM
I'll bet you'd be fine w/ the stock spring. If you're that good of a rider, maybe swap it out later once you prove the stock doesn't do the job.

:cheers:

Ha Ha, "that good of a rider",:) I wish. No the reason I want to change is because it is well known that the Sachs shock is probably the worst thing on the bike, I have had mine for 18 months and would never be able to ride it to its limits even with that shock. I want something that gives a more controlled ride, which I believe the ohlins does, and also to be able to adjust the ride height. When I got the bike, on stock settings, it used to want to run wide and on bumpy roads throw me out of the seat. I have set the sag up, it was much too stiff on the front and too soft on the rear, I have also adjusted the damping, it is now a lot better. I am looking for quality of ride with the ohlins as much as anything else.
Thanks for the info, I think I would probably get away with the stock spring.

Brian.

Batfastard
01-29-2010, 08:44 AM
I had heard the stock spring on the ohlins was ok for a rider of about 180lbs,
I am about to buy an ohlins myself and weigh about that in my gear, I don't fancy paying all that money then having to start changing the spring as well:pissed:.
Is there anyone else of this weight running an ohlins with stock spring and if so how do you find it?

Brian

I am more like 200lbs. I had my Tuoldo set up for me and they used a 95N spring on the Ohlins. It was fine.

On Liz's Touno R we replaced the Sachs POS with an Ohlins unit from AF1. The difference was light and day, It's set for Liz who is about 150 in her gear, but I can ride it without noticing any problems. Liz has a bit if a dodgy back, so getting a smoother ride was a high priority - the Ohlins is silky smooth in comparison to the stock unit on an R model.

pizzadude
01-29-2010, 11:47 AM
Ha Ha, "that good of a rider",:) I wish. No the reason I want to change is because it is well known that the Sachs shock is probably the worst thing on the bike, I have had mine for 18 months and would never be able to ride it to its limits even with that shock. I want something that gives a more controlled ride, which I believe the ohlins does, and also to be able to adjust the ride height. When I got the bike, on stock settings, it used to want to run wide and on bumpy roads throw me out of the seat. I have set the sag up, it was much too stiff on the front and too soft on the rear, I have also adjusted the damping, it is now a lot better. I am looking for quality of ride with the ohlins as much as anything else.
Thanks for the info, I think I would probably get away with the stock spring.

Brian.

As the Batfastard said, you'll probably be more than fine with the stock spring.

The big difference for me was having a pro set the suspension up properly.

The Ohlins are very complaint and fantastic on the street. I hear a few people say you only need Ohlins if you're going to be running on the track. Personally, I think Ohlins are just as good if not more important on the street simply because they keep the chassis in check under less than stellar conditions...and if you live in PA, we have less than stellar conditions on a lot of roads.



Have fun!

GreaseSnake
01-29-2010, 12:47 PM
Nice bike! The right color :cheers:

SkarTisu
01-29-2010, 01:26 PM
Guys, if you dont mind taking 5 minutes to type it out, could you please explain the differnts maps and PCIII that you metion? Are these possible to program via my laptop and required software or is this a dealer only service?

Thank you!

Craig.

There are two maps available in the Aprilia ECU. The MAP that comes from the factory (a.k.a. Variant 1) and an emissions-be-damned MAP (a.k.a. Variant 2 or MAP2)

If you run stock exhausts, you must stay on Variant 1 otherwise you run the risk of fouling plugs.

Once you've changed exhaust, then you'll want to switch to MAP2 which makes the fueling MUCH nicer. Also at this point, you can then install a PCIII. You'll want to have a dealer/tuner create a custom map for you since there isn't a good database of maps to load on the PCIII for these bikes (that I'm aware of). You CAN adjust the PCIII map manually, but it's not a good idea unless you know exactly what you're doing.

I have MAP2 and Leo Vinces on my Factory and I'm 95% happy with it. There are still a couple of spots in the rev range where the fueling could be a little better, which would take a PCIII and custom map to resolve.

Welcome to the Cool Kid Club, rsvandy! :D

treemender
02-02-2010, 04:18 PM
Hi Andy! Just thought I would make another screen suggestion (see pic)

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/treemender/DSCF2121-print.jpg

The screen is a Puig (Spanish) very good quality (fit) and a nice height. I got it from here:- http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=548&products_id=8036

But that was last spring. There may well be more people stocking them by now. The screen on my bike is the dark smoke option

Enjoy the bike!

Jez

twin4me
02-03-2010, 04:27 AM
:crowbar::mad::mad::mad:

All threads relating to screens should really be posted here!

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94776

It's currently languishing on page Seven with only 419 posts and 58,725 views!!!

Bring it back to life, pleeeeeeze!

:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

manxkipper
02-03-2010, 02:07 PM
I would stay away from the puig. Mine developed three large stress cracks about a month after purchase. I am sure it has to do with the way it has been moulded. Bought one of these instead from Skidmarx in the UK. Nice quality and fit