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cal550b
11-22-2007, 12:28 PM
nothing to do with aprillia but interesting non the less
A New York man retired, wanted to use his retirement money wisely, so it would last, and decided to buy a home and a few acres in Portugal.

The modest farmhouse had been vacant for 15 yrs.; the owner and wife both had died, and there were no heirs. The house was sold to pay taxes.
There had been several lookers, but the large barn had steel doors, and they had been welded shut. Nobody wanted to go to the extra expense to see what was in the barn, and it wasn't complementary to the property anyway, so, nobody made an offer on the place. The NY guy bought it at just over half of the property's worth, moved in, and set about to tear in to the barn. Curiosity was killing him so he and his wife bought a generator, and a couple of grinders, and cut thru the welds.

What was in the barn? duc i think you will like this more than anyone.

Go to; www.intuh.net/barnfinds/afa70.htm

Alice Racing
11-22-2007, 12:35 PM
The Lancia's and Alfa's are worth lots of dough...........15 years ago i got a £250 finders fee for putting a dealer on to a B20 GT that was completely shagged.

cal550b
11-22-2007, 12:38 PM
The Lancia's and Alfa's are worth lots of dough...........15 years ago i got a £250 finders fee for putting a dealer on to a B20 GT that was completely shagged.

my very fist car was an alfasud ,if you look close there is a red one in there.

slingshotcy
11-22-2007, 12:40 PM
Talk about luck!

Obviously the "cat" wasn't killed by curioucity this time :)

Nice collection.....

WATTY
11-22-2007, 12:42 PM
my very fist car was an alfasud ,if you look close there is a red one in there.

that is unreal in it wot a lucky git.

cal550b
11-22-2007, 12:45 PM
it give ya a buzz tho dunit!!!!i want to know why he welded the doors shut for ever ,

WATTY
11-22-2007, 12:47 PM
it give ya a buzz tho dunit!!!!i want to know why he welded the doors shut for ever ,

maybe they were all nicked ha ha.

king karl
11-22-2007, 12:53 PM
I wouldnt fancy his valeting bill :eek:

RXV_Poor
11-22-2007, 01:16 PM
The hardest part would be parting with them.

SLORider
11-22-2007, 01:48 PM
I love the caption's lack of American car knowledge:

"American" LOL!

cal550b
11-22-2007, 01:50 PM
I love the caption's lack of American car knowledge:

"American" LOL!

do Americans make cars?

davidimurray
11-22-2007, 01:54 PM
I've heard that story before - apparently it is a bit of an urban myth.

Apparently, the true story is that the farm is still owned by the original owner. He was a car dealer and whenever something interesting came into his showroom he would keep anything he liked. Numerous people have tried to buy the cars off him but he ain't having any of it!

Beau1K
11-22-2007, 01:56 PM
Jay Leno eat your heart out...that guy is going to make a fortune off those rides!!! Can you imagine...all of a sudden you are in the rare classic car business! Looks like he has a new hobby! Hello eBay!

WATTY
11-22-2007, 01:57 PM
I've heard that story before - apparently it is a bit of an urban myth.

Apparently, the true story is that the farm is still owned by the original owner. He was a car dealer and whenever something interesting came into his showroom he would keep anything he liked. Numerous people have tried to buy the cars off him but he ain't having any of it!

tight fu--er i bet he wished he had sold em now.

orangerider2
11-22-2007, 03:00 PM
I spied a 007 car in there, there`s probably 2 million dollars worth of cars in there.:cigar:

RZRob
11-22-2007, 03:04 PM
What a find. While all those cars are special, it's weird how he covers from Datsuns to Lotus and BMW. It'd be something to go car by car through them, restoring etc., then parking in better conditions. What a vicarious thrill.

I worked at a Ferrari Dealer years ago and this 'barn find' came in. It was Juan Fangio's 206 Dino. I think it's this exact car, but it was covered in about an inch thick of dirt. Same wheels and everything though. No kidding.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/rzrob/JuanFerrari.jpg

I also remember then getting one of the $750K Jag XJR220s, Ted Nugent's Ferrari and the Sultan of Bernai's F40, but seeing that old Dino...Someone got a real find.

Classic Bike regularly covers 'Barn Find' bikes.

RZ Rob

Rokoneer
11-22-2007, 03:58 PM
http://www.snopes.com/photos/automobiles/barnfind.asp

DKM
11-22-2007, 05:08 PM
its curious to see cars without motors, windshields, headlights and so forth. If it was a "collection" wouldn't these cars be in pristine condition and then just get dirty from neglect? I think the guy really didn't give a shit about those cars. He does have some cars in there that are worth some money but i think a lot of them are just your run of the mill junkers.

To me a car collector or enthusist wouldn't let their cars go like that.

duc slayer
11-22-2007, 05:49 PM
yes, unfortunately it is not entirely correct the "story" that is, someone had posted this story and the snopes site, a few months ago somewhere else on the forum

RZRob
11-23-2007, 12:36 AM
My Fiance is Portuguese and according to her, there was a revolution throughout Portugal in 1974. The fascist government of Salazar was demoted and the new regime (democracy) took over. Inbetween, people that had belongings lost everything. She believes these cars may have simply been hidden to avoid being confiscated by the people. Or perhaps they were confiscated and hidden there. Either way, she believes this may have something to do with how they all came together.

The whole story would be a fantastic history lesson.

RZ Rob

RZRob
11-23-2007, 12:59 AM
Manuel Menezes Morais shot the photos, but he was sworn to secrecy about the cars’ location and the owner’s name. However, he was able to obtain permission from the elusive owner to give me the following information:
The owner of the cars was a car dealer in the 1970s and 1980s, and decided to save the more interesting cars that came through his doors. When the barn was full, he padlocked and “soldered” the doors shut. (Perhaps welding was too permanent.)
Web sites varied on the number of cars: 58, 100, and 180 were speculated. According to Morais, there are 180 cars in the barn.
And, aw shucks, none of the cars is for sale.
Clara was able to determine that the cars are located somewhere in the area of Sintra, near Lisbon. I asked Morais if he could ask the owner if he had a favorite car. “He has lots of good cars in very good condition,” he says, “but he loves the Lancia Aurelia B24. He has two.”
I would ask that a European-based SCM subscriber pick this story up and help fill in the blanks. And let me know what you find (tomgcotter@roadrunner.com). I’d like to include the true story in a future In the Barn book, as well as in SCM.
So, what's in there? (http://www.sportscarmarket.com/portugesebarnfind.pdf)
TOM COTTER is a contributing editor to Road & Track. The sequel to Cotter’s book Cobra in the Barn, to be called The Hemi in the Barn, will be published by Motorbooks this fall.

RZ Rob

RZRob
11-23-2007, 01:01 AM
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/11902/

'It's Peter Max's Car, Man!'

How one artist’s big PR dream left 36 Corvettes in the dust in a Brooklyn basement.


By Josh Dean (http://nymag.com/nymag/1905)http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/cars050502_400.jpg
(Photo: David Allee)


There are 36 vintage Corvettes in the garage below the former Daily News printing plant in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. They’re dusty, and secure behind a chain-link fence, as if being held as evidence: one Corvette for each year they were made, starting with a pearl-white ’53 convertible and ending with a red 1989 model. Some of their windows are open. Some have flat tires. A lone white ’61 rests outside the fence. On its back end, someone has scrawled NO ONE LOVES THESE VETTES! in the grime.


The plant is now a condo, and its residents are wondering why the cars are taking up their spaces. “It’s a really beautiful collection,” says Drew Hauser. “But it’s hard to look at because of the general state of neglect.” The only clue as to whose they are isn’t even a Vette. It’s a yellow VW Beetle adorned with pink clouds, blue stars, and multicolored UFOs—the hippie iconography of Peter Max, the mustachioed pop artist who’s painted five presidents, had a one-man show at St. Petersburg’s Hermitage, and sold thousands of posters and prints. All of which has made him whimsically rich.


And as he tells it in his studio near Lincoln Center, the Corvette story is a rich man’s lark. “I’m not a car guy. I never drive,” he says. Nonetheless, on an impulse, he and a friend went to the 1990 auto show and saw the collection there. He decided he’d love to paint them, “Yellow to red, or green to blue.” That same friend woke him early the next morning to tell him that they’d been won in a VH1 contest by a Long Island carpenter named Dennis Amodeo. Max fell back asleep. “And I get the biggest PR dream I’ve ever had,” he says. “Suddenly I see my Peter Max Corvettes coming out onto a football field with cheerleaders on top. There are 60,000 people cheering, screaming. A guy in front of me is screaming to the guy behind me—he’s holding a frankfurter and mustard is dripping down his sleeve, I see this in my dream—he’s screaming right at me, looking through me, ‘It’s Peter Max’s cars, man!’ ”


Startled awake, Max picked up the phone, called Amodeo, and got him to come into the city with a lawyer. Max says he paid just under half a million dollars, “one third of what he asked for.” The plan was to do limited editions of the cars—but then “the dream wore off,” and, well, “I’ve been so busy.” He vows the project will still happen. The condo-board secretary, Michael Rogers, says that the original lessor of the garage was worried about lack of demand and so happily offered a large chunk to Max.


Don Sherman, an editor at Automobile magazine, who hasn’t seen the cars, thinks that Max got himself a pretty good deal; Vettes before ’68 are highly sought-after. (In fact, only 300 of the ’53s were ever made.) “Just the ones from ’53 to ’68 are probably worth a million and a half,” he says. And he dismisses the dust and scratches as “surface stuff, mostly irrelevant to a collector.”


Told of Max’s plan for them, though, he says, “From a car enthusiast’s standpoint, they’re worth more in their deteriorated condition than if they were painted by Peter Max.”


RZ Rob

BroLy
11-23-2007, 11:38 AM
Welcome to Portugal ! ehe :bump:

PhilG
11-23-2007, 03:12 PM
I've heard that story before - apparently it is a bit of an urban myth.

Apparently, the true story is that the farm is still owned by the original owner. He was a car dealer and whenever something interesting came into his showroom he would keep anything he liked. Numerous people have tried to buy the cars off him but he ain't having any of it!


Yes, thats the story.