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RSVR Buncey
01-06-2007, 08:58 PM
Hi,
Had to post on this topic, just returned an 03 tornado after keeping it only 1month, had an 05 rsvr instead. The tornado looked beutifull but never completed a journey without requiring breakdown recovery. What makes this worse is all the probs (mostly electrical) are common to most tornado plz see the bennelli forums my advise dont touch a benelli with a ten foot pole, only benelli specialists stand a chance of finding reliability, if you do buy one first check factory recalls are done on all 03/04 models the clutch baskets fail if not replaced (as was the case with mine) new engine! then the electronics are hopeless majority of owners experience dashboards resets frequently (mine every time i turned it off) the last straw for me after a morning waiting to be recovered again with the bike running with no key in ignition and cutting out when i tried to ride off, was the lack of interest by benelli told me straight that although most my probs are factory re-calls as the bike just out of benelli warranty id have to pay for everything. If your thinking about buying check there forums first see what your in for, or feel free to e-mail me markbunce@btinternet.com

Beau1K
01-06-2007, 09:03 PM
Man...that sucks...that's one of the most beautiful bikes ever too :(

RSVR Buncey
01-06-2007, 09:08 PM
Hi mate, forgot to say how dissapointed i was because as you say they are in my opinion the most beutifull bike ive ever seen, let down greatly by bad support, and a lack of development, in fairness though benelli were in financial trouble when the tre was developed they have since been brought out by a large chinese company so maybe things will get better just want to warn people to research before they buy so they dont go through what i did, but im sure there are some happy owners out there too.

Beau1K
01-06-2007, 09:10 PM
Chinese Benelli:confused: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall:

So...what do they call it "Binerri"? :funnypost

rdgarza
01-08-2007, 11:11 AM
:funnypost

kilat
01-08-2007, 12:37 PM
Chinese Benelli:confused: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall:

So...what do they call it "Binerri"? :funnypost

I'm speechless. :lame:

jetfever
01-08-2007, 02:34 PM
:funnypost
:plus: (What do they call it)? What he said, LOL. Why are you, Kilat, speechless?

Beau1K
01-08-2007, 10:26 PM
I'm speechless. :lame:

Ahhh...come on...that was some funny shit!

When you "get it" from reading text...you know it's good :D

Steve / AF1 Racing
01-08-2007, 11:12 PM
That really is a shame.

I think that Benelli has considerable potential and I really hope that the new corporate governance can get the quality control issues solved.

The liter class (and above) triple could be a very good and desirable piece.

Beau1K
01-09-2007, 02:25 AM
That really is a shame.

I think that Benelli has considerable potential and I really hope that the new corporate governance can get the quality control issues solved.

The liter class (and above) triple could be a very good and desirable piece.

:plus: I really like their bikes...and their shotguns aint too shabby either ;)

RSVR Buncey
01-09-2007, 05:50 PM
That really is a shame.

I think that Benelli has considerable potential and I really hope that the new corporate governance can get the quality control issues solved.

The liter class (and above) triple could be a very good and desirable piece.

Hi steve,
Totally agree mate and i must say that when the tre ran it was a pretty special experiance, you also get a lot of attention/interest from other bikers, i had people ask if they could take a pic of it. I dont wish to sound as though i am slating benneli, all i wanted to do was make people aware that there bikes pre chinese buy out had several issues some of which are serious and potentialy dangerous and to research before buying. I applaud any small or large bike company that tries to develop a bike thats a bit different to the norm, the industry needs it lets face it fireblades,gsxrs,R1 although great bikes in there own rite are basically the same e.g. the new blade is pretty much identical the the R1.

All the best Buncey

Morgan
01-10-2007, 07:42 PM
Not sure I take to the shape very well although iit's definitely a looker.
Very iconic as a motorcycle, if not a bit like a retro-cafe style racer.

It's very brave of you to buy a specialist Italian Benelli in the heart of England! The back-up and dealer support is the first thing I looked into before going for an Aprilia. I had the heebie-jeebies choosing between an Aprilia and a Ducati, with Aprilia being held by much smaller dealers. At the end of the day, the Ducati dealer closed down both the branches I was looking at, and the smaller family run Aprilia dealer is still going strong.

Giovani Aprilia
02-22-2007, 10:37 PM
I m enjoying my TRE sorry to hear your troubles.

SF2DieHard
07-17-2007, 09:38 AM
Well.....

I hope the new ownership can do better than the Laverda fiasco a few years ago.

I bought the 1999 Lav 750S based on how much I loved my SF2 - there was no comparison in the bikes ( I love the SF2 much more than the new bike). The dealer support struggled at best; it was easier to get parts for the '70s machines than it was to get parts from the dealer for the new bikes. I loved the new Lav for the rarity factor ( I was the _only_ guy riding a silver and orange in the San Francisco Bay ) but that wasn't satisfying enough in the long run.

A year after I bought the Lav the San Francisco Aprilia dealer told me that Aprilia's only competition in regards to dealer support was Honda.

Am I interested in a Benelli Triple? Of course. But I would buy a Triumph Speed triple any day of the week instead of the Benelli - Triumph has passed the test of time. Besides, a guy I met that once owned a Jota told me that the Triumph triple he owned never gave him the problems of the Italian machine - and the Triumph was an "angry" motorcycle. :)

Michael

Quirky
07-17-2007, 02:11 PM
Am I interested in the new Benelli bikes? Sure. Would I buy a new '06 or '07 model? Probably, as soon as I get enough dough to buy one.
I do still like my Aprilia, too, and the current one isn't my first one, and probably not the last one, either.

I have had the chance of test riding most of the '07 models of both Benelli and Triumph during this season. Even though I like both triples, (and some of the Triumph twins), a side by side test ride of TnT Sport and TreK vs. Speed Triple and the new Tiger was pretty interesting. In both cases the Benellis won my heart and my, um, backside. They were both more engaging, better handling, perhaps, better riding position and more fun in general than their Hinckley counterparts. IMO, anyway.

Both brands and each model are very nice bikes, though. I work in a Benelli and Triumph dealership these days, so I actually sell both of those triples. Even though I get to see both of those side by side, I think I would choose a Pesaro triple for myself. I might not recommend the Pesaro triple to someone already fixed on the Hinckley triple, though, because Triumph aren't too shabby, either, and Benelli will never be everyone's cup of tea. They will appeal a smaller and quirkier audience, even though they are pretty good and reliable bikes these days.

If you decide to buy a Benelli, just make sure you'll have it serviced and/or tuned by a proper Benelli mechanic who knows his stuff, not by some lawnmower or car mechanic. Or even by some average Jap bike mechanic.

The Benelli mechanics that know their stuff know that quite a few things can be done to the Benellis, and things that can be installed to Triumphs, like Tuneboy software, can also be installed in the Benellis, which may improve the performance of each triple brands.

taper41
11-05-2008, 09:21 PM
i love aprilia's because there rare to be honest the less on the road the better, its something that we have that few people do. but i do agree with a couple of people in this thread and a few others from elsewheres. piaggio is not concered with the us market as much as europe, other than the scooter division, aprilia has always been very small. to be honest i love all italian bikes and was also looking at a benelli tornado to go with my rsv. but in the comming years benelli is goin to try and take over the us market with its new chinese money. they are importing over 20 thousand motorcycles by 2010 to the us. which is by far more than aprilia. plus Qiangjing the company that owns benelli dwarfs piaggio in size, and in production. so look for benelli to be seen quite a lot in the upcoming years, more so than aprilia

SoulDaddy
11-22-2008, 11:40 PM
I have no yen for them whatsoever.

Ho ho. Ha ha. Ho ho.

And viewing them from the rear with the radiators and fans under the seat they remind me of the little underwater scuba craft with the caged propeller blades all spinning around and shit. Real good if you're Mike Nelson.

http://tec.nologia.com/img/1/dk017_pip.jpg

norcolmille
11-23-2008, 12:10 AM
I am curious if / how you returned the tornado

In the US we have a "lemon law" in certain states and you can return a car..
and get the $$ and or the same vehicle

did the dealer take the tornado in trade move you up or into the Aprilia ?

In any case I am sure you will enjoy the more reliable aprilia

lanes luck
11-23-2008, 12:21 AM
Just curious ,will the new ones have "made in china" stamped on the bottom?

AndyD
12-02-2008, 09:28 PM
Chinese Benelli:confused: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall: :bangwall:

So...what do they call it "Binerri"? :funnypost


RACIST!!!!

AndyD
12-02-2008, 09:34 PM
And viewing them from the rear with the radiators and fans under the seat they remind me of the little underwater scuba craft with the caged propeller blades all spinning around and shit. Real good if you're Mike Nelson.

http://tec.nologia.com/img/1/dk017_pip.jpg[/QUOTE]

You're Killin' me Gary..
Even an xmas segue with the ho-ho-ho's!!!

:funnypost:funnypost:funnypost:funnypost:bangwall: :plus:[QUOTE=SoulDaddy;2031677]I have no yen for them whatsoever.

Ho ho. Ha ha. Ho ho.

taper41
12-06-2008, 07:05 PM
watch what happens with benelli by 2011 theyll be plentiful in the us much more so then aprilia ..... the owners are stricly gunning for the u.s market

jrflanne
01-01-2009, 01:33 AM
Maybe they will sell them at walfart.

twinkiethekid
01-01-2009, 03:41 PM
On 11 Sept 2007 I attended a trackday that had most of the Italian makes present, including Benelli. One of the Tres they had refused to start and they began the search for the gremlin. For an hour and a half they searched, stripped the bodywork and hammered the starter motor to what I thought would be the point of failure. When the engine finally showed signs of life, it was not one of those "eureka" moments where the engine springs to life. It choked, coughed, sputtered and generally was forced into life. It was sad to watch and that particular Tre never left the garage.

The TNT I took onto the track felt like it had most of the fasteners loose. I was fully expecting a cartoon moment where the whole bike would fly apart, leaving me with just the clip-ons in my hands at the side of the track.

Needless to say, this put me off Benelli--likely forever.

In contrast, the MV Brutale I rode was a solid and fun bike to thrash. I'd buy an MV long before any Benelli.

shrike
01-21-2009, 11:01 PM
I am curious if / how you returned the tornado

In the US we have a "lemon law" in certain states and you can return a car..
and get the $$ and or the same vehicle

did the dealer take the tornado in trade move you up or into the Aprilia ?

In any case I am sure you will enjoy the more reliable aprilia

Wish they had that here in Australia. Would have returned my Aprilia LONG before the 2.5 years it took for them to finally getting around to replacing rear brake parts on my bike rather than just bleeding it.

taper41
01-22-2009, 12:58 PM
Am I interested in the new Benelli bikes? Sure. Would I buy a new '06 or '07 model? Probably, as soon as I get enough dough to buy one.
I do still like my Aprilia, too, and the current one isn't my first one, and probably not the last one, either.

I have had the chance of test riding most of the '07 models of both Benelli and Triumph during this season. Even though I like both triples, (and some of the Triumph twins), a side by side test ride of TnT Sport and TreK vs. Speed Triple and the new Tiger was pretty interesting. In both cases the Benellis won my heart and my, um, backside. They were both more engaging, better handling, perhaps, better riding position and more fun in general than their Hinckley counterparts. IMO, anyway.

Both brands and each model are very nice bikes, though. I work in a Benelli and Triumph dealership these days, so I actually sell both of those triples. Even though I get to see both of those side by side, I think I would choose a Pesaro triple for myself. I might not recommend the Pesaro triple to someone already fixed on the Hinckley triple, though, because Triumph aren't too shabby, either, and Benelli will never be everyone's cup of tea. They will appeal a smaller and quirkier audience, even though they are pretty good and reliable bikes these days.

If you decide to buy a Benelli, just make sure you'll have it serviced and/or tuned by a proper Benelli mechanic who knows his stuff, not by some lawnmower or car mechanic. Or even by some average Jap bike mechanic.

The Benelli mechanics that know their stuff know that quite a few things can be done to the Benellis, and things that can be installed to Triumphs, like Tuneboy software, can also be installed in the Benellis, which may improve the performance of each triple brands.


well, i agree somewhat with what your saying , the fact that benelli isnt everyones cup of tea, but neither is aprilia for that matter, but the fact that its so unique and has to many unique mechanics, could also popularize the bike and the manufacturer for that matter. dont you think

kilat
04-02-2009, 03:27 PM
That 03 and some of the earlier TNT's were legacy bikes left over from the Merloni Group and Italian manufacturing. Merloni was known to have publicly commented that as soon as the bikes left the factory they weren't his responsibilty. I heard that the US branch under the new ownership are much better at taking care of business and engineering. If that makes a difference! :)

SEAN
10-28-2009, 04:01 PM
The Benerri is one of those really weird bikes that I quite like, but unsure what it is about it I do like. I suspect the name partly, Italian, and hardly common. The fans at the back I like.

I think the tank is nice because it's different, and kind of artistic, but hat it because of the bollock removal system designed into it.

The upper side fairing is excessively bulky, and is the worst bit, imo harkin g back to faired attempts at bikes of 40 years ago, but the front view is again different and artistic.

The standard exhaust is completely lacking in artistic flair and makes it look dated.

Overall it is an interesting machine but don't rate it's devaluing by Chinese ownership, and couldn't have one because of that.

Only my 2p

Redst4s
11-01-2009, 12:19 AM
Ok you love the Benelli triple, some would say its sexy and vicious but, considering allllllll the problems out there, no distribution network and now chinese ownership; Do you really want to mess with this bike? Hey I loved it the first moment I saw it, especially those crazy rear cooling fans but, I want to RIDE my bike not park it in a living room.

May I offer a suggestion?
Buy your self a poster of the Benelli you love, put it in your garage and then go to your local Triumph dealer and get any, 955 or 1050 triple, perhaps a Speed Triple? And ride to hell and back without any problems.
I 've owned a few bikes but, my Triumph is by far the best!
I know I;ll get some grief from the Aprilia guys but, the truth and 12 years riding a Triumph should count for something.

Paris:bond:

rs250slowpoke
11-10-2009, 10:32 PM
Indeed they are such beautiful bikes. Just in case you guys haven't seen or sat on one in person wow what a rude awakening. The way the gas tank is shaped was a terrible idea from a riders standpoint. If pressed up against the tank (my riding style preference) then the gas tank protrudes in towards your lower abs. Not so comfy.

wfo
03-13-2010, 05:33 PM
Benellis are reliable if you do your homework first. check out the benelli forum online, do some reading, get the basics fixed up and it'll be the best bike you ever owned.

DeBenGuzzi
03-14-2010, 10:51 AM
watch what happens with benelli by 2011 theyll be plentiful in the us much more so then aprilia ..... the owners are stricly gunning for the u.s market

almost 2011 and I still haven't seen a single benerri in person :confused:

Ewadz3006
09-08-2010, 05:56 PM
almost 2011 and I still haven't seen a single benerri in person :confused:

Me too I've been to a couple bike rallies and bike cuises and still have yet to see another aprilia!

Ewadz3006
09-08-2010, 06:02 PM
I 'd love to check out one of those tornados they are seeeexxxy!

Lost_Viking
08-17-2014, 09:36 PM
There's a bike shop near here that has a Tornado Tre 900RS for sale. It's a bloody beautiful piece of work, and if it wasn't so impractical (luggage? what's that?) I'd be looking very, very hard at buying it.

Banned
08-17-2014, 10:34 PM
Wow, way to resurrect a thread. Where exactly is the outskirts of nowhere? That TRE is a beautiful bike. I had a neighbr who had one that he never rode - because it was always broken. He was a Yamaha tech too and couldn't solve all the electrical issues.

DDHARRIS
08-18-2014, 02:15 AM
Did Benelli flood the market with bikes like the one poster suggested would happen in 2010( 20k units)?

DDHARRIS
08-18-2014, 02:18 AM
Wow, way to resurrect a thread. Where exactly is the outskirts of nowhere? That TRE is a beautiful bike. I had a neighbr who had one that he never rode - because it was always broken. He was a Yamaha tech too and couldn't solve all the electrical issues.
That is scary when a tech cannot sort out electrical issues. Not sure why some manufacturers cannot figure a way to reliable electricals this day and age.

Banned
08-18-2014, 01:56 PM
That is scary when a tech cannot sort out electrical issues. Not sure why some manufacturers cannot figure a way to reliable electricals this day and age.I hear you. On so many forums the electrics are the primary problems people have it seems. Charging systems seem to be the biggest bugger.

Lost_Viking
08-18-2014, 10:03 PM
Wow, way to resurrect a thread. Where exactly is the outskirts of nowhere?
:banana: I try to amuse, bemuse and confuse people. It works most of the time.

As for my location - Melbourne, Australia.

And to be a bit relevant, the Tre was priced "under $10k" (Which for a bike down here is pretty bloody cheap - a brand new Benelli goes for > $20k.)


Did Benelli flood the market with bikes like the one poster suggested would happen in 2010( 20k units)?
I have no idea. I saw an MCN video from about 2011 saying the Benellis had been price-slashed from GBP12k down to GBP6k. Sadly, I have no idea how relevant that figure is now.

SF2DieHard
08-19-2014, 09:51 AM
Sorry guys - I am taking a hard look at the MV Rivale.
Motorcycle.com youtube ride report said GOOD things about the throttle modulation getting well sorted.
Unlike previous MVs.
I am gun-shy about the Benelli's.

DM

Banned
08-19-2014, 04:37 PM
I swear to God, if you get an MV before I do, I will have to un-friend you! :cool:

SF2DieHard
08-19-2014, 10:18 PM
LOL.
there are a few issues for me.
I want a zippy triple. Yamaha? Triumph? MV?
The MV is almost twice the price of the Yamaha but the Yam needs additional expense to bring up to snuff that the MV doesn't need.

And......
I could take MV money and get a CNC mill then use that to MAKE money and buy the MV later.

Sigh.

DM

kev b
08-20-2014, 08:38 AM
I look after a Benelli Tornado for a friend, it suffered from a few of the usual issues:

Stood unused for years when new - corroded core plugs leaked - easy fix using cheaper, better quality, more easily available Ducati parts!

Clutch drag, just about sorted now, cable clutch is being swapped for hydraulic this winter.

One or two little niggles left,fuel consumption, oil weeps, idle speed. From total despair six months ago this bike is now a fast, reliable, brilliant handling, fantastic sounding bike. It took a track day in its stride and the owner loves it, to the point of leaving his MV Agusta unused.

These bikes were the bargain of the century, I should have snapped one up myself, 20/20 hindsight again.

The strangest thing is that the cooling fans start freewheeling by themselves at 85 mph and everyone who rides behind it gets mesmerised when this happens, causing a few near misses.

FREDZEDEX
08-22-2014, 01:26 PM
Here's my Benelli Tornado in the garage which it now shares with the newly acquired Dorsoduro.

The Tornado has been faultless in the six years of ownership, no electrical gremlins at all. It's pretty standard and I love it. I don't need any other sports bike.

like all bikes,get a good one,look after it,it'll reward in spades. ( Tornados require 2 major modifications)

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm283/fredzedex/72dcc06fa7e799471f0a6a802a631b3f.jpg

budoist
08-22-2014, 03:35 PM
( Tornados require 2 major modifications)



Which are.....

Sequentialshift
08-22-2014, 05:43 PM
And now a Benelli is a rebadged Keeway .

Keeway
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae296/sequentialshift/bn600_zps0cd12706.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/sequentialshift/media/bn600_zps0cd12706.jpg.html)


Benny

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae296/sequentialshift/benelli-bn-600_zpsdbd955e9.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/sequentialshift/media/benelli-bn-600_zpsdbd955e9.jpg.html)

Lost_Viking
08-23-2014, 01:54 AM
Which are.....
From reading the Benelli owner's forum, there are 3 things that need fixing - the clutch, remapping the ECU and something called the 'z25'.

I _think_ the z25 has to do with the size of a bolt or shaft within the engine - when the engine gets hot, the thing expands too much and binds with whatever is rotating around it.

There is a reasonably active forum here: http://www.benelliforum.com/index.php

SoulDaddy
08-23-2014, 10:24 AM
I recently read where aprilia sourced the Falco's frame from Benelli. Can anyone confirm?

FREDZEDEX
08-23-2014, 12:27 PM
Which are.....

z25( alternator drive shaft from the back of the clutch) and 2007 onwards clutch basket

You could go for the updated speedo, change the cylinder block core plugs,move the air box drain so it doesn't drain onto the centre coil stick,double up the battery leads to aid with starting....... The list goes on........;)

FREDZEDEX
08-23-2014, 12:30 PM
And now a Benelli is a rebadged Keeway .

Keeway
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae296/sequentialshift/bn600_zps0cd12706.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/sequentialshift/media/bn600_zps0cd12706.jpg.html)


Benny

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae296/sequentialshift/benelli-bn-600_zpsdbd955e9.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/sequentialshift/media/benelli-bn-600_zpsdbd955e9.jpg.html)


They were going to call it the BJ 600.......,!







like your garage list BTW......:)

DanV990
08-24-2014, 12:38 AM
I recently read where aprilia sourced the Falco's frame from Benelli. Can anyone confirm?

According to this article RSVR frames and scooter frames were made by Benelli too.

http://www.armyofdarkness.com/index.php/2003/74-aprilia-factory-tour

AndyD
08-25-2014, 10:07 PM
I look after a Benelli Tornado for a friend, it suffered from a few of the usual issues:

Stood unused for years when new - corroded core plugs leaked - easy fix using cheaper, better quality, more easily available Ducati parts!

Clutch drag, just about sorted now, cable clutch is being swapped for hydraulic this winter.

One or two little niggles left,fuel consumption, oil weeps, idle speed. From total despair six months ago this bike is now a fast, reliable, brilliant handling, fantastic sounding bike. It took a track day in its stride and the owner loves it, to the point of leaving his MV Agusta unused.

These bikes were the bargain of the century, I should have snapped one up myself, 20/20 hindsight again.

The strangest thing is that the cooling fans start freewheeling by themselves at 85 mph and everyone who rides behind it gets mesmerised when this happens, causing a few near misses.

Now that's a reason NOT to buy, at least for the street.
That is, unless you have your will all up to date!!

Go find a 70s Benelli 650 Toronado Twin. If it runs, buy it. Mine never let me down!

AndyD
08-25-2014, 10:33 PM
According to this article RSVR frames and scooter frames were made by Benelli too.

http://www.armyofdarkness.com/index.php/2003/74-aprilia-factory-tour

Great link Dan! Thanks!!
Lotsa sophisticated items and jigs and stuff.

You'd think they could afford a newfangled computer monitor?!? J/K!!

261283

Sequentialshift
08-26-2014, 02:42 PM
They were going to call it the BJ 600.......,!


They really really should have done that !!!