100 4t info for newbie

[crossthread55]

100 4t info for newbie

Hello. I am thinking of purchasing an '09 Scarabeo 100 4t. Would like to here pros and cons please. I am attracted to this model for it's lightweight and it's similarities to my 1965 Honda S90 (the similarities are actually quite amazing; ie: dimensions, weight, performance, etc.) I have heard this model will do about 50 MPH. I would like to modify it to do 55 MPH for short stints (maybe 5-10 miles at a time). Please don't tell me to go to a bigger model, I have my heart set on this model or I might get another S90 to restore. Ways to shave appreiciable weight would be helpful also (storage box, rear rack, rear mud flap,???). I talked to a so called expert about the gas in the air intake and hard starting, hesitation problems and he said to just vent the gas tank to atmosphere (emissions no no). Any help would be nice. Exhaust, carb, variator,etc. Someone here recommened a slip on muffler from Honda 70; would a larger head pipe help?

[tomd]

it ll need all that italian aftermkt parts expensive id stk w thee honda/jap stuff Buy a Real chinease scoot Sym Hd 200 etc Keep Ur cash It aint like Ur joinin the Vespa club

[Buckeroo Bob]

I agree. Why spend top dollar on the 100cc scooter when you can get a 150 or 200cc scooter for the same amount? Look at a Kymco People 150 or Super 8 150. Much less money for more performance.

[SubSeven75]

Id get another S90 to restore...

[tomd]

Hell yea S 90 not much dough hella parts N upgrades cheap

[Beo]

I have 2002 Scarabeo 100 4t.

slow acceleration high top speed.

Low tork, bad in climbings. But if you live in a flat city you will love scarabeo 100.

Biggest problem, Its CDI unit is stored at the bottom (Under your feets) And if you ride in rain it gets wet and dead. Price: 100Euro - no chance to repair.

REALLY REALLY BAD LOCATION FOR CDI UNIT AND NO CHANCE TO ISOLATE.

It can be wet if the huminity is too high. It has a weird isolation and it gets wet when huminity is increased.

Thats why I bought scarabeo 200.

I really like design of scarabeo 100 (I think it is the main model of scarbeos) But because of this CDI problem it will be wise to bought Kymco or other stuff.

[skooter]

I own a '08 Scarabeo 100 4T and I love the scoot. Wouldn't trade it for anything and I can afford any scooter on the market. I love the tall wheels, light weight, and 96cc aircooled engine. I have no idea what all these goofballs are talking about; the scoot is quick from the lights and I routinely ride 2up at 50mph. Top speed is 60mph but it takes a while to get there from 50mph and you need to be tucked down and on a flat road. I've never had any mechanical problem with the bike. It sits outside every day and it rains most days here is Seattle. It also feels very sure-footed when riding in the rain which I attribute to the thin tires. When I first got the bike it was sluggish when cold but the dealer tweeked the carb again and that issue went away. It fires up quick and has power right away. I ride with a local scooter club and there are about a half-dozen Vino 125s; I don't know if they are being timid with the throttle but my 100-4T is always out ahead of everybody when the light turns green. When I get a chance I'll try to cajole somebody into a race 'cuz I'm pretty confident my 100-4T will be quicker in a short distance sprint and probably has a better top end speed than the Vino 125. I routinely filter to the front of a line of cars and rabbit when the light turns green and I have never felt the bike was too slow or had a car riding my ass. As someone mentioned, it doesn't have a lot of torque and does struggle a bit on really steep hills.

* About engine mods on my bike, the only tweeks that have been done are disconnecting the California emissions garbage, adding a shim to the carb, adjusting the air-fuel mix, and adjusting the idle.

* About boosting performance, the 100-4T seems to suffer from low fuel delivery so the best mod would likely be bigger jets or perhaps switching from the stock Keihin 20mm carb to the high-flow 20mm PE Keihin carb or the 24mm Keihin carburetor and of course a K&N airbox. I honestly don't believe a free-flow exhaust will help until you have addressed the fuel issue. Personally, I'm pretty happy with the current performance and am not inclined to mess with the bike.

* About trimming weight, I have removed the storage box and rear mud flap. But I did that mostly for looks as I don't think they really weigh that much (see photo left). It's already a pretty light bike; I believe it's the same weight as a Ruckus 50.

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[crossthread55]

Thank you for the help. I was thinking of something worse than goofball! By the way, where is your license plate located?

[SubSeven75]

Well if you have your mind made up before hand and are willing to accept a shitty ass scooter that cost more than 10-15 other scooters that not only look better, but preform better, and cost less, then I suppose you should have just kept your mouth shut and spared us this wasted space.

You asked for opinions and only one guy came in and said "DUDE its AWESOME scooter". Everyone else knows its a hunk of shit, and one of those guys works for an Aprilia dealership. My Aprilia dealership refused to order any due to the low quality.

And we are the goofballs?

[Buckeroo Bob]

...for the money you can get more scooter elsewhere. That's the point I was trying to make. I think with 25cc more it would be a much nicer scooter, but I don't think that's in the works. Just this goofball's opinion. The main thing is that you like what you buy.

[Scoot Man]

One of my best friends has the 100t... It is a bit of a dog on acceleration. We installed a Polini variator and although it did improve takeoff, he did sacrifice top end. My '02 SR50 is much faster than his off the line and in top end. He is now looking into big bore kits, intake modifications and exhausts.

On top of all this, the storage on the 100t is non existent. I will say that it is a beautiful scooter, but if I had to buy one, I would look for a used 250.

The list price on the 100t is the exact same as the Genuine Buddy
and the buddy is a quite capable scooter with well thought out storage and design.

If you are buying the scoot for "urban driving" on city streets and care more about design than having a capable scoot (read that you will not have the power to get out of "sticky" traffic situations) then the 100t is for you. If not, then you will have buyers remorse.

Good luck in your decision making process.

[SubSeven75]

You are way to nice Bob. POS might be too harsh, but the stupid twins did call everybody goofballs.

My whole point was to put your money into a project that is not only fun, but something that is going to appreciate in value, instead of wasting the money in a nice looking chinese made scooter thats really an uninspiring ho-hum experiance.


And Scoot Man.

You dare say anything negative about the almighty 100 4t? That scooter is the greatest most amazing scooter ever dude! You Sir, are a goofball

[Scoot Man]

SubSeven75.... Sir you insult my honor... I challenge you to a duel

J/K

I personally think the 100t is a beautiful scoot, very Italianesque... I would personally not drive one unless i had no other choice.

Even an older 150 would be better. Even the Aprilia sales reps will tell you the 100t is a dog (that is unless that's the only thing they have on the showroom floor).

[Beo]

Forget my first post.

With my Scarabeo 100 4T I past almost all scooters in town. 50cc to 500cc. I started challenging kawasaki ninjas and yamaha R1s. Maybe they haven't know this yet but they will notice soon..

After 100miles/h scooter is still stable but I start leaving the bike. Because of this I mounted a spoiler to my helmet. Now I can stay on the bike. I will post pictures soon.

yesterday I crossed a river with my Beo 100. Its like a horse, no electrical problem at all. But all you know that Italian scooters have the best electrical system in the world. This is their reputation.

I wish I couldn't afford for better, I mean pricy scooter. I don't know why I bought Scarabeo 200. I must be goofball!

I think Scarabeo 100 is worlds best motorcycle in the world. This is my first bike, maybe because of this I think that way.

So crossthread55 there is no reason for not to buy a Scarabeo 100. Go for it and do not update us until you own another scooter to compare.

[williamr]

Getting a 10% improvement on top speed needs a 35% increase in power. That's difficut to get out of a 4 stroke, and running flat out for 5 or 10 miles at a time isn't a good idea.

The Honda 90 is indestructable. Very few other bikes are. YOu really need a 150 for 55 mph cruise.

General point - all Italian electrics are poor compared to Japanese scoots. Many of the problems just need liberal application of WD40 to dry scoot. Some issues need a parts upgrade. I don't know of any on the Beo100 as yet, but don't be surprised if regulator and starter relay issues start to appear.

Rob