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    Kit pipes question...

    Looking at pictures of the 'kit' pipes, it looks to me as if they are 'thinner' than other after-market pipes (Like the jolly-motos) although fatter than the stock pipes... Is this right?

    This suggests most of the power from the 'kit' configuration comes from the increased compression ratio - and that fitting the kit pipes to an otherwise stock bike would produce less power than fitting something like a jolly-moto or equivalent exhaust.

    The shape of the kit pipe definitely looks like it is designed for a wide powerband (not sharp) which would explain why they rev-out better, they should also give better mid range.

    All this leads to the conclusion that the jolly's will produce more peak torque than the kit pipes.

    It also leads me to think that cutting down a set of jollys to make them shorter would produce more power than the kit pipes? (by shifting the jolly's greater peak torque up the rev-range resulting in more peak power) ... Of course the extra compression might damage the engine unless higher octane fuel is used (higher than AvGas that is)

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    This is what i have saying all along that kit pipes only work with ign advance that comes with the kit sapc or some manual advance i dynoed my bike with kit pipes & stock ign & got 54bhp
    compared to 70 (at the time)with kit sapc
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    But what about the kit SAPC and say a set of jolly's... (especially if you cut them down to tune them to the same RPM as the kit pipes) ... that should produce more peak HP, but a narrower powerband?

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    Don't know Keean but i would love to try a load of pipes & set ups to see what you could do

    i do know that lomas pipes work well with the kit SAPC
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    This type of discussion always excites me, but it also makes me a little apprehensive apprehensive...Kit pipe/kit sapc; Kit pipe/Stock sapc....?????....

    I have an otherwise stock '99 Replica with JL pipes. Colin, are these then going to workbest to get me a nice street ride, or am I barking up the wrong tree - what can I expect?

    It runs really nicely now, but I have reservations as to if they are working in harmony together or being slightly defeatist.

    Can you guys educate and give some guidance, please?

    KR
    "...Aprilia RS250 is the serum you need: it is a must and it won't be around for ever - and life without one could get (very) boring..."

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    I am told that the JL pipes were designed for a stock Aprillia sapc but i know a couple of guy's who race with JL pipes & are getting good results with them & the kit sapc (70plus bhp)& kitted carbs so you might try some manual ign advance or a kit sapc & open the airbox up & kit the carbs there could be quite a bit more power to be had
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    Well... I am still working on a programmable ignition for the RS - It should be fun when its done.

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