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    TSS Slipper/Antihopping clutch

    After installing the TSS unit, I have struggled to get the bike into neutral.
    After some reading and discussion, I understand I need to be quite careful about the clutch pack height. To this end, I have spare parts that should allow, perhaps at least, some fine adjustment. I expected to find details re pack height in the instructions..There is nothing specific however..
    Can I get some input from others who have worked with this installation and had tune the adjustment please...? ( gen1 bottom end)
    ( I realise this is an issue with a number of approaches..Please note, I am seeking clutch pack dimension guidance in this case....)
    Thanks for looking...

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    Hi Tim, merry Christmas mate.

    The tss clutch is the same as the Sigma, if you go on the sigma site you should be able to download the information there.

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    Tim,

    Read through this post there is an bit about the deck height and the way the clutch plates are set up Richard aka dog78 or Vergil on here in the gen2 section has his working perfect now so good advice from him

    http://rsvr.net/jmhs-1060-big-bore-p...opic25873.html
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    Great- thanks guys !

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    Hi Tim, sent you a pm.

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    Aye, got it. Sorry to be a bit slow on the uptake...!

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    will update my V2 Tuono racebike to TTS/Sigma soon as well... so i need infoes too!
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    Order for TSS:
    Engine.................................Pressure plate
    F|S|F|S|S|F|S|F|S|F|S|F|S|F|S|F|S|F

    pressure plate lift with stack in place. The closer to 1.2 mm you can get the better. Minimum 0.5 mm. Mine is 0.7-0.8 mm with used plates.
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    Hi Gabro, pm sent.
    JMH I used new Ferodo fibers but only managed to get .9, maybe with new steels aswell I may have got to 1.2, but it works great and you are going love it, superb bit of kit.

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    Can I get confirmation where to measure the clutch pack. My vernier wont go down the TSS tech suggested holes but I may not be using the right ones...!

    Can anyone confirm if I go this right...?Click image for larger version. 

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    Changed the oil to a semi ( from fully synthetic- dont trust FS oil, dunno why I went for it. Nothing but trouble...!)
    Arranged the plates in the correct order. Clutch jet swapped out for the better version. New clutch pack fitted, and checked spec as per TSS set up crib sheet (1.1mm)
    Does it want to go into neutral...? Does it feck !

    Conclusion..TSS slipper clutch screws up the operation of your bike's cluch..?

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    I can't help you with your clutch but I am puzzled by your mistrust of synthetic oils. They are superior in every measurable way to conventional oils. Why use a semi synthetic? If synthetic is so bad, why do you want any in there.

    I use fully synthetic oils in everything I own. Even my lawn mowers.
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    Hi Tim, mine has the same slipper clutch, although it never been great to get in Neutral, it's worse when cold but still not ideal. Your stack height is bag on. I have also got to get to the bottom of the problem.
    I am thinking of putting the original clutch leaver in because I believe it has more travel than the aftermarket one. If I reduce the slack in the leaver it works fine but as the engine warms it takes up the slack and slips.
    We also had a problem with a Surflex kit and a TSS slipper combination.
    But we got it to work by taking the funny spring plate and moving it to the middle and putting to steels together, so the clutch order has a fiber to start and a fiber to finish against the pressure plate. I have the bike apart at the moment but I will let you know how I get on with the leaver swop. As far as I can see you have fitted it correctly and close as dam it to the height . 6 to 1.2 mm, they say 1.2 optimum.
    I could only get .9, but it works great like you Neutral is still difficult.

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    OK,

    Did a test run. About 240 miles and as warned here the clutch lever pulsation while shifting down is there but I had no issues finding neutral. As far as I know I've got the standard jet (haven't checked) and I used old OEM clutch plates, which are now in the order the TSS requires.

    As before one finds neutral the best through second gear but not impossible to get there from the first either.
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    Hi JMH, I am looking into my neutral problem further and tbh I think it's the same before the slipper but was different with standard leaver.
    Yes the clicking through the leaver I don't notice anymore. I have stopped bliping it now, a habit ingrained into my riding after years of racing two strokes. I hope your engine is going well and you should be well pleased with a great build.
    Did you put the 440cc injectors in?

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