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    MotoGP falls per manufacturer

    http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/888...-unpredictable

    Aprilia's #1!!!! Thanks Sam!

    Aprilia: 50 falls during the season / 2 full-time bikes =25.0 (falls per bike average)

    Honda: 84 falls / 5 bikes = 16.8

    Suzuki: 25 falls / 2 bikes = 12.5

    Ducati: 97 falls / 8 bikes = 12.1

    KTM: 18 falls / 2 bikes = 9.0

    Yamaha:
    35 falls / 4 bikes = 8.8
    The figures suggest Aprilia riders Aleix Espargaro (19) and rookie Sam Lowes (31) pushed the limit most this season - or had the least feel for the limit from their bikes.
    Honda was next up, with 51 of their 84 falls being accounted for by world champion Marc Marquez(27) and Cal Crutchlow (24).

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    Funny that MM and CC are the overall "best" pair.

    Yammy riders need to push more to find the limit, other than Zarco who seems to have a good grasp of it.
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    Aprilia's #1 rider is less talented than guys that the other companies employ as their test riders! Michele Pirro, Mika Kallio, Stefan Bradl, and Sylvain Guintoli are all better than EsA. Probably even that Stoner fellow as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo J View Post
    Aprilia's #1 rider is less talented than guys that the other companies employ as their test riders! Michele Pirro, Mika Kallio, Stefan Bradl, and Sylvain Guintoli are all better than EsA. Probably even that Stoner fellow as well!
    agree, what were they thinking employing Lowes seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo J View Post
    Aprilia's #1 rider is less talented than guys that the other companies employ as their test riders! Michele Pirro, Mika Kallio, Stefan Bradl, and Sylvain Guintoli are all better than EsA. Probably even that Stoner fellow as well!
    Were the Aprilia riders any more talented, or worse than the KTM riders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveNZ View Post
    Were the Aprilia riders any more talented, or worse than the KTM riders?
    At falling? That should be obvious Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo J View Post
    Aprilia's #1 rider is less talented than guys that the other companies employ as their test riders! Michele Pirro, Mika Kallio, Stefan Bradl, and Sylvain Guintoli are all better than EsA. Probably even that Stoner fellow as well!
    Seriously ?
    In 2014 he finished 2 places ahead of Honda mounted Bradl while riding a Forward Racing Yamaha . He also did better than Petrucci and Porto too. Maybe he flattered the Ape this year, perhaps it isn't a good bike at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by V4Victory View Post
    Seriously ?
    In 2014 he finished 2 places ahead of Honda mounted Bradl while riding a Forward Racing Yamaha . He also did better than Petrucci and Porto too. Maybe he flattered the Ape this year, perhaps it isn't a good bike at all
    Or perhaps he’s not getting the best of the bike.
    Put Marcquez on it and we’ll see.

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    To answer NZed's query, the 2017 Aprilia team absolutely had less riding talent than KTM's. Polly is plainly faster, has been a winner in other GP categories, and seems to make fewer mistakes. EsA may have a better agent, however!

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    IMHO, of the Espargaro brothers, Aleix is the better rider. He isn't alien status, but he's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigo298er View Post
    IMHO, of the Espargaro brothers, Aleix is the better rider. He isn't alien status, but he's good.
    I agree , remember him consistently beating full-on motogp Ducati bikes on the CRT Aprilia

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    Quote Originally Posted by murphc13 View Post
    Or perhaps he’s not getting the best of the bike.
    Put Marcquez on it and we’ll see.
    That goes with every bike in the paddock, Marquez is like Stoner, he'd probably win races on any of the bikes if the conditions were right (eg flag to flag races on the Aprilia and KTM)

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    Quote Originally Posted by V4Victory View Post
    I agree , remember him consistently beating full-on motogp Ducati bikes on the CRT Aprilia
    Because memories are imperfect let's check the facts: in his two seasons aboard the Aprilia CRT, 2012 and 2013, EsA beat both factory Ducatis exactly one time, at the '13 Dutch TT where he beat both Dovi and Hayden. One race later he finished ahead of Nicky in Germany. At no other time did he defeat a factory Duc, so "consistently"? Not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo J View Post
    Because memories are imperfect let's check the facts: in his two seasons aboard the Aprilia CRT, 2012 and 2013, EsA beat both factory Ducatis exactly one time, at the '13 Dutch TT where he beat both Dovi and Hayden. One race later he finished ahead of Nicky in Germany. At no other time did he defeat a factory Duc, so "consistently"? Not so much.
    Maybe Vic is including the Ducati satellite bikes in that? Can't remember offhand how many there were or who was on them but they would have been full Motogp bikes rather than CRT.
    As CRT bikes go the Aprilia was a pretty trick motorcycle, as 'factory' as a CRT bike could be, and Aleix was generally way ahead of the other CRT bikes as a result, not necessarily because he was that better a rider........

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