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    Perhaps some special non-USDM model that would become more desirable upon hitting the 25-year import mark and becoming street legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3RS View Post
    Perhaps some special non-USDM model that would become more desirable upon hitting the 25-year import mark and becoming street legal.
    250cc two-strokes were never imported to the US in the 90's when they were popular in the UK and elsewhere. But now I assume it would be possible with enough paperwork to get them over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sburns2421 View Post
    250cc two-strokes were never imported to the US in the 90's when they were popular in the UK and elsewhere. But now I assume it would be possible with enough paperwork to get them over here.
    That is exactly what I had in mind. Stateside import specialists such as Japanese Classics have already brought a few over.

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    hard to tell. Speculating is a mother effer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah / AF1 Racing View Post
    Yamaha OW01 in stock condition
    one currently on ebay in Utah

    "Up for sale is a 1989 Yamaha FZR750R OW01 with only 5047 kilometers (3136 miles). Bike is in mint condition with no issues. Wheels and fairings have been professionally resprayed with factory correct color codes. Bike is completely stock condition but has been de-restricted for full power. Fairings and components are 100% genuine factory Yamaha. New Michelin pilots have been installed front and rear. Not a scratch on the exhaust muffler or fuel tank. Bike looks showroom new condition. Bike runs fantastic. New battery and fluids throughout. This bike will not disappoint.

    Bike comes with Utah state title and is titled as a street bike for road use."

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    I was told by a ducati sales manager that only one model has increased in value- that is the ducati sport classic

    http://www.ducati.com/bikes/sportcla...0/tech_spec.do

    I wanted one but it was just too under-powered for me ..but they do keep going up in value ....
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    Ducati SuperMono has DEFINTELY increased in value, to stratospheric numbers.
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    There is a current bike that IMO, will be valuable, probably more than MSRP sooner rather than later.

    Kawasaki H2.

    Used ones in the US are $19-20k. Even new ones leftover are low $20s. At some point they will be dropped by Kawasaki or legislated out of existence. It looks like nothing else, and has massive power to back up the looks too. It represents the very best Kawasaki could build in a street bike at a sort of reasonable price. And considering how easy it is to get 240-ish horsepower out of the things it will be some time before a naturally aspirated engine will be faster.

    Will a good one ever sell for less than $10k? I highly doubt it. $15k? Maybe at the very lowest in 2022 or so.

    My guess is there will be two types of these bikes on the used market in a few years: modded/rashed/crashed, and babied minters.

    But it really is pretty special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sburns2421 View Post
    There is a current bike that IMO, will be valuable, probably more than MSRP sooner rather than later.

    Kawasaki H2.

    Used ones in the US are $19-20k. Even new ones leftover are low $20s. At some point they will be dropped by Kawasaki or legislated out of existence. It looks like nothing else, and has massive power to back up the looks too. It represents the very best Kawasaki could build in a street bike at a sort of reasonable price. And considering how easy it is to get 240-ish horsepower out of the things it will be some time before a naturally aspirated engine will be faster.

    Will a good one ever sell for less than $10k? I highly doubt it. $15k? Maybe at the very lowest in 2022 or so.

    My guess is there will be two types of these bikes on the used market in a few years: modded/rashed/crashed, and babied minters.

    But it really is pretty special.
    I would agree with this 100%

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    Wish I had've kept my 86 Suzuki 500 Gamma. Who knew they were destined to become such high budget collectors. Had a buddy who refurbished them and resold them a number of years ago when they were still semi reasonable. He made a living doing that for a few years. Paid $4500 Can. for it new. Now I've seen them go for $45,000, Most amazing street bike I owned till my 16 Tuono. Their only defect was the motors were a little fragile. They really needed pistons about every 10,000 miles or so. Don't ask me how I know. Still not a bad price to pay for 90 HP back in 86. Went 11 flats at the strip and 1.05's at the track. The latest record at our track is 58's on bikes 30 years newer and 60+ more HP.
    Had an RZ500 the year before. Worst POS I've ever owned. Fouled plugs every time you chopped the throttle after a hard blast. Used to carry plugs around by the box full. You could change them 3 times a day. Someone at the factory decided that it was a good idea to have the oil injection pump go wide open when you chopped the throttle after a redline blast. Presumably for reliability. A lot of guys got rid of the injection pump and went to premix to solve the problem.
    That wasn't the worst defect. They were the most evil handling bike next to the original H2 Kawi's. If you took your hands off the bars at 30 mph the bars would start to weave. By 10 mph they would be going lock to lock. Worst was it would wobble with your hands on the bars too. The only thing is you never new when it would do it. The wobble was completely unpredictable. You could do the same thing in the exact same situation 4 times a row and nothing. Then the next time it would try to rip your hands from the bars. Knew 2 local expert road racers that that bike ended their careers from being thrown down the road one too many times. Don't think it was just mine. I rode a bunch of them to see if it was just mine. They were all the same. If you want one for the investment, by all means, but put it under glass and stare at it. You'll be seriously disappointed riding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haga lout View Post
    I've over 20 bikes all are a investment in my life some are now werth more than others I think the British bikes have topped out unless you have a Vincent or the like.I think the 80's/ 90's bikes ar where the next rush will be at the moment two stroke bikes are on the up in the uk. I think if you can get hold of a mint gen1 fireblade or r1 they must be standard and as mint as you can get with history helps I think if you lusted after a bike in 25 years it will be a good bet eneything that's a special ie rc30 instead of a vfr750.

    Bikes I'm on the lookout for are
    Honda sp1/ sp2 ( preferably joey donlop led)
    Gen 1 blade ( urban tiger)
    Bimota testi
    Mv agusta 750 sport ( I know where one is and I've 1st dibs)
    Bmw r1100r randy Mamola rep
    Cagiva elefant 750
    Tdr 250
    Fucktonnes of TDRs in France. Id have one, too, and a Tesi, DB1 and YB6. The other bike I think would be a lookout is the Yamaha Belgarda SZR 660 - TZR running gear with an XT660 donk. One last, another Belgarda special - the 4DL TZR

    Belgarda also produced in limited numbers TZR125RRs and TZR125R SPs which have varying swingarms and increased power ratings. The 4DL shares the same frame as some versions of the TZR250 and was also used for the Yamaha SZR660 Belgarda which uses an XT660 engine.The TZR125RR which looks very similar to the 4DL Series 2 is identified by the larger and thicker banana swingarm and longer expansion chamber stinger.
    The TZR125R SP is based on the 4DL Series 1 but is recognised by the black Deltabox frame, swing-arm, rims, fork ends and a long expansion chamber stinger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce M View Post
    Wish I had've kept my 86 Suzuki 500 Gamma. Who knew they were destined to become such high budget collectors. Had a buddy who refurbished them and resold them a number of years ago when they were still semi reasonable. He made a living doing that for a few years. Paid $4500 Can. for it new. Now I've seen them go for $45,000, Most amazing street bike I owned till my 16 Tuono. Their only defect was the motors were a little fragile. They really needed pistons about every 10,000 miles or so. Don't ask me how I know. Still not a bad price to pay for 90 HP back in 86. Went 11 flats at the strip and 1.05's at the track. The latest record at our track is 58's on bikes 30 years newer and 60+ more HP.
    Had an RZ500 the year before. Worst POS I've ever owned. Fouled plugs every time you chopped the throttle after a hard blast. Used to carry plugs around by the box full. You could change them 3 times a day. Someone at the factory decided that it was a good idea to have the oil injection pump go wide open when you chopped the throttle after a redline blast. Presumably for reliability. A lot of guys got rid of the injection pump and went to premix to solve the problem.
    That wasn't the worst defect. They were the most evil handling bike next to the original H2 Kawi's. If you took your hands off the bars at 30 mph the bars would start to weave. By 10 mph they would be going lock to lock. Worst was it would wobble with your hands on the bars too. The only thing is you never new when it would do it. The wobble was completely unpredictable. You could do the same thing in the exact same situation 4 times a row and nothing. Then the next time it would try to rip your hands from the bars. Knew 2 local expert road racers that that bike ended their careers from being thrown down the road one too many times. Don't think it was just mine. I rode a bunch of them to see if it was just mine. They were all the same. If you want one for the investment, by all means, but put it under glass and stare at it. You'll be seriously disappointed riding it.
    I had an RG400 and 500, and an LC500 The biggest fault I had with them was the ridiculously small, but fat, front tyre. NZ roads did not love them, but on the right day... nothing could touch them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce M View Post
    Wish I had've kept my 86 Suzuki 500 Gamma. Who knew they were destined to become such high budget collectors. Had a buddy who refurbished them and resold them a number of years ago when they were still semi reasonable. He made a living doing that for a few years. Paid $4500 Can. for it new. Now I've seen them go for $45,000, Most amazing street bike I owned till my 16 Tuono. Their only defect was the motors were a little fragile. They really needed pistons about every 10,000 miles or so. Don't ask me how I know. Still not a bad price to pay for 90 HP back in 86. Went 11 flats at the strip and 1.05's at the track. The latest record at our track is 58's on bikes 30 years newer and 60+ more HP.
    Had an RZ500 the year before. Worst POS I've ever owned. Fouled plugs every time you chopped the throttle after a hard blast. Used to carry plugs around by the box full. You could change them 3 times a day. Someone at the factory decided that it was a good idea to have the oil injection pump go wide open when you chopped the throttle after a redline blast. Presumably for reliability. A lot of guys got rid of the injection pump and went to premix to solve the problem.
    That wasn't the worst defect. They were the most evil handling bike next to the original H2 Kawi's. If you took your hands off the bars at 30 mph the bars would start to weave. By 10 mph they would be going lock to lock. Worst was it would wobble with your hands on the bars too. The only thing is you never new when it would do it. The wobble was completely unpredictable. You could do the same thing in the exact same situation 4 times a row and nothing. Then the next time it would try to rip your hands from the bars. Knew 2 local expert road racers that that bike ended their careers from being thrown down the road one too many times. Don't think it was just mine. I rode a bunch of them to see if it was just mine. They were all the same. If you want one for the investment, by all means, but put it under glass and stare at it. You'll be seriously disappointed riding it.
    Damn...RG500 Gamma has been my dream bike for 25 years and I screwed up never getting one! They are scarce now and command crazy prices like you said. Think I will be on the hunt for a road legal NSR or Aprilia RS 250.....

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    This was one of my ZX7R model Kawasaki's...the better of the two, M2 model with factory adjustable camshafts and flatslide carbs (street bike so used a set of CV's on this one for daily riding)...always loved these bikes and they are not getting cheaper but are still fairly affordable when you can find them.

    In this pic it has the standard tail on it as well, hell looking back this may have been the ZX7 non R model I sourced nice reliable street parts from for the M2?
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