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Thread: How easy is it to push-start a Futura?

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    apriliaforum expert deefred's Avatar
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    I had to do I once when my RR died. Found a small hill steep enough. Dont remember the gear I selected.
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    Was successful once with 2 or 3 pushers on a slight downhill, in 3rd gear.

    Regulator was bad, so the bike later stopped running on my return home, due to low voltage.

    Recommend confirming nominal on-bike charging before riding again.
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    I carry a jumper pack in the top box the new ones are small now

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    Did it once after the OEM R/R died. Had a friend, and a small shallow hill, and used 3rd gear IIRC. Was like pushing an elephant.
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    I used a big hill and freewheeled in third to 25mph - started no problem

    Tried bump starting down a small incline and being pushed - got nowhere.
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    I've done it with my Falco but never yet needed to do so with the Futura. I don't imagine it would be any more difficult.
    However, it takes a lot of effort and isn't that easy so best to fix the underlying problem as soon as possible.

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    The trick to bump starting any large bore bike is to first push the bike backwards in gear till you bump up against compression. Then the engine is in a position to allow it to easily start turning before hitting a compression stroke.
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    Following up on this: I decided to not bother with push-starting, and instead got some jumper cables.

    Since there's so little room under the seat I took out the standard took kit and replaced it with the cables - I figure I'm more likely to need and use that than any of the tools.

    (Although that may be a sure way to get the bike to start on the first attempt, have the battery live forever, and result in the first on-the-road failure being one where I need something in the tool kit.) If I ever do any long-distance riding with the luggage on I'll toss the tools in, if I don't misplace them in the meantime.)

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    What have you done to solve the original problem? Was it battery? Stator? Reg/Rec? What were your charging voltages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesprocket26 View Post
    What have you done to solve the original problem? Was it battery? Stator? Reg/Rec? What were your charging voltages?
    Short answer: Nothing conclusive yet, but hopefully I'll soon have more info.

    Long story: When I was last working on this issue I accidentally blew the fuse in the pigtail I use to charge the battery with my CTEK charger. (I was going to use that cable to connect to the Battery Tender voltmeter I got specifically for this task.) I was running out of daylight so I had the choice riding the bike or taking the time to root around in the basement for a replacement fuse (which would have been too high amperage anyway). So I decided to just ride the bike instead of doing the voltage check. Since then I've been busy, and with the early sunsets haven't had the time to mess with it.

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    I've never even tried push starting this pig. FWIW, only way it works is if ECU still sees minimum 8 volts. Spark too weak and injectors won't get enough inductive kick to open very well, and I don't know about Sagem, but most systems flat won't trigger anything at all under 8 volts. If you do try, listen real close near your left knee when you sputter to a stop and you'll hear that focker laughing at you.
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    I took the Fut'r for a short ride to get the liquids circulated.. Oops.. No start! I had purchased a cheapie battery about 4 years ago and it finally gave up. To be fair, the Futura doesn't see too many miles lately...and I don't keep the tender on her all the time. I used one of the little Li jumper batteries. Started right up!
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