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Thread: Lowes on the outer for 2018, Bautista or Crutchlow to replace him?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzr750 View Post
    Who the fuck would want a satellite Aprilia? The factory ones aren't good so a satellite one would be worse. Mind you, it seemed to work out for Ducati?
    Probably why they aren't offering one till 2019.

    Development has been slow but it had been steady until now. The first year Alvaro was 15-16th and last year he was top ten fairly often finishing 12th overall (3 DNF). The latest step with the bike seems to make it fast but completely unreliable.
    It's difficult to tell where Lowe's is at (as with many riders). Is it the bike or is it the rider. Certainly to some degree it is both.

    Yamaha have just tested 2 new chassis. The first one is much more to Rossi's liking than the current 2017 frame (2017 too stiff). The Tech 3 guys have one of the best chassis on the grid with the 2016 Yamaha so they are much harder to beat than former years.

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    One issue IMO with Lowes is Michelin has changed the front tire at least once this season. If learning the rubber is one of the toughest jobs for a rookie (in addition to tracks, electronics...all with a bike that might or might not finish the practice session), suddenly changing the tires mid-season would make that job even tougher.

    Zarco & Folger seem to be progressing nicely as rookies, although I suspect their Tech3 package is better than the #2 Factory Aprilia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sburns2421 View Post
    One issue IMO with Lowes is Michelin has changed the front tire at least once this season. If learning the rubber is one of the toughest jobs for a rookie (in addition to tracks, electronics...all with a bike that might or might not finish the practice session), suddenly changing the tires mid-season would make that job even tougher.

    Zarco & Folger seem to be progressing nicely as rookies, although I suspect their Tech3 package is better than the #2 Factory Aprilia.
    This past weekend the Tech 3 appeared to be a better package than the Factory Yamaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sburns2421 View Post
    Isn't Aprilia contemplating a customer team in 2018? Maybe Miller gets one of those?

    The article mentions he wants too much from Ducati, I would be curious what a rider like him would consider his worth and what Ducati thinks he is worth.

    from the season-long form of the past 3 seasons.. about the same as Redding

    well specced satellite bike - and little chance of progression.

    the 2 have had VERY similar results on the honda RCV - Redding actually did better on the DOG of a Customer thou. giving RCV teammate Bautista a hard time.

    Appears to be a little too incident prone for a factory ride also....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzr750 View Post
    Who the fuck would want a satellite Aprilia? The factory ones aren't good so a satellite one would be worse. Mind you, it seemed to work out for Ducati?
    yeah, but if Aprilia gives them a deal, in return for data, then that progresses the bikes along

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    Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post
    from the season-long form of the past 3 seasons.. about the same as Redding

    well specced satellite bike - and little chance of progression.

    the 2 have had VERY similar results on the honda RCV - Redding actually did better on the DOG of a Customer thou. giving RCV teammate Bautista a hard time.

    Appears to be a little too incident prone for a factory ride also....
    Millers satellite bike isnt that well specced. He didnt get to ride Crutchlow 2016 chassis until the end of season testing. If you want to take his form over 3 years consider that his first was on open class bike his second on the worst Honda chassis in recent history and has received zero updates from the factory this year. Last year he left his teammate for dust and is ahead of him this season despite Rabat finishing the ladt race (in the points).

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    Miller is just not that good. He had a lucky wet win but other than that has done nothing to impress anyone. For one thing he is as fragile as a dry stick which is why he has missed so many races and tests. No one with a straight face can say he would be a good development rider for Aprilia as he isn't that good of a rider. It was an experiment that didn't work out, time to move on. If you take out the 25 points from the win last year and substitute it with his average points haul him and Rabat are fairly equal. Sure he missed a lot of races, see above "fragile as a dry stick".
    Though not impressed with Lowes ability to keep a bike on two wheels consistently, I do think the team has issues, in addition to the Qualifying fiasco there have been a couple of times in FP sessions where he didn't make it out of pit lane and had to push the bike back to his Box.
    Likely that Cal leaked that he was talking with other teams to push Honda into anther 2 year contract. I think Cal boasts too much, but does provide a valuable service for Honda similar to what Colin did while he lingered in GP racing. Both good, not great, riders able to provide quality feedback to their teams.
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    Hey Miller is from good Kiwi stock, if he's not that good, how does he compare to the best right now from the US?
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    I always considered it a bad decision for Lowes to go to Aprilia as it was. He has too much talent for a crappy bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meanstrk View Post
    I always considered it a bad decision for Lowes to go to Aprilia as it was. He has too much talent for a crappy bike.
    I thought Lowes jumped the gun on that decision, too. Whether he has "too much talent for a crappy bike" is conjecture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02RSVVT View Post
    I think Cal boasts too much, but does provide a valuable service for Honda similar to what Colin did while he lingered in GP racing. Both good, not great, riders able to provide quality feedback to their teams.
    That's a solid comparison. I think Cal is slightly better, but their roles in GP are going to be remembered as very much the same

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    Whether he has "too much talent for a crappy bike" is conjecture.
    Lowes proved himself fast in Moto 2, and yes, that does not always pan out in the transition, (Think Tito Rabat) the fact that the Aprilia is a shite bike is not exactly in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryogeneric View Post
    That's a solid comparison. I think Cal is slightly better, but their roles in GP are going to be remembered as very much the same
    I agree, Cal has won races in a much tougher era in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveNZ View Post
    Hey Miller is from good Kiwi stock, if he's not that good, how does he compare to the best right now from the US?
    ouch... well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveNZ View Post
    Hey Miller is from good Kiwi stock, if he's not that good, how does he compare to the best right now from the US?
    If millers bad he is a kiwi. And if he's good he's an Aussie

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