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    2017 RF shock linkage

    Motorcyclistonline.com says "revised leverage ratios," Sportrider.com says "new progressive linkage," and apriliausa.com says "it increases the reaction time of the shock." Anyone know what that all that means in rider terms? More progressive? Flatter? I heard someone mention on the UK RSV4/Tuono owners page that it makes a 10.5 spring in the back more like a 15.0, so it will require dramatically softer rear spring rates. I'm not a geometry wiz, so hopefully someone can translate what all that means to a club racer.
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    My assumption here. If "it increases the reaction time of the shock" then it would mean to me that you need more swingarm arc to get the same shock motion as previous models.

    BTW -- I am also in The Great American Southwest, Phoenix AZ to be more specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aftriathlete View Post
    Motorcyclistonline.com says "revised leverage ratios," Sportrider.com says "new progressive linkage," and apriliausa.com says "it increases the reaction time of the shock." Anyone know what that all that means in rider terms? More progressive? Flatter? I heard someone mention on the UK RSV4/Tuono owners page that it makes a 10.5 spring in the back more like a 15.0, so it will require dramatically softer rear spring rates. I'm not a geometry wiz, so hopefully someone can translate what all that means to a club racer.
    The only bike I know of that requires a significant linkage change to improve its 'leverage ratio' is the zx10r due to its horizontally mounted shock. Several companies offer the kits. Go look at a pic of the Kawi WSBK rear end and see how they've completely re engineered the shock linkage, geometry angles, and switched to the conventional vertical design. I have a hard time believing Ape changed the bike to such a dramatic spring ratio.

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    Piaggio has not yet listed up the 2017 parts availability for dealer access. (I already asked about 2B003744 Double Conrod) <--- The revised linkage part number.

    AF1 Ed is guessing the ratio has changed slightly due to the Ohlins TTX addition to the RF. And this makes sense because the 2017 RR has a different linkage part number (2B003070) than the 2017 RF. It seems overall they found better ratios, as the RR linkage changes from 2016 to 2017 as well.

    So there a few more guesses to make regarding using a 2017 RF linkage on another model....

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    I'm particularly interested because I have a 2016 RR with off-the-shelf TTX GP shock, but obviously still running the 2016 RR linkage. So if this is going to improve drive/traction I'd be interested. But considering the bike is still "designed" for two-up riding, it still has to remain progressive for that reason right? So not likely they went to a more flat, race-type linkage? I don't know, I'm just talking through the questions.
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    then please try the Forsaken link and let us know the before/after details.

    http://forsakenmotorsports.com/produ...spension-link/

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    The thrill of the search and the research is half the fun to me when it comes to buying go-fast parts. Plus, if it's an improvement and all I need are new side linkage plates, then there's a chance it won't be incredibly expensive. So club racer double win!
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    I ordered this part (2B003744 Double Conrod) few weeks ago, i received today. I will be comparing to stock 2013 Tuono, with a 2016.5 RF OEM ohlins shock. I'll you guys know, after i test, next weekend.

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    With the new linkage spring has gone down to a 85 vs 105 of previous one , so it's quite obvious that progression is totally different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyper View Post
    With the new linkage spring has gone down to a 85 vs 105 of previous one , so it's quite obvious that progression is totally different
    what? I think you have that backwards.
    Everything ive read says the 17 RF now has a 105 spring, up from 95.

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    2015= 95 , 2016=105 . 2017= 85

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    2017 i mean last model with tft dash etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99cobra View Post
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    I ordered this part (2B003744 Double Conrod) few weeks ago, i received today. I will be comparing to stock 2013 Tuono, with a 2016.5 RF OEM ohlins shock. I'll you guys know, after i test, next weekend.
    Didn't see this in AF1 yet? Where did you order from?

    Are you trying this with TTX or RF Ohlins shock?
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    I ordered linkage from www.aprilianewportbeach.com, ask for Daniel. I will install using a 2016.5 rf oem ohlins with the stock 105 N/mm spring. I weigh 280lbs with gear, so we will see if it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99cobra View Post

    I ordered this part (2B003744 Double Conrod) few weeks ago, i received today. I will be comparing to stock 2013 Tuono, with a 2016.5 RF OEM ohlins shock. I'll you guys know, after i test, next weekend.
    Could you take measurements of the linkage before installing? I mean distance between mounting holes.

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