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    Ducati supersport to reutrn along with special 1299S

    Anyone see the picture of the new supersport? Panigale-esque body work with 939 Hypermotard engine, tube frame, and more comfortable ergos?



    And also confirmed is a new special version of the 1299S

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    Ducati supersport to reutrn along with special 1299S

    I saw that yesterday. Seems like they have had a gap in that segment for a while now. I bet it sells pretty well dependent on reasonable pricing.

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    My guess is $15,495 for the S and $13,495 for the standard model.

    1299S shown is $28,995, limited to 500 worldwide. Has a few of the Superleggera touches but much closer to a regular 1299S

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    ive already had 2 people call yesterday wanting to put deposits down on the anniversary. so I guess that is a good sign lol
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    I saw and sat on the prototype (Supersport) months ago. Spoke to Jason Chinnock (CEO NA) about it for a while, too (who, btw, thinks the HyperMotard is the best engine they make and is his personal daily rider). Had to sign an NDA so couldn't say anything to anyone until now.

    Basically, a Hyper 939 power plant, bloated Panigale fairings, and Monster frame. Right around $13.5k USD. 100hp. 60ft lbs. Sub 500lbs. These were preliminary numbers, due to change once production hits. Luggage option in the works. Bike looked good in the flesh, was comfortable, and is priced fairly. I think it'll do well, though I wish they'd reissue the Paul Smart instead!
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    I saw "supersport" and "Ducati" and had to see what you were talking about. Relative to a 1299 I guess 939 is "supersport" but on paper it seems big to me. I'm not big on Duc history, so do you guys know why they don't make smaller bikes? I think even the scrambler is an 800--is that an L-twin engine thing?

    It does look super cool, and if it's kind of "looks like a Panigale but sits up like a Monster" I think they have a hit on their hands. Especially if they figured out the heating issue.
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    Ducati Supersports (relatively modern ones anyway) traditionally used their 2-valve air (and oil) cooled motors. The SBKs (whether middleweight or liter) used their 4-valve water-cooled motors.

    I'm not sure why this new model would be a SS and not a "middleweight" SBK...other than marketing, unless it uses an air/oil cooled motor. I thought they were phasing those out for emissions reasons though.

    Axe...when looking at Ducati displacements, don't forget to look at # of valves and cooling. Their 600cc - 1100cc air cooled, 2-valve motors are much different than the same displacement water-cooled and 4-valve motors.

    I'd love to see a true Ducati SS...air/oil cooled, nice suspension, ~100-110hp, ~360 lbs (or less since I'm dreaming!) ready to ride. Like an NCR Milona, or the more reasonably priced Pierobon F042.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxeManBlue View Post
    I saw "supersport" and "Ducati" and had to see what you were talking about. Relative to a 1299 I guess 939 is "supersport" but on paper it seems big to me. I'm not big on Duc history, so do you guys know why they don't make smaller bikes? I think even the scrambler is an 800--is that an L-twin engine thing?

    It does look super cool, and if it's kind of "looks like a Panigale but sits up like a Monster" I think they have a hit on their hands. Especially if they figured out the heating issue.
    if Ducati had never had the Supersport models in its history I think it would have been called something like Panigale Touring or similar. But my guess is you can almost take it to the bank this will have the 900SS name even though it is bigger in cc just because of history.

    As for smaller bikes, there is no money in it for them. I don't see Ducati ever doing a 300cc or even 500cc bike for the US market simply because it will cost twice as much as a like machine from Japan. They have made 350cc and 400cc supersport version elsewhere in the 90's but that was due to tax laws and tiered licensing.

    As for SportClassics, if they ever do them again I want an F1, and a 851/888. 851 styling with the 150hp 955cc Panigale engine would be awesome.

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    Ducati supersport to reutrn along with special 1299S

    Thanks, fellas--that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple J View Post
    Ducati Supersports (relatively modern ones anyway) traditionally used their 2-valve air (and oil) cooled motors. The SBKs (whether middleweight or liter) used their 4-valve water-cooled motors.

    I'm not sure why this new model would be a SS and not a "middleweight" SBK...other than marketing, unless it uses an air/oil cooled motor. I thought they were phasing those out for emissions reasons though.

    Axe...when looking at Ducati displacements, don't forget to look at # of valves and cooling. Their 600cc - 1100cc air cooled, 2-valve motors are much different than the same displacement water-cooled and 4-valve motors.

    I'd love to see a true Ducati SS...air/oil cooled, nice suspension, ~100-110hp, ~360 lbs (or less since I'm dreaming!) ready to ride. Like an NCR Milona, or the more reasonably priced Pierobon F042.
    Hey Triple J, I remember Ducati's real Supersport bikes being based on their 4valve head water cooled engines - ie, the 748 and 749 series bikes that raced in Supersport classes, successfully against the 600cc inline 4's of the day.

    I don't remember the 2 valve air cooled bikes being competitive in Supersports after the birth of the GPz 600. The old Pantah based bikes were good in F2 racing, but that's a long time ago now.

    The 600 SS and 750 SS bikes of the 90's / 00's were never competitive against i4's
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    Quote Originally Posted by millietant View Post
    Hey Triple J, I remember Ducati's real Supersport bikes being based on their 4valve head water cooled engines - ie, the 748 and 749 series bikes that raced in Supersport classes, successfully against the 600cc inline 4's of the day.

    I don't remember the 2 valve air cooled bikes being competitive in Supersports after the birth of the GPz 600. The old Pantah based bikes were good in F2 racing, but that's a long time ago now.

    The 600 SS and 750 SS bikes of the 90's / 00's were never competitive against i4's
    I was referring to models they called Supersports, not that raced in the Supersport classes. Agreed that their middleweights raced in the SS classes; however, Ducati always called them Superbikes. The Supersport models were the 600, 750, 800, 900, and 1000 models...all 2 valves. Agreed the 2 valves were never competitive against I-4s.

    Confusing terminology for sure...SS race classes vs. SS models.
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    I got to see one of the new Supersports last week when I dropped my bike off at the shop. It was pretty sweet. I was just surprised by it as I'd seen or heard nothing about it before but it's not surprising since I was deployed since November.

    Attached is a pic of me at Barber over 10 years ago with an original SS and a 916. Wish I'd gotten more pics of the SS.

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