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    Finally a V4?

    Italian mag so who knows if they have better access to sources close to the factory. Only place I have seen this but fingers crossed...

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    It makes sense for both Honda and Ducati, Honda more so really. Could keep mega hyper sportbikes interesting next year, KTM is also supposed to joining the V4 party.
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    DOHC V4? Well it only took them half a century to catch up with Jawa.....

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    Spy pictures now on the web of the V4 in road testing, only slightly disguised.

    First version will be the "R" variant and 1000cc. Cost upwards of $40k and made in enough volume to homologate for 2019.

    Rumors now are that Ducati will pull the same displacement trick they did on the previous street twins and up the displacement of the V4 in strada and S guise to be up to 1200cc. Cost will be only incrementally more than the outgoing 1299 and 1299S (I predict $21.5k and $27k, respectively).

    Going to 1200cc might make sense as it would allow it to have great midrange, and still huge peak hp numbers. With smaller, lighter valves and a bigger engine that doesn't need to rev to 15k, valve adjustment intervals may be at least as long as the best they offer. Imagine if it doesn't need valves adjusted for 20k miles, most of the original owners would never have to do it before trading it off in a couple of years.

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    The smaller and lighter valves of a four cylinder engine should require even less adjustment provided they stick to desmodromic operation and I cannot see than doing otherwise. Proof Honda has lost its way, well I guess just more proof. If Ducati sticks with 90 degrees v angle I will be a bit surprised but not shocked. For packaging a narrower angle would be better. The multi displacement thing is pretty smart too, win most superbike dyno competitions easily at 1200cc and say "only" 13 k rpm. Have most power and torque plus actual bottom end grunt for those discerning clientele for whom a mere 200 bhp is boring to.

    If ducati were super smart the crank phasing would be different between the bigger and standard size motors. A single plane crank like in the old RC30 series Honda motors would give that soulful sound so missing in many modern engines and Ducati sells a lot of machines based on looks and sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah / AF1 Racing View Post
    The smaller and lighter valves of a four cylinder engine should require even less adjustment provided they stick to desmodromic operation and I cannot see than doing otherwise. Proof Honda has lost its way, well I guess just more proof. If Ducati sticks with 90 degrees v angle I will be a bit surprised but not shocked. For packaging a narrower angle would be better. The multi displacement thing is pretty smart too, win most superbike dyno competitions easily at 1200cc and say "only" 13 k rpm. Have most power and torque plus actual bottom end grunt for those discerning clientele for whom a mere 200 bhp is boring to.

    If ducati were super smart the crank phasing would be different between the bigger and standard size motors. A single plane crank like in the old RC30 series Honda motors would give that soulful sound so missing in many modern engines and Ducati sells a lot of machines based on looks and sound.
    I thought about the "droner" vs "screamer" crank thing a couple of days ago and like you said it would further differentiate the R and normal models.

    It reportedly is still a 90 degree, but rotated back significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erick1670 View Post
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    That pipe looks like a leg-roaster.





    This was one I had found and posted on Ducati.ms 16 months ago. It will be interesting to see how close this is to the real thing.

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    God damn a 90 degree single plane crank would give the most soulful sound in all of motorcycling not involving a proper two stroke motor!

    My NC30 flat plane (360 degree droner crank on dyno)

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    Ahhhh beautiful music to my ears Micah!
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    Are we thinking the reveal or teaser is the Facebook Live event tonight and press announcement tomorrow at Duc island or am I daft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rvee View Post
    Are we thinking the reveal or teaser is the Facebook Live event tonight and press announcement tomorrow at Duc island or am I daft?
    This weekend is the Panigale Final Edition, basically a limited edition high dollar R model.

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