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    Diagnostic tool - Guzzidiag for RSV4

    Just letting anyone interested in diagnostic tool for RSV4 to know about very inexpensive alternative to Technoresearch Centurion. You can get the latest software here: http://www.von-der-salierburg.de/download/GuzziDiag/ There is also instructions of getting the adapter and how to install etc. You can find the adapter(s) in ebay for about 20 euros total.

    I have been testing it last few months on my RSV4, identifying channels etc. and letting Beard know what needs changing and so on. Beard has done good job on this! And there is more to come (throttle calibration etc.), stay tuned

    So to get it working with RSV4 you should choose California 1400 as the motorcycle (it has the same MM 7SM ECU as RSV4). At the moment you can read and clear faults, do some functional testing (for example turn on fuel pump, throttle/handle learning, read sensor data. There are still few channels I'm working on.

    If you get it running and have some comments, or improvement ideas, please let me know! I can forward wishes to the developer. If you like the software, there is donate button to send thanks to the developer, but otherwise the software is free.

    Just to clarify that I'm not selling anything here! I have just been testing Guzzidiag for Beard, since he don't a have bike with 7SM ecu. I just would like to people to know about this free (ok, 20 euros is not free..) tool that can save you from an expensive trip to dealer!
    Last edited by tomik; 06-19-2014 at 11:25 PM.

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    What interface do we need and what type of connection? Laptop?
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    Details are in the link above, but I noticed that the KKL to Guzzi adapter link is dead... You need OBD2 (KKL) to USB and OBD2 16-pin to 3-pin adapters.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Cable-KK..._Tools&vxp=mtr


    and
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Alfa-...item19d016e437

    These are just examples. You can find package deals with both in same package. Make sure that the OBD2 adapter has FTDI 232RL chip in it.

    I have Windows 7 laptop, but it should work with MacOS and Linux as well. I haven't tried..
    Last edited by tomik; 10-07-2014 at 01:05 PM. Reason: Updated link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonisss View Post
    The cable from Technoresearch should work with this software, correct?

    No only the ones that are in post 3: http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...=1#post3512915

    They are cheap (20$), and if you have the right one it's easy. No bluetooth or other fancy stuff.
    Any windows version from 2000 to 8.1 will do.

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    tomik:
    Could you confirm that these 2 cables will work with GuzziDiag:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/400461491858
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/161163162101
    The cables you've listed in your previous post can't be shipped to Canada and US
    Thanks

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    The 3-pin adapter is correct for sure, and the USB-KKL adapter looks right, but there are different versions of the FTDI chip in these adapters and it does not say which one it has (or does it even have FTDI chip..).
    Last edited by tomik; 12-01-2013 at 12:32 AM. Reason: Removed link to wrong adapter

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    the chip has to be ftdi 232rl.

    2 known working exaples, shipping worldwide
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FTDI-FT2...E/370453504187
    http://www.ebay.de/itm/AutoDia-K409-...item23293bda25

    3 pin fiat adapters are all the same, if they chinese didn't make a mounting error, no electronics inside.

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    These are shipped worldwide and tested with guzzidiag, the fiat 3 pin adapter is allways working


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FTDI-FT2...E/370453504187

    This one is send from Germany and works too:

    http://www.ebay.de/itm/AutoDia-K409-...item23293bda25

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomik View Post
    The 3-pin adapter is correct for sure, and the USB-KKL adapter looks right, but there are different versions of the FTDI chip in these adapters and it does not say which one it has (or does it even have FTDI chip..). Anyway if it has FTDI chip it is matter of getting the correct driver to go with it, so you should get it working regardless. I would install the FTDI driver that is listed at the end of guzzidiag web page before connecting the adapter to your PC, just to be sure and avoid having to uninstall the drivers Windows installs automatically.

    This one is correct: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3706237361...84.m1423.l2649
    do you have that one, because it has a 232BL chip, and I thought they don't work, only 232RL
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    Download Guzzidiag here: http://www.von-der-salierburg.de/download/GuzziDiag/

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauldayona View Post
    do you have that one, because it has a 232BL chip, and I thought they don't work, only 232RL
    Now I'm confused. Which one does work and which one does not: BL or RL? Or both work fine?

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    RL is a newer chip, BL is not good enough I think.
    Most time supporting Guzzidiag is gone to people buying wrong adapters. The ones sold through Amazon give most problems because you don't know what you get there. For them any KKL is the same.

    these ones were tested and work:


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FTDI-FT2...E/370453504187

    This one is send from Germany and works too:

    http://www.ebay.de/itm/AutoDia-K409-...item23293bda25
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    Download Guzzidiag here: http://www.von-der-salierburg.de/download/GuzziDiag/

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    Thanks Paul for getting the FTDI chip version straight! I actually copied the link above from your post on animaguzzista.com, but it could have been old information

    I have adapter listed on the post #3 and it works for sure. But they don't post to US / Canada.
    Last edited by tomik; 12-01-2013 at 12:49 AM.

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    Guys, my local parts shop has the adapter but said 'the earth cable is cut off, if the earth is on the middle pin it will work'

    Does anyone know if the earth is on the middle pin?

    They sent me this picture....

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    Pinout of the adapter: http://gallinago.free.fr/OBD-ALFA/Fi...20pin%20to.pdf

    Looking at the RSV4 wiring diagram the center pin of the diagnostic port is color coded as GND. So it should work in theory even without the separate GND clip..
    Last edited by tomik; 12-02-2013 at 03:32 AM.

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    So based on that, it says PIN 2 is ground. So the adapter I posted would indeed work?
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