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    just another Aprilia fanatic amauri's Avatar
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    When the camshafts are installed correctly and with the three dots aligned, there is only one possibility for the timing hole position.
    I'm not sure how to describe in detail how you'd know that you have the correctly alignment hole, the workshop manual explains it better than I can.

    Keep in mind that the IN camshafts are the same front or rear, but the EX cams are not the same.
    If you have the front EX cam in the rear and the rear cam in the front, the three dots will not line up correctly.
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    The manual says to always replace the marked screws with new ones when the camshaft was out for valve adjustment.
    Are there experience with that - do you always take new ones and what's the reason for that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmike_14 View Post
    The manual says to always replace the marked screws with new ones when the camshaft was out for valve adjustment.
    Are there experience with that - do you always take new ones and what's the reason for that?

    Most bolts these days are 'stretch bolts' designed to apply the correct torque to hold the components together, but can/should only be used once, for the price of the bolts and the damage that would happen if they did loosen I would just replace them

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    Thank you for the answer, Mike! I think you are right.

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    Getting ready to buy tools for valve adjustment for 2016 Tuono 1100. I've read the Factory Service Manual and all the threads, and believe I understand the procedure. A few questions remain. I assume I have the Kokusan flywheel on my bike and will need the flywheel puller (020913Y) and the flywheel holding tool (020914Y), to remove the flywheel to install the crank timing pin tool. The Service Manual states that you can't use the crank timing pin to hold the crankshaft, that you have to use the primary gear lock tool (020850Y). You have to remove the clutch to install the primary gear lock tool. Is this really needed? Can you loosen and tighten the cam gear retaining bolts while just using the crank timing pin tool to hold the crank in position? Or will this method damage the crank timing pin?
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    Hi everyone
    just wanted to share
    today recieved a call from a friend
    he made valve check on aprilia rsv4 factory 11,000km (6500miles)
    and all valves were in the right spec

    the most interesting is the fact i was riding that bike during break in period (first 600) miles
    and i wiuld hardly follow the instructions in the manual not to exceed 7000 rpm

    i was riding it few times on speed more that 140 miles
    then the bike was sold and after me the owner was doing race track days

    so to those who had bad experience with the valves i just wanted to say that you never know what to expect

    ps:the only oil that was used factory line 300v
    the owner compains about evaporation of the oil
    like 200ml for 1500 km
    but i always heard that its a common thing for the 300v and they have that kind of thing in common

    i was having the same issue on my 2012 aprc

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    Some supplemental info for anyone buying tools & parts for this job.

    1: The camshaft gear holder PN;028065Y is superseded to new part number: 020956Y
    http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scrip...dproduct=17381
    This updated version looks a lot slimmer; so possibly may not need adjustment (grinding) to fit front cyl bank in frame.


    2:
    2-) 897443 v/c gasket
    6-) 898410 bolt gasket
    4-) 857074 plug hole to cover gasket
    4-) 857043 cam tower o-ring

    The group of gaskets & O-rings above comes as a kit; Valve Cover Gasket Kit for RSV4 & Tuono V4 (AF1-897443)
    http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scrip...dproduct=74038
    The kit is the same price as buying the individual items, just saves time in listing the quantities & PN of each item.

    3: There is now a gasket for the Alternator/stator cover for 09-16 RSV4 as an alternative to the Aprilia Corse part number COMK060597.
    Stator Cover Gasket - 09-16 RSV4 & 11-16 Tuono V4 (AF1-GS898414)
    http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scrip...dproduct=74226

    4: The replacement camshaft gear securing bolts can be found by searching the following Part number: 857008 - Should be same bolts for all models, however check the Parts Guide PDF for your model before ordering.
    http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scrip...dproduct=16418


    All these parts are available at AF1 online shop. The parts guide PDF for individual models, with pics & part numbers is free to view or download.
    http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scrip...dCategory=2993

    Hope this saves someone some time as it took me a while to find all these bits.

    Thanks to amauri for putting the original posts & thread together.
    Thanks to Mrs amauri for the Valve adjustment log.
    Last edited by plocky; 09-05-2017 at 01:31 AM. Reason: correct Valve over gasket Part number
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    Quote Originally Posted by plocky View Post
    Hope this saves someone some time as it took me a while to find all these bits.

    Thanks to amauri for putting the original posts & thread together.
    Thanks to Mrs amauri for the Valve adjustment log.
    Just an FYI - if anyone needs any supplemental info I have a really comprehensive document compiled here that includes part numbers, tools required, adjustment procedure, and tips.
    http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...ed-Walkthrough

    But yes, big thanks to amauri for getting the ball rolling for me and many of the rest of us.

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    ------UPDATE--------

    Looks like Aprilia re-positioned the LH side screw hole for the crankshaft timing pin.
    They moved it away from the flywheel just far enough so that removing the Kokusan type flywheel is no longer necessary like it was with previous engines.

    I started seeing this a few months ago while servicing and adjusting valves on some of the newest serial number engines.

    So make sure you ck before you remove the flywheel needlessly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amauri View Post
    ------UPDATE--------

    Looks like Aprilia re-positioned the LH side screw hole for the crankshaft timing pin.
    They moved it away from the flywheel just far enough so that removing the Kokusan type flywheel is no longer necessary like it was with previous engines.

    I started seeing this a few months ago while servicing and adjusting valves on some of the newest serial number engines.

    So make sure you ck before you remove the flywheel needlessly.
    Is this change for 2016 model year in the US? Tuono 1100, or does it go back to any of the Tuono 1000 V4s? Would you have a serial# for an engine with the update, so we can figure if our engine was likely updated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amauri View Post
    ------UPDATE--------

    Looks like Aprilia re-positioned the LH side screw hole for the crankshaft timing pin.
    They moved it away from the flywheel just far enough so that removing the Kokusan type flywheel is no longer necessary like it was with previous engines.

    I started seeing this a few months ago while servicing and adjusting valves on some of the newest serial number engines.

    So make sure you ck before you remove the flywheel needlessly.
    do you know what are newest serial number engines? i would be happy if i can avoid buying extra tools i won't need for the valve job.
    thanks

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    I don't know when this change was made, and to my knowledge Aprilia has not provided a list of serial numbers.

    I've asked Aprilia's Tech dept here in the USA to see if Italy can provide the engine serial numbers where the change began.
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    i can confirm that tuono factory 2016 engine #3374 doesn't need removal of the flywheel for the crankshaft timing pin

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    i just lathe shave the flywheel flat on any bike i work on... so it's removal is needed only at first time, timing pin will fit.

    anyway, that movement of the pin position on lastest motor is a good thing
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