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    Quote Originally Posted by kzmille View Post
    No, there is no variation. All Mille, RSVR, Tuono, Falco, Futura, etc. V60 equipped bikes have always had full compliment bearings in the suspension linkage and that's what you get if you buy oem parts.
    "Full Compliment", so do you mean you just get a handful of needle rollers?

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    It means there is no room for anything else. No room for even one more needle, roller, or ball as the case may be. Bicycles commonly use full complement bearings for steering, wheel bearings, and crank spindles in some instances.

    http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/p...newlink=1_4_81

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzmille View Post
    It means there is no room for anything else. No room for even one more needle, roller, or ball as the case may be. Bicycles commonly use full complement bearings for steering, wheel bearings, and crank spindles in some instances.

    http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/p...newlink=1_4_81

    I'm very farmilar with what a Full Compliment Bearing is. However, whether Cylindrical Roller or Needle Roller, they all must have some form of retention. Your link is to the NCF series Cyl' Roller Bearing that has an outer and inner ring assembly, so whilst no cage, the OR Aand IR hold the whole shooting match together, but not relervant to what we are looking at here, as we are looking at needle rollers.

    Have a look at,

    http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/p...&newlink=1_5_0

    this shows the types of needle rollers available. If it is a caged type, it is not Full Compliment. If it is a Drawn Cup type, it can be Full Compliment.

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    Really don't know what you are arguing about Nonno, the bearings we are talking about are indeed drawn cup needle roller bearings with open ends.

    just like this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by kzmille View Post
    Really don't know what you are arguing about Nonno, the bearings we are talking about are indeed drawn cup needle roller bearings with open ends.

    just like this:

    That is the plain and simple answer I've been looking for, all has been revealed, thanks.

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    Has anyone tried KTM part 56503094400? It is listed as NEEDLE BEARING HK 1812 V AS1. It is an 18x12x24 needle bearing and the V is supposed to designate a full compliment drawn cup bearing, but I'm not sure what the AS1 means. They are $9.44 each at KTMWorld.com vs $13.99 each from Aprilia for AP8110065.
    1999 (sold as a 2000 model in USA) RSV Mille Tricolor with Ohlins radial forks, 4 pad Brembo radial calipers, 16mm radial Brembo brake master, Ohlins shock with remote hydraulic preload, KTM sprag, Gen2 blue anodized forged aluminum OZ radial wheels, dual link modified 2-1 collector, Akrapovic slipon, 57mm Gen1 air box, Gen2 57mm TBs, 60mm tall Gen2 Tuono velocity stacks, Gabro A2BF EPROM, Falco clipons, long stem RS125 mirrors, 17/42 sprockets, carbon fiber front fender, rear hugger, chain guard, heel guards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanV990 View Post
    Has anyone tried KTM part 56503094400? It is listed as NEEDLE BEARING HK 1812 V AS1. It is an 18x12x24 needle bearing and the V is supposed to designate a full compliment drawn cup bearing, but I'm not sure what the AS1 means. They are $9.44 each at KTMWorld.com vs $13.99 each from Aprilia for AP8110065.
    HK is INA nomenclature, and the HK series is not Full Compliment and I think the V actually refers to cage material (Polyamide). The AS1 indicates a lube hole in the cup. For Full Complement, INA nomenclature starts off with HN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonno View Post
    HK is INA nomenclature, and the HK series is not Full Compliment and I think the V actually refers to cage material (Polyamide). The AS1 indicates a lube hole in the cup. For Full Complement, INA nomenclature starts off with HN.
    Apparently Torrington uses the HK prefix too. http://rsvzone.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5129.html

    This listing shows HK1812V as being full complement. http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/pro...ucts_id=188104
    1999 (sold as a 2000 model in USA) RSV Mille Tricolor with Ohlins radial forks, 4 pad Brembo radial calipers, 16mm radial Brembo brake master, Ohlins shock with remote hydraulic preload, KTM sprag, Gen2 blue anodized forged aluminum OZ radial wheels, dual link modified 2-1 collector, Akrapovic slipon, 57mm Gen1 air box, Gen2 57mm TBs, 60mm tall Gen2 Tuono velocity stacks, Gabro A2BF EPROM, Falco clipons, long stem RS125 mirrors, 17/42 sprockets, carbon fiber front fender, rear hugger, chain guard, heel guards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanV990 View Post
    Apparently Torrington uses the HK prefix too. http://rsvzone.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5129.html

    This listing shows HK1812V as being full complement. http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/pro...ucts_id=188104
    Ahh, well there you go, all good. We don't see much Torrington here, mainly INA, so I wasn't aware of the cross over.

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    Now i find one of the shafts is marked badly.This was going to be so easy .No wonder the handling was feeling strange .

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