2012 edition of not starting

[Stanleybobly]

Ok, I'd admit. It runned last year 10k km, without any major problems
just a tiny o-ring on the injector blewed/melted away .

this year, after not starting the bike in 3 months orso , the bike won't pressurize the fuel pump
I just hear a little & very short chizzling that's it.
it did a few weaks ago the same, after 20 times ignition on of it did the normal chizzling sound of the pump and it started.

I pulled everything out
maybe it's not wiring in the fuelpump
it was ok, measurements reads out the wire is alive. (or not)
12v on the pumps give a spin, not noisy thoo... (or should I hear a vacuumcleaner )

the boot of wiring is looking like this


soft & spongy, ethanol is doing it's job, that's why Caponord is not compatible with E10 fuel
the o-ring a bit leaky on the pic. so need the swap that one too, with a Viton ring

the corrugated pipe looked fine. filter is 8k km old.

I'll going to check the injectors.....

[Stanleybobly]

update :

found the cause of not priming the fuel pump

it was this little bastard

it works, but sometimes it don't
so have a spare in your bike, this thing is unreliable
although it says MADE IN JAPAN

[the_toe_cutter]

Good find Stanley! Find any affordable replacement online anyhwere? I must buy a spare to carry!

[Stanleybobly]

the relay is exactly the same as on my Aprilia SR50 scooter
your scooter shop has it also.

fleabeey 1
fleabuy 2
fleubeay 3

GENUINE HONDA PART

[chrisonord]

I had a similar problem with the relay on mine too, went and got one from a breakers near me, but have just got a spare one from ebay, as you never knowhow long it could last
Chris.

[Stu_O]

GENUINE HONDA PART

Right. I was going to tell you that, but you've already discovered it. 198 different Honda models use that relay, so there's a good chance a Honda dealer might have it on the shelf - part # 38501-GN2-014.

Stu

[JohnG.]

...and for those still looking for it...



BTW,Middle relays are the same ?
& what does the 'diode block' do?

[JohnG.]

Right. I was going to tell you that, but you've already discovered it. 198 different Honda models use that relay, so there's a good chance a Honda dealer might have it on the shelf - part # 38501-GN2-014.

Stu

Stu,Yup,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-TRX-...item45f914bd0b

Stanley,
Great info,thx

[BigAdam]

STU-every time I see your posts I think you are in fact Kevin Costner, just hiding under sunglasses

[JohnG.]

A quick google reveals...


ORIGINAL PART NUMBERS:
Aprilia: 8224462, formerly 8212469 just checked & edited,the rest must be accurate being from the 'net
BSV: 38501-GN2-003
Cagiva: Y00-FA0-295 Y00-FA1-354
Honda: 38501-GN2-003/014 (although 38501-GN2-014 seems to work)
Kymco: 38501-GN2-003 001-60-003 38501-GW2-900 001-69-208
Peugeot: 712956 724154 712645
Suzuki: 31800-29C00/03A00 25E00/16A10

Also Kawasaki 1100 & 750 and most MTD,Bolens etc ride-on mowers...used as a general lights/EFI/fuel pump/starter relay

[Stu_O]

...& what does the 'diode block' do?

It's part of the starting safety system involving the clutch lever switch, sidestand switch, neutral switch.

[Stu_O]

STU-every time I see your posts I think you are in fact Kevin Costner, just hiding under sunglasses

Darn! Now I'll need to use a different screen name and picture.

Kevin