Aussie riders beware

[glenfullston]

Go Swanny!!!!!

[pete roper]

While I happily concur that police/government policy on this issue is barking mad and driven solely by revenue raising surely an easier way to deal with the issue is just go and find new roads to ride that are less heavily policed?

I noted that it was suggested that the owner of a property on this road 'invited' the walloper to set up there. Could there possibly be a reason for this? Like when he's trying to leave his driveway at the weekend he feels like he's playing Russian roulette because he doesn't know if if some 'Leather-clad God of Speed' is going to come around the corner at warp speed and embed themselves in the side of his car, maybe with his family on board ?

I don't know the road apart from by reputation but living where I do I can tell you that on summer mornings having the 'Loud Pipes Save Lives' and track day wannabes howling past yer door is a right royal PITA.

Respect goes both ways. It's why I don't ride the Cotter Loop south of Canberra or the Putty any more. Make yerself a smaller target. It's not bloody rocket science. And no, I don't wear a dayglo vest, only ride at the speed limit and perennially hover at the edge of license loss so I don't need a lecture about how I'm too old and too slow thanks.

Pete

And no, I'm not going to advise you where some good, unpoliced, riders roads are because then they won't be

[Guz]

I agree whole heartedly with what your saying pete. It's the minority of motorcyclists thata are idiots.
We only ride the mountain 3 or 4 times a year just for something different.

I understand the roz wanting to rid areas of the idiots and so they should. They're the ones that bring the grief to the rest of us.

Should we be feeling like ducks in hunting season when we want to ride a particular road?
It seems the Police are determined to book riders. If not for speed, then a key left in the ignition or an incorrect rear mudguard will do.
This confirms the "revenue raising" theory and has little or nothing to do with road safety.

[pete roper]

I agree whole heartedly with what your saying pete. It's the minority of motorcyclists thata are idiots.
We only ride the mountain 3 or 4 times a year just for something different.

I understand the roz wanting to rid areas of the idiots and so they should. They're the ones that bring the grief to the rest of us.

Should we be feeling like ducks in hunting season when we want to ride a particular road?
It seems the Police are determined to book riders. If not for speed, then a key left in the ignition or an incorrect rear mudguard will do.
This confirms the "revenue raising" theory and has little or nothing to do with road safety.

Agree wholeheartedly but the area in question is no longer a sparsely populated rural zone AFAIK. Like a lot of areas within 100+ km of our urban centres the roads *We* rode as deserted publicly funded hoon tubes twenty years ago are now exercises in bucolic fantasy for social climbing piss-ants who measure their quality of life by the size of their house and the number of ponies they can supply their revolting offspring. These are the same people who think that 100kph is a perfectly good speed limit and stick to it religiously through my small town, including past the school at chucking out time.

It's not a matter of *Us* winning or loosing, the battle against slavish, cattle-like acceptance of idiocy is well and truly lost. If we want to continue riding fast on the road we just have to be smarter about the where and when. And remember, your maximum speed is stored in the dashboard. How long will it be before that becomes evidence admissible in court? I know whenever I get a tug by plod my first action is to clear the dash memory.

Pete

[speedfiend41]

While I happily concur that police/government policy on this issue is barking mad and driven solely by revenue raising surely an easier way to deal with the issue is just go and find new roads to ride that are less heavily policed?

I noted that it was suggested that the owner of a property on this road 'invited' the walloper to set up there. Could there possibly be a reason for this? Like when he's trying to leave his driveway at the weekend he feels like he's playing Russian roulette because he doesn't know if if some 'Leather-clad God of Speed' is going to come around the corner at warp speed and embed themselves in the side of his car, maybe with his family on board ?

I don't know the road apart from by reputation but living where I do I can tell you that on summer mornings having the 'Loud Pipes Save Lives' and track day wannabes howling past yer door is a right royal PITA.

Respect goes both ways. It's why I don't ride the Cotter Loop south of Canberra or the Putty any more. Make yerself a smaller target. It's not bloody rocket science. And no, I don't wear a dayglo vest, only ride at the speed limit and perennially hover at the edge of license loss so I don't need a lecture about how I'm too old and too slow thanks.

Pete

And no, I'm not going to advise you where some good, unpoliced, riders roads are because then they won't be

Agreed mate. Here in Adelaide we have some amazing roads only 20 minutes from the CBD, including the Gorge Road etc. I don go anywhere near the more popular ones, especially on the weekends! There are literally hundreds of well surfaced, challenging and more importantly, desolate roads up there - I pick the ones that are least used.

On a side note - what's the offence for leaving your keys in your bike?!

[scott2ride]

This is exactly why NZ is so awesome

[GUV]

This is exactly why NZ is so awesome

I do have to agree with regards to the South Is, it's just one big playground although you do have to watch out for cops that do Uturns on blind bends. I was over riding Northlands a couple of weeks ago and its a little heavily policed, in saying that it was around your Queens birthday weekend.

[pete roper]

On a side note - what's the offence for leaving your keys in your bike?!

Yeah? Was wondering about that! When my 1100 Griso was new I left it parked in Queanbeyan, (Ancient word meaning 'Place of the fat dole-bludger'.) for three hours with the key in it by mistake! One of the great things about Guzzis, they're so odd not even crack-heads will steal them!!

Pete

[scott2ride]

I do have to agree with regards to the South Is, it's just one big playground although you do have to watch out for cops that do Uturns on blind bends. I was over riding Northlands a couple of weeks ago and its a little heavily policed, in saying that it was around your Queens birthday weekend.

You just need to know where to ride. The main routes are always policed, but there are not many police and good back roads are not ptroled as so few people on them make it uneconomic for their revenue gathering.

We can go all day without seeing the rozzas

[JDRSV]

This is exactly why NZ is so awesome

And tassie too.
but the winter sucks

[stu_h]

And tassie too.

West coast is amazing....

[faramir]

I know whenever I get a tug by plod my first action is to clear the dash memory.

Pete

Me too.....

[swannie007]

Good idea. It's a shame they can possibly use this information against you. However, if I were a lawyer I would argue that the plod didn't actually take the measurement with a calibrated speed detecting device so the evidence might not actually be admissible in court due to a technicality. However, I am not a lawyer and it's easier to just clear the dash memory. Thanks for the tip Pete.

[speedfiend41]

Yeah? Was wondering about that! When my 1100 Griso was new I left it parked in Queanbeyan, (Ancient word meaning 'Place of the fat dole-bludger'.) for three hours with the key in it by mistake! One of the great things about Guzzis, they're so odd not even crack-heads will steal them!!

Pete

So - are we getting an answer to the question or is it just a load of shit to reinforce the 'cops are just picking on us' line??

[pete roper]

So - are we getting an answer to the question or is it just a load of shit to reinforce the 'cops are just picking on us' line??

Don't be silly, we're just whining. Although I too would love to know what form of illegality one is indulging in by leaving ones keys in the ignition? Pulling 'em out and plunging them into the walloper's beer gut? Understandable but yes sadly still a crime, but simply leaving them in the ignition?

Pete