there are more bikes but thats not an excuse for the fuel pump fail.Originally Posted by sunblock
the same fuel is used by every single bike in greece..but such a high number of failures,only strada have.
there are more bikes but thats not an excuse for the fuel pump fail.
the same fuel is used by every single bike in greece..but such a high number of failures,only strada have.
I think it can be related to the higher temperature you get there
Well, I've been running 2 Trails for nearly 3 weeks in the US in temps around the 30s, no issues yet, even if it tured out I miscalculated the fuel octane level (been using 89 instead of 91). No sign of problems yet. Higher temps ahead as we go south.
ytc
I trust you are aware that the US uses a different octane numbering system - their numbers are about 0.95 times "our" numbers.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
Hows the trip going?
Frodo
2006 Pegaso Trail
New Zealand
There seems to be a lot of burying heads in the sand. As I have mentioned many times, the pump issue is one of weak design. The pumps regularly fail if moved in any way. They rarely give issues in normal use but if the bike is dropped or the tank is removed then the bike is much more likely to exhibit issues. This is a known problem. There is a workaround fix, ie hitting the tank trips the relay and lets the bike start. This is a design issue. Play around with spreadsheets all you want and blame fuel or temperature. The XT has a plastic pump housing, the Peg has a cheap electric motor in a bag. How many know failures on the latest rotax BMW? None. This is a design flaw.
I actually came back here because I still have my failed Peg. I can't bring myself to sell it. Now a mate wants it. After 8 months it fired first time and ran perfectly. I came back because I was hoping someone had found a good replacement and the issue was resolved and I'm a bit disappointed that people are still trying to find excuses. I ride a BMW now. If there is a problem part on a Beemer people complain to the factory and find a replacement for the compromised part until BMW recall it under warranty. There is no shame in a design fault so long as the factory admit to it. A design flaw is pretty much inevitable and this cheap design simply didn't work so there should be a workaround. I think it's a shame that people are making the same comments they were months ago. I was hoping there was a fix now, thee would have been on a BMW.
Good job you own a BMW eh?
As the Pegaso is an out going model i highly doubt Aprilia will do anything about it anyway. I love mine, but i didn't pick Aprilia for their great support.
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I also own a Peg, it's been a runner/non-runner for 8 months and I can't bring myself to sell it because in almost every way I rate it higher than an XT for less money. The downside is the build quality is poor in some areas and that is why they screw up.
Now I have a BMW and it's quicker, lighter and trouble-free but you pay twice as much for it and like all Beemers it's uncomfortable and uncompromising. Those problems I can live with but you pay your money and you take your choice.
My point though is Beemer riders wouldn't let Aprilia blame Greek petrol and if a better pump fitted then they would be fitting it. This Saab part looks promising though.
Actually in this thread you can read what is the problem and how to fix it.
The problem: too small fuel pump, i did a check of available fuel pumps in the Pegaso size and on the one i found it was written that it is not suitable for motorizes vehicles, your theory of removing the tank or an impact to the pump that cause the failure is in correct and it was proven in this thread,
i removed my tank several times and the pump still running.
The solution: an 80 Euro car fuel pump and 2 hands.
As far as i know every Pegaso that had a failure in the warranty time had a new pump fitted free of charged.
I had a 1000 v strom and it was eating clutch baskets, first time was under warranty the second time i sold the bike, Suzuki have made 5 different clutch basket revisions and they all sucks, until today there are forum members that are trying to fix the problem and the costs are more then the 80 euro pump.
Yes, I new about the diffs, and the ron+mon/2, I just had a brain fart and came up with 89 instead of 91, buying 93 now and all is fine.
Well, nearly all fine, any one any clues as to why when I switch to full beam I blow the 15Amp fuse ?
Currently in the southern US, at Panama City Beach, a small event is going on :-)
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Mine died literally 24 hours after the warranty expired and did so because I dislodged the tank. The fuel pump occasionally touches the side now and cuts out. It doesn't help that the same motor is used to power small toy cars.
My Husqvarna is a 2010 model, has 100 miles on it, bike won't run 15 miles before it dies from lack of gas. Turn it off and back on, no fuel pump whir, no gas, no run. Pump is a 30mm just like the Aprilia RXV/SXV. Working with a guy to find these, now I am about to give up finding them since they appear to be too small. BTW, I believe the pumps run 100% of the time after starting and the pressure regulation is in the form of a hole that drains off excess pressure, just my guess.
First pic courtesy Michael from sub-forum RXV/SXV
Is this a viable option or am I repeating another post....
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/ca...cati/fuel.html
Fuel Pumps
After failing to find a reasonable replacement for the costly OEM Ducati EFI fuel pump, we commissioned these pumps to be made for us! Exact replacement for all "holster type" fuel pumps on Ducatis with the fuel pump flange plate. Exact replacement for these Ducati models: MH900e (all years), S2R1000, S2R800, 999, 749, Multistrada MTS, Hypermotard HM, S4Rs. Also compatible with all "metal tank" Monsters and SSie models (the OEM pump has shorter length but is not a problem because the pump is clamped along the body). Standard pump designed for use at 3.5 bar (Ducati spec), while HP pump is 4.5 bar for use on racing engines with modified pressure valves. Dealer inquiries welcome. Mikuni fuel pump is good substitute for carb'd Monsters. description fitment pn price
efi Fuel Pump Most 2000+ FP-DUC $149.00
Name: Mark
Country: NZ
Fuel pump problem: Yes
Production date: 2008 Strada
Miles / km (specify): 17.000km
Owned since miles / 17.000km: 0km
Know about previous history: n/a
Times the bike ran out of fuel: o
Fuel quality (good / okay / poor): Okay
Fuel filter replaced: Never
Pump fuel screen: No
Ethanol in fuel: 0% - Not sure
Dropped bike: slight left side
I bought this bike this week from a liquidated dealer, it had been sitting for a good while and I have no idea the history. Battery was dead and finished so it had been dormant for a good while. Got it turning over with a spark still no go as I wasn't sure if it was an immobilser issue. Took tank off and found the wire to the tank was disconnected, connected and off we go. Had a bit run around seemed to be working took for test (passed) took to garage filled up with some fresh fuel it started and then I pulled over and it wouldn't go. After a while it went and a good thrashing its fine. Next day fine, short run to the shop fine came back nothing! Read on here a smack to the tank, tried it and we are off. It all makes sense now as to why it was disconnected in the first place. I see a new pump is the thick end of $1000 so need some help, all advice welcomed, Cheers Mark
Hi Mark,
Bummer about the fuel pump failure, but meanwhile there's a lot of information over here how you can avoid spending big bucks on an original fuel pump assembly. It's not rocket science, If you kinda understand how the efi system works, do your own brakes and regular maintenance just go for it and fix it yourself.
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