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    Did it all at once. I ran with the 2 pad calipers on the 320mm discs until my brake line got shipped. There was a different "bite" area after switching from the 2 pad calipers to 4 pad, hence the reason I believe there is a difference between the calipers.

    Not trying to start a pissing match.....just my experience.

    Was there a difference noticed? It would be hard to determine since I put the brake line on and new calipers. The overall braking from stock Futura to the latter setup was night and day better.
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    I didn't really mean what I said. Well, to an extent I did. But mostly I was being Devil's Advocate. I think we are all guilty sometimes of spending too much time (and money!) fettling our bikes, and not enough on riding them.

    I like to fettle as much as the next man. Well, maybe not quite as much as the average next man. My improvements are limited to a more powerful starter relay, a souped-up battery, and an MPL clutch slave. All of which arguably make the Futura better at what it does. I suppose better brakes and suspension would do likewise, providing the suspension is just as plush.

    Me, I'm happy with the brakes and suspension but then having come from two 1980s vintage Triumphs I don't know any better!
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    Best money ever spent on a bike but have had several done over the years OW01,EXUP,GSX R,S etc although you dont have a remote adjuster taking the missus on the back requires one turn of the preload ring with a small screwdriver like tool(supplied) hay presto,infact there is more room around the shock area than stock + this is a custom built shock to your weight etc,had the forks done now the bike is like its on rails!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Sliding off topic - how in the hell do you guys keep that rear shock area so clean?? Mine is trashed and it doesn't matter how much I clean it, it stays trashed.

    I know a rear hugger would do wonders but jeez!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkansawyer View Post
    Did it all at once. I ran with the 2 pad calipers on the 320mm discs until my brake line got shipped. There was a different "bite" area after switching from the 2 pad calipers to 4 pad, hence the reason I believe there is a difference between the calipers.

    Not trying to start a pissing match.....just my experience.

    Was there a difference noticed? It would be hard to determine since I put the brake line on and new calipers. The overall braking from stock Futura to the latter setup was night and day better.
    Did my Marzocchi fork, 320 discs and steel line upgrade all at once too. I was initially disappointed with the brakes; they felt no different around town. But they literally caused me to be a gear too high on the apex of the first turn I really used them hard on when they slowed me down way quicker with lot less effort than the old setup ever could. Took a couple times to get used to it, but WOW, I LOVE it!

    Pissing match? No way man. I just assumed you could use the same lines with the 4-pad setup, and I'm glad to know you can't.

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    Best way to upgrade your brakes is with this 19mm Brembo master cylinder,nothing wrong with std calipers with a good pad + braided lines.
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    Brakes....- New pads that are worth a damn. EBC's (in my opinion) suck monkey balls. Vesrah pads rock, and I am running Carrbone Lorraine SBK5 pads on mine and like them. I have HEL braided lines as well.

    Front end- Springs and Gold Valves will do the trick for the least money output, but it will still be inferior to a better set of forks of course.

    Shock- I am running a Penske and am pretty damned happy with the rear.

    I still have a completely stock front end with the exception of brake pads and I am perfectly capable of embarrasing most on sport bikes with it. Still, I want to upgrade the front end and will most likely do it with Gold Valves and springs only.
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    I don,t know how much hassle it would be for you but if you could be bothered to send your forks over here to www.maxton.netspinners.co.uk I would be sure you would be amazed by the difference, I did it by buying a second set of forks and leaving them with them for 2 weeks when the snow was down,when they stripped the inards out one of my std damper units was snapped this was after 30,000 hard miles! Their pedigree is legendary around here as they probably prepare more bikes suspension here fot The TT + British Road racing than any other specialists ,when I have been there there are endless sets of forks + shocks by all the big suspension manufactures being set up for individuals,you gotta remember when you buy a shock it is only set up for Joe Public + not yourself (I have seen a few Wilburs inc. ask for use,weight etc) but Maxton excel at the personal service + attention to detail.
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    I didn't really mean what I said. Well, to an extent I did. But mostly I was being Devil's Advocate. I think we are all guilty sometimes of spending too much time (and money!) fettling our bikes, and not enough on riding them.
    I guessed that much, hence the

    You sounded like a wife there briefly: " But do you really need this, dear? "

    I rode my bike daily for the first three years, used it for rides and winter commuting for the next three years. I haven't been to 15 countries on it. Somehow that never came up.

    As to that question about keeping a shock clean, I'll post a pic of mine before I send it to Technoflex to have a new spring fitted and the shock serviced. The spring looks pretty bad. The rest is still in perfect condition.


    The fork legs look equally terrible after 6 salty winters. But at least they still perfom very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motech View Post
    Improved braking and handling make for more pleasurable touring, especially sport touring.

    Leave your Prius stock. Upgrade your motorbikes to your heart's content.



    This is patently false. Calipers are totally interchangeable, as long as they are not radial mount forks.

    Maybe you meant discs?

    When swapping Falco, Tuono or older Mille forks to Futura, only the discs must be changed. Everything else--calipers, triple clamps, hoses, fender, axle, wheel... Everything--it's all transferable.

    This is such a simple upgrade, it literally takes more time and energy to research and debate than actually doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkansawyer View Post
    Easy....pick up a set of Mille/Falco front forks and rotors then install. Get yourself a custom stainless steel brake line to complete and Robert is your dad's brother.
    Quote Originally Posted by Motech View Post
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    Pick up a used Marzocchi fork from a 2003 Falco. This will require larger 320 mm discs, then have some steel-braided hoses custom made at a local hydraulic hose shop (cheaper than buying ready-made, and they will fit)
    Quote Originally Posted by ride200mi View Post
    To the OP;
    You can bolt on the Tuono and Falco front forks (Showa). You will need to change the front disks to the 320 mm.
    BINGO!

    Except for that part about Robert being your dad's brother. (he may be your half-second cousin on your mother's side)



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    well guys many thanks for all the input, i am impressed.

    Now i need to get a shopping list written out and see what i can find, you probably have not heard the end of this guys, thanks again
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    Best way to upgrade your brakes is with this 19mm Brembo master cylinder
    Is it bolt on? Is there a part number, or is it purchased via the description?

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    I have one of those Brambo masters sitting on a shelf. I was going to use it on the track bike but maybe I should use it on the Fut instead?



    Naw.... I can do stoppies with it as it is...
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    Where do you get the Carrbone Lorraine SBK5 pads? Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by meanstrk View Post
    Brakes....- New pads that are worth a damn. EBC's (in my opinion) suck monkey balls. Vesrah pads rock, and I am running Carrbone Lorraine SBK5 pads on mine and like them. I have HEL braided lines as well.

    Front end- Springs and Gold Valves will do the trick for the least money output, but it will still be inferior to a better set of forks of course.

    Shock- I am running a Penske and am pretty damned happy with the rear.

    I still have a completely stock front end with the exception of brake pads and I am perfectly capable of embarrasing most on sport bikes with it. Still, I want to upgrade the front end and will most likely do it with Gold Valves and springs only.
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