Edit: this turns out to be nothing to do with my Meta alarm!
Okay, there are a few people who have had problems with the Meta 357T. Especially when they have, or have had a low battery.
Meta 357T alarm removal
No Go - Anyone got a Meta 357T alarm fitted?
emergency help - Meta 357T alarm wiring
But I have a symptom, and consequent problem, which does not seem to be covered by those threads: Having installed a new battery and starter solenoid/relay, the little red alarm/immobiliser LED light is not lit; it flashes not. The engine won't start on the button of course, otherwise I wouldn't be here, it won't even try to spin. I believe this is down to the alarm/immobiliser. NB up until now, the little red LED light on the RH "dash" has always winked at me every time I opened the garage door. If I ever forgot to squeeze the remote, the engine would refuse even to spin let alone fire up. But now, the LED light is dead. And so too, it seems, is the bike.
Like many people, I use my bike less over the winter. Much less. It's stored in a cold garage, with no power, so no trickle-charger. It has a Meta 357T alarm/immobiliser fitted that presumably trickle-drains the battery, even though I have had it not on "alarm" but on "immobilise". The battery, a Varta YTX12-BS, is a few years old (don't know exactly, bought the bike 2½ years ago with it already fitted). The starter money was no longer spinning the engine like it used to, and the RH instrument panel had been faint and unreliable for a while. You know where this is going...
A couple of months ago the starter solenoid/relay under the seat started to make the occasional click when starting, then one day all it would do was make a rapid clicking/ticking sound, without even trying to spin the engine. I knew my starter relay was probably on its way out, but thought a stronger battery could keep me going in the short term. I removed the battery and charged it up. Then it snowed. A lot.
I didn't refit the battery for over a week, and when I did... nothing at all. Well, lights were okay, but I couldn't even get the relay to click, let alone get the engine to spin. I am afraid I cannot be sure whether the LED light was flashing at this point. I believe I tried to press the remote as usual to remobilise(?) the immobiliser(!) but heard no sound (which rang warning bells, in the past it has always bleeped) and carried on. I'm now guessing the immobiliser had already gone to sleep or something, and did not wake up when I turned the key.
I tried, for the first time ever, the short-the-relay-with-a-screwdriver trick. It worked. Sort-of. The engine spun, quite briskly too, but it did not even try to start. Not even a sputter. Which is most unusual. If the Futura has ever been slow to start in the past, it has always at least had the courtesy to cough and spit a little. I have fuel in the tank. It's a couple of months old, but it's still fuel. So, I'm thinking I have fuel and I have a starter, but something is almost certainly preventing the spark plugs from firing. Obvious candidate (in hindsight): the immobiliser. Edit: found this statement on a forum from someone who seemed to know what he was talking about: The immobiliser has two circuits - one interupts the ignition, the other interupts the starter motor relay circuit.
Some people on the forum advise checking everything before spending money - and I can identify with that philosophy! - but by my reckoning, both the battery and the starter relay were well past their youth, and could usefully be replaced. Especially since improved versions of both were available - a 100Amp relay instead of the OE 50Amp, and a YTZ14S battery (230cca) instead of the OE YTX12-BS (180cca).
So I ordered a new (100Amp) starter relay and a new battery - a Yuasa YTZ14S
I have now slow-charged the new YTZ14S battery and installed both it and the new relay, making sure all connections are tight. Some of the threads I was able to find mentioned extra wires going to the solenoid from the alarm/immobiliser unit - wherever that is hidden - but I've never noticed any in two years of seat-lifting - not that I'd ever looked for any. And I didn't notice any extra wires when I first started playing with the old relay.
Anyway, there is still no LED light, flashing or otherwise, and whilst the lights can be turned on (and are nicely bright), the bike won't even try to spin on the starter. No clicking from the relay either, but then I wouldn't have expected that. Note: since I installed the new battery and relay, I have not re-tried the short-the-relay-with-a-screwdriver trick. It shouldn't be necessary. I have not removed all the fairing pieces to see where all the wiring goes. I'm too lazy to do this if it's not likely to be helpful. I own a fancy circuit tester with all sorts of functions but don't really know what I'm doing. I don't know where the alarm/immobiliser joins the OE wiring.
If all else fails, read the instructions (scroll down to the fifth post)...
It seems the Meta 357T, like other alarms, does not like a weak battery. According to the Operating Instructions,
*If the battery voltage is low, the bike enters sleep mode.
*If the system is not armed, disarmed, or triggered for 10 days, the alarm enters sleep mode.
All alarm features are disabled except the immobiliser.
The current draw is now zero reducing battery consumption.
Okay, the alarm/immobiliser, is almost certainly in sleep mode (I'm hoping it doesn't have a dead mode). So, consult the instructions
Exiting sleep mode
*To exit sleep mode turn the ignition on
*Disarm using remote
er, well, I've turned the key, and squeezed the remote, but no cheerful "blip!".
In case it was a problem with the remote, I've also tried using my spare back-up remote, which had a new battery about a year ago. Still nothing. But then the LED has never been non-flashing before, so I am confident this is not a problem with the remote. I'm just trying to rule out as much as I can.
*If the alarm entered sleep mode from a fully armed state, it gives a 5 second pre-alarm signal to allow disarming before sounding.
Not relevant, the alarm was never in fully armed state, it was in immobiliser mode only. No beep/signal heard. No flashing LED either by the way.
*If after the 5 second period, the system is not disarmed with the remote, the siren will sound.
Again, not relevant.
That seems to be it for the "exiting from sleep" section. The text follows on with "Disarming with secure PIN number" but it starts its instructions with...Turn the ignition on (the LED will be on). Except of course, as mentioned above, the LED is not on. Which means the subsequent instructions, all to do with squeezing the remote after counting a certain number of flashes is irrelevant - because there are no flashes to count.
Any thoughts bossbob, RobC (357T owners the pair of 'em), anyone, please?
PS I did not get the job I went for yesterday (got there in Sue's Panda!) but I have an interview with the same co for a better job on Tuesday. I can't keep borrowing Sue's car. Help!