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    Product Review: Chain Cleaning

    I know we all have our own rituals and voodoo magic when it comes to chain cleaning, but I thought I would do a little purchasing today to try something different from my usual routine.

    I came up with 2 new items, and one tried-and-true, while at work and decided to use my employee purchasing powah:



    The brush is the Grunge Brush. Here's a site with decent info on it:
    http://www.finishlineusa.com/products/grunge-brush.htm

    Cyclegear does carry it, but I didn't want to sound like a sales whore. The one I purchased didn't come with the bottle of cleaner or whatever though. The large bottle is a can of Motorex 611 Chain Cleaning Detergent and the smaller bottle is Maxima Chain Wax.

    The brush and the detergent are a true time saver. Normally I use WD-40, a stiff scrub brush, and a shit-load of rags. WD always worked decent, and I usually didn't have to chain wax afterwards, but it was always messy. It would run and when it did, I usually didn't bother cleaning it up which makes a bigger mess later. And with this new method, I could go a little longer between chain cleanings since the wax is bit more water and fling resistant than WD40.

    But this Motrax combined with the Brush was sooooooooo much nicer. The 611 is the only thing I could find readily available that was a cleaner as well as being X-Ring and O-Ring safe. It goes on easy and smells DAMN GOOD, but I'm pretty sure it's not good for you.

    What I did was spray on the 611 and let it sit for a minute or 3, then use the brush in 2 different places so I can get all sides of the chain. With the bike on the rear stand, I spun the chain through the brush a couple times then used a rag to clean it off. Then sprayed it one more time with the 611, let it sit for about 5 minutes, then wiped it down with another rag. That's it! About 8 minutes for the cleaning including some Skoal! Considering I haven't examined my front sprocket area in about 8000 miles, the chain really cleaned up nice. Maybe I'll check it tomorrow.

    Then just follow the destructions on the Maxima can which is ride for 5-10 minutes to heat the chain, get the bike up on a rear stand, spin the chain and spray on a thin layer, and then wait 20 minutes to let the wax set.

    Just as important as saving time (I mean I'm sooooooo busy right? ) was the lack of mess. I use purple nitrile rubber gloves because, well, my hands are too pretty to get dirty... and I probably didn't even need them.

    The 3-Piece kit will run you under $30. I have a feeling the 611 will last for quite a long time and they also make a bigger can of the Chain Wax if needed.

    Just thought I'd share!
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    I use the same brush which kicks (__!__) and chain lube. I had some citrus smelling cleaner that you wash off w/ water I liked using but haven't seen it in the shops anymore (probably the same as those citrus degreasers you find in the house hold cleaning supply aisle) is that stuff you picked up similar to that or is it more of a solvent type cleaner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aprilia_RSV_Dan
    I use the same brush which kicks (__!__) and chain lube. I had some citrus smelling cleaner that you wash off w/ water I liked using but haven't seen it in the shops anymore (probably the same as those citrus degreasers you find in the house hold cleaning supply aisle) is that stuff you picked up similar to that or is it more of a solvent type cleaner?
    Well it's tough to explain... According to the details on the can it seems to be in between. It's a mild degreaser but it doesn't require rinsing with water. Just wipe down and do the damage with your lubrication.
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    Chain wax blows monkey balls.. attracts all kinds of shit and flings like no tomorrow..

    The bel-ray super clean lube has worked 5x better for me.. but I do need one of those brushes!
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    i'm a 611 cleaner junkie....i haven't found anything that works as nice as it to remove chain lube, road grime, or things of the like. i just wish it wasnt' so expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo
    Chain wax blows monkey balls.. attracts all kinds of shit and flings like no tomorrow..

    The bel-ray super clean lube has worked 5x better for me.. but I do need one of those brushes!
    Ya know I have had no problems with the Maxima Chain wax. Never flung anywhere, that I noticed anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Khan
    Ya know I have had no problems with the Maxima Chain wax. Never flung anywhere, that I noticed anyway.
    Same here. I have always wondered people were talking about when they said chain wax collects dirt and flings off. However this brand is the only one I've ever used and my chain and surrounding areas seem to look cleaner the most of the other bikes I've looked at. I thought maybe that the cleaner I used that could be washed away and not leave any solvents behind may have helped w/ the fling off thing but still wondered about the collecting dirt thing.

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    Just a note that this stuff works about as good as Kerosene (which was my favorite before). But it just much easier and cleaner to work with IMO.

    And it also gives me good reason to get away from using WD-40 as my cleaner AND lubricant... Because I'm lazy.
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    that exact setup (except with a bigger can of wax ) is what myself and my dad both use. had zero issues with either product and the brush makes good work of cleaning. don't have to use like 10 shop rags instead haha.
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    I wonder if the variable results when using wax is because it's not used in the most ideal way.

    I've seen people at track days put chain oil or wax on their chain before or between sessions!! So it's going fling big time!

    At home I sometimes clean the chain, then go for a ride - but I prefer to to go for a ride first and then clean the chain as it seems more logical - and then wax the chain per the instructions and put the bike away. The earliest I would ride the bike after waxing would usually be the following day. The wax has had more than enough time to set. If people just treat chain wax like shampoo (wash 'n go) then I would expect it to fling. Equally, the chain shouldn't be smothered in the stuff or fling will result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esta56
    I wonder if the variable results when using wax is because it's not used in the most ideal way.

    I've seen people at track days put chain oil or wax on their chain before or between sessions!! So it's going fling big time!

    At home I sometimes clean the chain, then go for a ride - but I prefer to to go for a ride first and then clean the chain as it seems more logical - and then wax the chain per the instructions and put the bike away. The earliest I would ride the bike after waxing would usually be the following day. The wax has had more than enough time to set. If people just treat chain wax like shampoo (wash 'n go) then I would expect it to fling. Equally, the chain shouldn't be smothered in the stuff or fling will result.
    I've seen the exact same thing! But never gave it a second thought.

    The only reason I do it slight different is because I want the chain to stay hot when I put the wax on... Or at least Warm if nothing else. Just a personal ritual to keep the parafin from hardening just those extra few seconds before getting everywhere in the chain. Then give it extra time to sit. If you were to touch my chain now, you'd swear if you had a wick coming out of it, you could use it for a candle.
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    Anyone ever tried the Aprilia chain-lube (or any of their five bottled products)? I'd imagine it to be sh#t but it'd be quite cool to have.

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    Just bought a scotoiler for my cbr 600f as its used all year round it`s fantastic none of the messing around listed above and the best running chain i have ever had. On the others that just see dry weather they get lubed with a cloth and some light oil like gear oil or scot oil.
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    Nice write up. Added to my Christmas wish list.....

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    Sal Khan....WD40 is NOT a lubricant...
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