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ed apriliaforum com
12-23-2002, 07:22 PM
Somebody had a video camera at the shop today.......the little mic on it doesnt do it justice, but still pretty cool to see. I was doing a step test on a 2000 RSVR with a RSC slip-on on it.
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12-23-2002, 08:09 PM
What gear do you do the pull(or run) in?
12-23-2002, 08:11 PM
ed apriliaforum com
12-23-2002, 08:14 PM
6th gear.......steady-state step tests
12-23-2002, 08:54 PM
Hi ed, I also just did a dyno run on my Mille and she is putting out 111 hp and 68 ft/lbs. She has only been derestricted and has an Arrows chip with an Evoluzione air filter. I just got in the Akrapovic SBK system so when I get home this week I will install and make another run. I cant wait to see what kind of gains I get.
12-23-2002, 09:13 PM
Interestingly enough.... I keep hearing of all these hp dyno figures in the 110~115hp range and 65~69ft/lbs and I'm wondering what's wrong with your bikes!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">
With 10k miles on her, my dyno read 117hp and 70ft/lbs at 2600 altitude! I have a Arrow slip on.... and .... that's it! My poor buddy has installed a power commander, Sp velocity stacks and shotguns, Evo airbox kit, and still every time we ever switch bikes we would both think my stocker was faster.:lol:
I keep telling him to dyno it, but he still hasn't.
I guess some bikes are tighter than others from the factory. I wonder how much the different dynos have an effect on the final calculations.
12-23-2002, 09:48 PM
Mine has dynoed as high as 118.1 and 70.3ftlbs and as low as 96 and 62ftlbs and quite a few inbetween. Now that I've got the Stage 1 kit.....don't know yet. Side by side is the only true way to compare.
00 Aprilia Mille "R"
12-23-2002, 10:03 PM
Wow duckllr, What year and spec (USA / European) is your priller? My buddy with an RSVR is only putting out 118 with a power commander, Evo airbox and shotguns. Guess mine was built after lunch ( a little too much wine):lol:
12-24-2002, 06:14 AM
I would tend to think the relative differences are in the Dyno Readings, not the bikes. I would more likely believe a FactoryPro Dyno as being "True".
micah apriliaforum com
12-24-2002, 09:40 AM
Our Factory Pro Dyno reads about 15-16% below the average Dynojet number. Dynojet numbers make people feel good, I even felt good when I saw 121.4 bhp on my Mille. My FP dyno says 106 on my bike. Dynojet numbers vary from 1-5% per run, our numbers are completely consistent, like a .2 bhp deviation between any two runs on a 100 bhp plus bike. That is why we bought the FP dyno, when tuning you really need to see a .5 bhp change or when we are working on the scooters and 50cc bikes a .1 bhp increase or decrease is huge. If you want to get FP numbers from Dynojet numbers just divide the Dynojet number by 1.15. To get a Dynojet number from a FP number multiply by 1.15. Whether either number is "true" horsepower is totally irrevelant to me, when you get any bike dialed in it will be faster than it started...this just allows us to quantify that number. <strong>Dynojet numbers are the industry standard, no doubt. Dynojet dynos are readily available and much better marketed than the FP dynos...not to mention about $10,000 less.</strong> Magazines buy them and so do a lot of tuners. I worked with them for years, they are way better than having no research tool in the shop. When it came time to spend our money however, Ed and I wanted to get the best tool on the market. (I do consider the Superflow to be an equal). If you want to read all about the "true" horsepower argument, go to the Factory Pro site, there is a wealth of information there....just try not to get lost.
12-24-2002, 11:41 AM
It's cool that you get a more precise measurement tool in the FP dyno, but it's too bad that they had to calibrate their numbers such that it is so easy to assume a FP dyno'd bike makes crappy horsepower. So what if they think they are using the correct measuring units. It doesn't matter if they are right if the generally accepted standard is different. To me as an observer it appears as another engineer's "not invented here" syndrome. There is a generally accepted standard out there for horsepower used by autos and bikes, and it seems DJ publishes numbers closer to that standard than FP. Following a standard helps everyone out.
12-26-2002, 03:16 AM
Could someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but do Europe and the USA not use different stds, one uses SAE and one uses DIN, I can't remember who uses what but there is a difference in the figures. I had my PC111 setup on a Superflow dyno and got 118hp and 76lb, but I still have that 5k dip, anyone got any suggestions how to get rid of it ????
Bill in OKC
12-26-2002, 09:52 AM
Help! I've been hypnotized by your avatar! Must... turn... eyes... away...
12-26-2002, 10:07 AM
Bill, I know, all the peeping, without the misdemeanor charges...:lol:
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