Problems

[wormus]

Anybody had any problems with their bike? I've got a couple of issues with mine - it's really hard to start from cold and the back brake is crap.

It's been a sod to start since I bought it and I was hoping the remap would sort it but it hasn't. Probably a faulty lambda sensor as it's like the choke doesn't work.

I'll call my dealer to get them to look at it but I was wondering if anyone else has experienced these problems?

[WarBaby]

Sorry to hear that. My rear brake works fine. For starting, I just turn the key on, hit the starter button, and don't touch the throttle. It fires instantly.

[T06]

:plus: :plus: :plus: :burnout: :) :bump:

[Maxacceleration]

Mine starts fine & the rear brake works fine too. But my dealer doesn't have the software installed yet to even work on my bike! :confused:
So hopefully at 600mi they'll have it up & running as my idle is low & I would like to have the map update installed.
Good luck. :)

[Jiggla]

Anybody had any problems with their bike? I've got a couple of issues with mine - it's really hard to start from cold and the back brake is crap.

It's been a sod to start since I bought it and I was hoping the remap would sort it but it hasn't. Probably a faulty lambda sensor as it's like the choke doesn't work.

I'll call my dealer to get them to look at it but I was wondering if anyone else has experienced these problems?

Do you have open pipes? If you have had it remapped did they balance the TBs? The rear brake will be shit until Aprilia smartens up & relocates the Master cylinder away from the motor. I used PP tuning Rearsets & they work great.

- Pete

[TUONOAPE]

back brake went limp after couple thou k's - it really pisses me off. Starting can be hassel if you touch the throttle. For some reason if you do, it will often fire up then run crap, stall and do the same thing over and over again until you can get enough revs to get it going on the road. Then it's fine.

[repoe3]

starting these bikes are no different than many large discplacement twins. you need to use the fast idle lever, turn key to ON, let system do its things, then hit the starter....vrooom, the engine will roar to life. adjust fast idle to NO LESS than 2500RPM. let is sit there till COLD stops flashing (assuming the new display does anything like the old display)...it should read about 95-100 degrees F. you could ride off like that, but you need to leave the fast idle on until temps hit 170-ish F. as for the rear brake...well...ducati's have had iffy rear brakes for a while too. the reason many people dont complain about it, is a result of limited rear brake use or the amount of braking, while limited, is fine for some...i.e. me.

also, something to consider in regards to the charging system...moto's dont have large alternators. so if you run around doing small rides, don't be surprised if your bike is not fully juiced. it generally speaking, takes 45 min+ rides to give back what you are using to start, etc., into the charging system. and as a result of some of the wiring on the bikes, getting that juice ot the battery is often hindered (i.e. higher resistance). that doesnt mean there is nothing wrong with the bike, but it has its idiosyncrises.

repoe3

[T06]

What you write above is total bolox.You don't own an 06,you own the earlier model. They are very different in many ways.Try living with one for a while & then let the constructives forward.;)

[repoe3]

What you write above is total bolox.You don't own an 06,you own the earlier model. They are very different in many ways.Try living with one for a while & then let the constructives forward.;)

yeah, so different...sure. my ducati 916 acted this way...in 1998!!! my bmw R1100S (all three of them) acted this way...i.e. you need fast idle to start, particularly when cold.

but you are right, they new one is so different, just the bitching and complaining remains the same from MY to MY :bump:

only thing i might be missing is whether the new bikes have a fast idle or is it ECU controlled. either way, the cold natured aspect of these engines remain.

repoe3

[Befbever]

It is ECU controlled via the stepper motor, repoe.

One should NEVER touch the throttle on a fuel injected bike when starting... the ECU will give you the right mixture after a few cycles to measure conditions etc...

[repoe3]

It is ECU controlled via the stepper motor, repoe.

One should NEVER touch the throttle on a fuel injected bike when starting... the ECU will give you the right mixture after a few cycles to measure conditions etc...


who said anything about throttle :P whats the fast idle for? i guess 75k miles on cold natured twins with similar start up characteristics was for naught. oh well. guess my only recommendation is to buy a honda :burnout:

edit: maybe you should buy an older one...kidding, of course. though i thought there was a fast idle on the 04 Mille as there was a thread about it. cornfused for sure...oh well.

repoe3

[chrisscaines]

my new '06 does not start first time, 100% of the time. Especially after sitting for three to five days in the garage. I think Map2 will cure some of my fueling gripes under 4500 rpm as read elsewhere on the forum, in additon to the coldstart issues. My Brutale started before you even pushed the button it was that good. I am not a technician, so what do I know...

[amauri]

Repoe3, there is no fast idle lever on the 06/07 Tuono, just like the 04-07 RSVR.

Like most new computer controlled bikes, you must wait a few seconds after first turning on the key to allow the ECU initialize with all the sensors before pushing the start button.

Try that before looking into starting problrems.

[repoe3]

best we all get bump starters like the motoGP folks use...that would solve the problems no?

repoe3

[X-CBR MAN]

Do a search in the 04-06 Mille Section, there is where all your problems are addressed.

[Befbever]

best we all get bump starters like the motoGP folks use...that would solve the problems no?


It's just that they're a pain to haul around in your tank bag.
:)

[T06]

yeah, so different...sure. my ducati 916 acted this way...in 1998!!! my bmw R1100S (all three of them) acted this way...i.e. you need fast idle to start, particularly when cold.

but you are right, they new one is so different, just the bitching and complaining remains the same from MY to MY :bump:

only thing i might be missing is whether the new bikes have a fast idle or is it ECU controlled. either way, the cold natured aspect of these engines remain.

repoe3
:tired: :tired: :tired:

[repoe3]

:tired: :tired: :tired:

jeez your life must suck...can't even laugh...find humor in it, brother. sheesh. :burnout: you dont even have to laught with me..you can laugh AT me :p

repoe3

[splatty]

My brand spanker (250 miles on the clock) starts first time every time !?

Weather has been awful here so it has sat in the garage for five days, started her up last night. Fired up sweet as a nut. :cheers:

[repoe3]

My brand spanker (250 miles on the clock) starts first time every time !?

Weather has been awful here so it has sat in the garage for five days, started her up last night. Fired up sweet as a nut. :cheers:

see those bump startes really do work :bump:

repoe3

[repoe3]

Hope you come good soon!Signed, the Aprilia Forum.
P.S.Find humour in what? Don't piss in our forum dickhead.Take your handbag & put them with the rest.We don't want or expect agnominexsts.Grow up.

man, you will have to define that one for me, thanks. all grow'd up, thanks. bit touchy in the morning, i see. well, rest easy. i didnt realize you owned the forum. i didnt have to pay money for MY forum...whts it take to get a vested interest in YOUR forum? oh, wait, cost of admission is ownership of your bike. well, guess you had better tell that to several otehr people...like clarkie, bef, etc. etc...people try to help, people make mistakes (like me missing the ECU controlled stepper motor). so be it. not sure where the name calling erupted other than the above post...so i guess that means me are close friends now. :bump:

so, to you sir...piss off and have a merry phucking day...perhaps you could try the bump starter to get a grip :kidding: as you obvioulsy have a grip on something...hopefully not sharp and pointy...or of a large caliber. does your parole officer know about that? :cheers:

repoe3

[wormus]

back brake went limp after couple thou k's - it really pisses me off. Starting can be hassel if you touch the throttle. For some reason if you do, it will often fire up then run crap, stall and do the same thing over and over again until you can get enough revs to get it going on the road. Then it's fine.

This is what mine does, if I don't touch the throttle it will start and idle fine. However, if I put it into gear, pull away, and then let the revs drop (like you would when pulling off your drive onto the road) it seems to flood and won't start again without nearly flattening the battery. Soon as it clears itself or becomes warm it runs fine. I've had loads of fuel injeced bikes but none of them have been this tempremental.

BTW, what's a 'fast idle', is that the same as a 'choke' ? Sounds like something my grandad would remember, next you'll tell me to 'retard the ignition' before doning my cloth cap and goggles :happy:

[T06]

The new Tuonos don't have a fast idle lever or switch, it's controlled by the ecu.

[repoe3]

This is what mine does, if I don't touch the throttle it will start and idle fine. However, if I put it into gear, pull away, and then let the revs drop (like you would when pulling off your drive onto the road) it seems to flood and won't start again without nearly flattening the battery. Soon as it clears itself or becomes warm it runs fine. I've had loads of fuel injeced bikes but none of them have been this tempremental.

BTW, what's a 'fast idle', is that the same as a 'choke' ? Sounds like something my grandad would remember, next you'll tell me to 'retard the ignition' before doning my cloth cap and goggles :happy:

fast idle is just like it sounds...an unless you only started riding bikes within the past couple years and then only a select few (I4's or newe ducs)...more than likely you had one. is it a cable operated lever that pulls the TB's open just a bit to give it a bit of throttle. not a choke which adds more fuel to the mix to heat a bike up. so no, they are not the same thing what so ever.

the new 'prillers are not bleeding edge tech. on two wheels. not sure where the issues here are, other than personalities. seems aside from my mistake on one point, this bike is like so many others in certain regards. you chaps should spend some time in the other sections, there are plenty of good folks you could warm up to or pee on their leg or do what pleases whatever leather clad animal fetish you might have :cheers:

man this type of friction usually only happens in the winter...not during riding season :bump:

[XtremeBiker]

back brake went limp after couple thou k's - it really pisses me off. Starting can be hassel if you touch the throttle. For some reason if you do, it will often fire up then run crap, stall and do the same thing over and over again until you can get enough revs to get it going on the road. Then it's fine.Same experience here.

[TUONOAPE]

I've only had the starting prob on cold mornings. Best way to beat it is to start it up - no throttle, and don't touch it unitl the temp shows on the panel. If it does stall, do as Amari said, and turn it off then back on and wait for the diagnostics to reset everything. I've found if I get too excited (like everyone else has taken off and I'm still sitting at the back of the pub) if I don't wait for the thing to go through it's routine then it will not play the game at all. Hope this helps.

[Maxacceleration]

My first mini-problem is leaking coolant.Those non adjustable clamps(?) clamping the top right hose on that coolant tube on the right leaks.
So far I just twist it a bit to stop the dribbling. It drips down onto & past the chin fairing to the ground.
Could make for some slippery riding.
My first thought is to replace the factory clamps with proper(ugly) hose clamps.
But I'll let my dealer have at it on my Tues. break-in service.
You might want to keep an eye out...

Other than that my Tuono rocks.