Standard Tuono tires...

[Pimmie]

What are the standard tires Tuono's get delivered with?

I was expecting Metzelers when I picked up my Tuono today but I got Pirelli Diablo's...
I haven't ridden with either brand since I'm a Bridgestone kinda guy but these Pirelli's feel good!:D

[scottywadly]

mine was delivered w/ Dunlop d207's. don't particularly like them. will soon put on Diablo's, which I absolutely loved on my 748. may even try Diablo Corsa's, 180 in the rear 'stead of the stock 190. The Tuono Racing comes with Pirelli Supercorsa's, 180 rear. They are phenomenal tires, but don't last and make me very nervous in the rain. :eek:

[Manu]

I got mine delivered with standard Diablo's too.
I was relieved not to get the Sportec :)

So far quite happy with the Diablo's

[DeTuono]

I think I'm quite a fast road-rider, middling track day guy. If you ride quite hard like me, you will benefit from going from the standard fit 190 section rear, to a slightly narrower and more rounded 180 section. As with the Ducati 996 I had before, the larger tyre is more for looks than handling.

On the 180, the bike turns with less effort, and feels more consistent at the rear.

The 180 is a recognised fitment. Aprilia fits it to the Tuono R.

Try it, you'll like it! ;)

Nick

[Jony2Stones]

My tuono came with the 207rr's.....Not sure how I feel about them.

I've not had great experiences in the past with dunlops, but these feel way better then the other sets I've had.

I would agree with the comments on the diablos.
I have a set on my daytona, and so far they are my favorite tire.

I use pretty much every tire change as a opportunity to try out different rubber, however the daytona responed soo well to those diablos that I may just stay with those....

What's up next for the tuono.....I'm thinking AVON's extreme rain-race tire. Should only give me about 1500-2000 miles, but they're cheap ....

[Pimmie]

Originally posted by DeTuono
I think I'm quite a fast road-rider, middling track day guy. If you ride quite hard like me, you will benefit from going from the standard fit 190 section rear, to a slightly narrower and more rounded 180 section. As with the Ducati 996 I had before, the larger tyre is more for looks than handling.

On the 180, the bike turns with less effort, and feels more consistent at the rear.

The 180 is a recognised fitment. Aprilia fits it to the Tuono R.

Try it, you'll like it! ;)

Nick

I always went with 180 section tires because of the same reasons you mentioned, but I heard the 6.00 rim won't take a 180? It tends to 'flatten' it? Or is there a 180/55 or 180/60?

[Manu]

The 180 size recommended for the RSV is 180/55. Still 180/55 are usually fitted to a 5.5" rims. So there is a good chance that the 180 profile will be slightly modified when fitted to a 6" rim. This is one of the reason why I wouldn't automatically consider the 180/55 conversion on a 6" rim as 100% benefical swap...:rolleyes:

I wonder how much of the 180 swap improvement actually comes from the rear height increase (+4 mm in theory) rather than the narrower profile.... :confused:

IMO Tuono comes from factory with too much front end height ( too much fork spring preload in stock setting). Lowering the front by 4mm (+/- 2 more lines showing on the preload) makes the steering quicker and better balanced while keeping the larger/safer contact patch and better planted feel when leaned of the 190/50.

[BBQ Chef]

Mine came with the Metzeler M1 Sportecs and I am incredibly pleased wit them so far, but I only have 300 miles on the bike so that could all change.

[DeTuono]

Manu, I thought the rear rim *was* 5.5". I'm at work now, so can't check it. In my experience it was the 190 that was not suited to the rim. Mine "folded" when cornering, shown by a tiny (2mm) line around the edge of the tyre that never touched the road. (same on 996) I read about this somewhere on the 'net. One of the Ducati tuning sites I think.

I agree the Tuono seems a bit nose up/bum down. One test I read (Cycle World?) said this might be because Aprilia didn't change the spring rates from the RSV, which has more of the rider's weight forward. However, I would prefer to raise the rear than drop the front, particularly as the rear shock comes with a ride height adjuster. I am having my bike set up for me at present. When it's complete I'll report here.

Nick

[Pimmie]

Originally posted by Manu
The 180 size recommended for the RSV is 180/55. Still 180/55 are usually fitted to a 5.5" rims. So there is a good chance that the 180 profile will be slightly modified when fitted to a 6" rim. This is one of the reason why I wouldn't automatically consider the 180/55 conversion on a 6" rim as 100% benefical swap...:rolleyes:

I wonder how much of the 180 swap improvement actually comes from the rear height increase (+4 mm in theory) rather than the narrower profile.... :confused:

IMO Tuono comes from factory with too much front end height ( too much fork spring preload in stock setting). Lowering the front by 4mm (+/- 2 more lines showing on the preload) makes the steering quicker and better balanced while keeping the larger/safer contact patch and better planted feel when leaned of the 190/50.

And this is two lines on top of the 2 lines already showing?

[Manu]

Originally posted by Pimmie
And this is two lines on top of the 2 lines already showing?

Pimmie. IIRC the stock front preload is set to 4th lines out (3 lines showing). I 'm speaking front preload here not fork tube protusion in the triple clamps. Try one more line showing at a time and see how it feels. Mine is set close the 6th line out (5th+3/4 line i.e. 1+3/4 more from stock IIRC) at the moment.

Nick. Since I didn't had enough front sag, I prefered lowering the front with less preload rather than lifting the rear. I haven't experienced the problem you described with my 190 Diablo and it's worn till the very end of the edge. Despite the 6" rim, I'm not saying the 180 conversion is necessary bad (haven't tried it yet) but that you can also make a "190 fitted Tuono" faster steering by adjusting ride height. ;)

[DeTuono]

Manu,

You sound like you may know what you are talking about. Which means you are disqualified from posting. Sorry. :p How do you know this stuff?

Thanks for your advice. I'm still confused how reducing pre-load can help ride height AND sag. :confused: Help!

It was the original 207RRs that had the line. I had the same symptom on my old 996 with Michelin Pilots. It was the Ducati dealer who told me about the "folding". Might be bullsh!t, but the line was there. Wish I took a digipic now. :(

Cheers, Nick

[eyetie]

I have a set of Pirelli Supercorsa's that I took off Tuono Racing before it left the dealership. 120 & 180; less than 3 mi. $250+
shipping buys them

[kirkmoon]

The standard Tuono has 6" rear rims and 190 a tire. I think this is standard for the US. I believe that the Tuono R came with 5.5" rear rims and thus 180 rear tires. The major manufacturers seem to recommend the 190 for the 6" rim.

[Manu]

Originally posted by DeTuono
Manu,
Thanks for your advice. I'm still confused how reducing pre-load can help ride height AND sag. :confused: Help!

Nick, nothing very complicated here ;)

When you say you got for example 30mm front sag, this means that with you sitting on the bike, the front suspension compresses to the point that it uses 30mm out of the entire available suspension travel. Now if you increase sag from 30 to 40 mm (using preload adjusters), that means the suspension will use 10 more mm travel and sit 10 mm lower, reducing the front height with the same 10 mm.

The whole point with sag is to prevent suspension from topping up (not enough sag) or bottoming out (too much sag). In other words: To prevent suspension from running out of travel in both direction up and down.

Checking is not difficult , but usually requires the assistance of a buddy to make the measurement while you sit on the bike....

A friend of mine GeoR who use to post on this forum has a very simple method using an old credit card to check sag. Knowing him he 'll be very happy to explain it in person... ;)

Geo now it's your turn....

[scottywadly]

all three Tuonos in my shop (grey (mine), red (floor), and Racing (Boss')) have 6" rear wheels. Now I'm not so sure about going to a 180, and boss won't let me ride the Racing to compare. Definitely don't blame him!:D