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petefix
02-02-2010, 06:20 AM
Hi all

I have the Falco geared at 15F and 43R, giving approx 140kmh @ 6000rpm.
Having fitted the Rene air box and had PC111 mapped, it feels a bit short.
Im thinking of changing to either:

1) 15F and 41R

or

2) 16F and 43R

Any thoughts or experiences? Not after outright speed (need my license!) and ride mainly in the hills...


cheers

Pete

Katch
02-02-2010, 06:24 AM
Both will work, but a 16 front will give your chain a little longer lifespan. I'm running a 16/44 now.

BTW: Both those setups are better for cuty traffic.


:cheers:
Steve

dyzio
02-02-2010, 06:38 AM
Just thinking about this myself...
How about 3) 15-42 ?

mini_me
02-02-2010, 06:41 AM
I used 16/44 on the Falco.

But if you really want to know about gearing look HERE (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2393912&postcount=22) :D

ThEGr33k
02-02-2010, 07:02 AM
http://www.gearingcommander.com/

Thats brilliant!

RossGuzzi
02-02-2010, 08:24 AM
16/43 is good !

petefix
02-02-2010, 08:40 AM
Thanks Ross...
will also be cheaper (front sproket less $$ than rear) and will affect chain length less...

Think I will go this way... 15/42 too small a difference I think...

nemmetz02
02-02-2010, 08:56 AM
16/43 is a great improvement over the stock 16/42. i worry about going to 16/44 as i feel it may reduce the all around riding capabilities. the 16/43 is very well mannered over the stock in the city and great in the twisties. the front end is definitly lighter and want to go skyward. i'm very happy with the 16/43. i am tempted to try the 16/44 but i dont think its what i'm looking for.

dyzio
02-02-2010, 09:02 AM
the stock 16/42

D'oh, I meant 15/43 then.

nemmetz02
02-02-2010, 09:07 AM
D'oh, I meant 15/43 then.

15/43 would be equivelent to 16/45

SoulDaddy
02-02-2010, 11:29 AM
I think 15/42 is magic. The gears feel perfectly spaced like you're running a close-ratio gearbox in the twisties as seems to keep the revs in the sweet spot of the engine's powerband. 1st is not at all too low, and 6th is very usable.

petefix
02-02-2010, 11:32 AM
Ok,,, a little maths gives me:

15/43 = 2.86
16/45 = 2.81
16/43 = 2.68
15/41 = 2.73
15/42 = 2.80
16/44 = 2.75

Hmmmm.... due to cost and ease, I think I will go 16/43. Very close to the gearing I was initially running, which was a bit of a pain in slow traffic, but bike running much stronger and crisper now. Wondering if fitting the Oz wheels will affect how the different gearing set-ups feel? Less gyroscopic effect?
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MauriceOz
02-02-2010, 06:19 PM
Ok,,, a little maths gives me:

15/43 = 2.86
16/45 = 2.81
16/43 = 2.68
15/41 = 2.73
15/42 = 2.80
16/44 = 2.75

Hmmmm.... due to cost and ease, I think I will go 16/43. Very close to the gearing I was initially running, which was a bit of a pain in slow traffic, but bike running much stronger and crisper now. Wondering if fitting the Oz wheels will affect how the different gearing set-ups feel? Less gyroscopic effect?
1

I was running 16/42 and never got into 6th. went to 16/43 and useable all through the rev range. My OZ wheels only made the turning in easier and also less unsprung weight which is a benefit for quick changes of direction, not sure if that effects the ease of spinning up the rear wheel.

Maurice

Exdukenut
02-02-2010, 06:22 PM
not sure if that effects the ease of spinning up the rear wheel.

Maurice

It sure will as there is less weight in the wheel.

:cool:

Exdukenut
02-02-2010, 06:24 PM
I have both 16/43 and 16/44. Both are good. Run currently 16/44 on the CF wheels. If I was touring I'd probably go for the 16/43, but it isn't that big of a difference.

:cool:

vonDutch
02-02-2010, 06:47 PM
I feel a new mod coming up...

http://thepack.org.au/workshop/images/how2adj_rr_derailleur1.jpg

Big guy who dares to shift at 220 km/h :rolleyes:

tiga
02-03-2010, 08:28 AM
16-43 works great up here in highlands was great at donington trackday last year for what thats worth.

petefix
02-04-2010, 05:19 AM
Thanks Tiga
Im thinking the highlands are similar to what I like to ride at home... and think the 16/43 is the way Im going to go.

Did a bit of hiking / walking in Scotland, but no riding. Plenty of rain up that way!

Lttlcheeze
02-04-2010, 12:25 PM
Don't remember if it has been mentioned in this thread, but I would Highly Recommend Super Sprox (http://www.supersproxusa.com/). Buy one, and you never need to buy another sprocket, Period. (Lifetime Warranty) :D

tiga
02-05-2010, 05:44 AM
pete im about 13 miles east of inverness in nairn, very lucky we have micro climate on east coast. littlecheeze had to change sprockets and two years ago so went renthal front super sprox rear rk zxvm chain and very happy

dyzio
02-05-2010, 05:46 AM
I've bought my bike in Nairn, don't suppose you know a ex-owner of an 04 Flamingo Red?

tiga
02-05-2010, 05:51 AM
no dyzio i think there is a 04 rsvr in the town and there is a falco in forres how long you had the falco mate.

dyzio
02-05-2010, 05:57 AM
Just over a year now.

petefix
02-05-2010, 06:11 AM
I had a lot of fun in Inverness -well, Scotland in general :)
Walked the 2nd half of the west highland way, caught the train to Mallig (?), then ferry to Skye. About 5 days on Skye, hiking about, then to Inverness for a day (turned into 4..), down to Edinburgh again... sailed through the canal (name of which escapes me at the moment-thru Loch Ness and Fort William) in a tall ship... spent a couple of days at Elgol (?).. bit of time off the west Coast (around Jura and etc) and two separate week long visits to Edinburgh -lots of fun on Burns night...

Great place, but as the beer ad says... "the only country to measure its rainfall in pints..."

petefix
02-05-2010, 06:46 AM
Id love to go the 'supersprox' package, but cant justify. Recently replaced chain and both sprockets, now just want to 'fine tune' the gearing. Next time it is due I will definitely consider the 'whole deal'.. depending of course on the exchange rate!

GPM
02-05-2010, 09:45 PM
I'm also going to try the 43 rear sprocket.

Where do you guys get your sprockets from here in AUS?

Thanks.

MauriceOz
02-05-2010, 11:22 PM
I'm also going to try the 43 rear sprocket.

Where do you guys get your sprockets from here in AUS?

Thanks.

Ring Forza he has a range or the mob in Queensland who make them up when you order and are good quality, ads in AMCN, I am in the USA right now or would be a bit more specific. Last rears I bought from Dave.

Maurice

petefix
02-06-2010, 02:50 AM
I bought an aluminium (gold colour) rear of Dave last year -very good service :)

FORZA
02-06-2010, 04:22 AM
I have a pretty full much full range of Afam stuff in stock now in steel or Alu. rears & 16t/15t fronts also.
Can do a limited range in 520 but not a big call for it.

Dave Ward
Moto Italia
Aprilia-Ducati-Moto Guzzi
0432 441 985

richardsperry
02-09-2010, 09:46 AM
Damn, what a bunch of panzies...

Stock was 16-41 I used 16-44, 15-41, 15-44... Of them all the 15-44 was the most fun, but the (16-44/ 15-41 almost the same ratio) is probably better all around.

richardsperry
02-09-2010, 09:48 AM
Damn, what a bunch of panzies...

Stock was 16-41 I have used 16-44, 15-41, 15-44... Of them all the 15-44 was the most fun, but the (16-44/ 15-41 almost the same ratio) is probably better all around.