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02-13-2003, 06:39 PM
My local dealer has an '01 black SL1000 for sale. He says it's got about 3500 miles on it, and that it was a "dealer demo" and has never been registered. He said he would sell it to me for $9600 otd. That's the price he quoted just off the top of his head, without any negotiation on my part. I do see it has Aprilia carbon slipons, but I don't know what other mods it may have.
The other alternative is that the dealer has 2 '02 models that he quoted at $10500 otd, again without any negotiating. These are new, with no miles.
So here are my questions-
How are these prices, and do you think I've got alot of room to negotiate?
Is the "demo" a good deal, considering it's already broken in and I wouldn't have to pay also for the initial service? The demo would come with the full factory warranty, and it's got the pipes(and maybe a chip as well?).
I'm very new to the world of Aprilia, and if there's anything obvious that I'm overlooking, please by all means enlighten me!
02-13-2003, 07:28 PM
That's an outrageous price for an essentially used '01. There are plenty of dealers going sub-$9500 on brand spanking new '02s (although, I like the 00-01 color schemes better than '02s). Being a demo, it probably was not broken in very nicely either. I'd offer them $8k and maybe another $500 with the RSCs. The only advantage to buying from them as opposed to the used market is that you would get a fresh start on a 2 year warranty that you will likely use. That's worth at least $500 right there, so maybe $9k is reasonable.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">
02-13-2003, 07:32 PM
I take back the bit about the warranty savings. With 3500 miles, it's likely to have all the common problems sorted out already, so $8500. ;)
Just take it for a test ride and be sure you don't feel any vibration while braking, no oil leaks, the clutch doesn't slip, and the kickstand light doesn't stay on.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">
02-13-2003, 08:57 PM
I'll sell you my 2002 for less than that 01 with fewer miles. :)
02-14-2003, 08:35 AM
I paid $10,200 plus Tax and Tag for my (02) demo (480 miles). Deal included delivery across the state, RSC Chip & Cans + Suomy/ Aprilia Helmet + Aprilia Leather Jacket.
I would recommend you take a hard look at Aviator's Bike..
02-14-2003, 08:51 AM
I would definitely NOT pay more than $8K OTD for an 01 demo. I've seen how demos are ridden (from 0 miles) and even without considering that, they're asking too much. I don't know Aviator, but I'd explore that type of option first. Graphics between an 01 and 02 are very different so which one you like more may influence you.
I was quoted $10K OTD (includes 6.5% sales tax) on an 02 which I believe was a very good deal. Dealer would not go lower, but admitted he was not taking a loss. I Don't want dealers selling bikes I like at a loss anyway.
02-14-2003, 10:08 AM
gi- 10k for a 02 right now is too much. I paid much less than that a year ago this march.. though it didn't include sales tax.. so you're paying about 100 bucks less than I did when the 02 was JUST out.. too much for a leftover bike, assuming you're talking about recent events.. Then again most people only have one priller dealer around, so what choice do you have. I drove 1900 miles rountrip to pick up my bike over a weekend to get that deal!
thanks parkec! :)
I don't want to sound like I'm being trying to push my bike or a sleezy salesmen, but I honestly regret buying my bike new. In particular, I wish I had bought dave333's bike that came on the market mere months after I purchased mine. I've got few mods on my bike, and they still cost me about 1000 bucks, I don't get crap for them in the resale market, not to mention the bath I'm taking on aprilia's poor resale. Dave's bike had EVERYTHING done to it, but had some miles IIRC, still I think it went for something like 7500 bucks or LESS. Wish I could have had it...
02-14-2003, 10:45 AM
I got my 2002 (it was sorta a demo, had like 120 miles on it) a few weeks ago for 10k including RSC pipes and chip. I had to pay a little more out the door but not much as it was a trade in so I saved some on taxes.
I agree the used ones are a better deal because you usually get some nice mods thrown in for pennies on the dollar. I bought mine just because it was more convenient for me to trade in the old bike to the dealer and he gave me a decent deal on it.
02-14-2003, 12:02 PM
That's too high for a '01 bike with 3500 miles -- even where I live. I'm searching too...so if you don't buy Aviator's Falco I might??
02-14-2003, 01:30 PM
That is way high for a bike that has been beaten by everyone and their brothers. I looked into an '01 demo when I got mine and they only wanted $7200 but I didn't like the history on it and that is a hell of a lot cheaper than the one they are trying to sell you.
Local dealers in NE Ohio are letting them OTD for $9600-9800. If I were you I would keep on keepin on.
02-14-2003, 01:53 PM
I purchased my bike with 1300 miles on the speedo, not a demo. The original owner had installed carbon fiber side panels and the aprilia carbon slipons with chip.
Out the door $9,000. It had been derestricted and oil line recall taken care of at its 600 mile service. It has 3500 miles on it now and it's fantastic. I did upgrade the rear shock with a fox twin clicker and air box with the evo race kit and lower velocity stacks. My oz wheels are on the way and should be on the bike next week. I'll also be doing a cool alloy/steel 42t sprocket and gold chain at the time the wheels go on. Led's in the back look very cool and the carbon dash board is candy for me to enjoy everytime I look at the speedo. I wasn't looking to upgrade so much because one can never get that money back reselling. I love this bike so much that I wouldn't want to sell it. After owning and maintaining several ducatis I can apreciate how bullet proof the rotax engine is. The falco has a perfect balance of sport, comfort, caracter, rare and balls that would make me recomend it to anybody considering one. I hope I've been of help and you love yours as much as all the other falco nuts here, good luck. :smokin:
02-14-2003, 08:08 PM
Aviator - where are you located? I'm certainly interested in your bike.
Please email me directly @ firstname.lastname@example.org and perhaps we can discuss this possibility.
02-15-2003, 10:53 AM
I'll sell you my Black 01 with
Leo Vinci high mounts
evo airbox w/filter
fairly new bt010's tires
new front braided brake lines
relocated license plate bracket
15 tooth front sprocket
5800 miles, broken in with the $600, 4000 miles service done
excellent condition email@example.com
I will help with shipping!
02-15-2003, 10:54 AM
$8,900 / obo
02-18-2003, 12:07 PM
Do you have pictures of your falco?
I've been actively looking for a used RSV or Falco.
02-18-2003, 01:39 PM
Personally, I think that both prices are to high but the new bike is a better deal. I would be careful about the deal demo model as these tend to be beat on from day one. The mods may be nice, but not if the bike was abused. Overall, I think $8500 is the most I would pay for a demo bike. If you're willing to look at the demo bike, you should also take a look at the used market. There have been some very good single owner, unabused, Falcos that have sold for about the same price. If you're willing to spend a little more you might be able to get one with some really good mods as well.
For the new bike, $10,500 is okay but probably not a great deal. I paid somewhat less than this -- closer to $10k OTD -- including a free first service in August '01. If I were going to buy a new Falco now, I would shoot for $10k OTD including a free first service. (Free first service can be a good negotiating point since dealers charge something like $300.) You also have the luxury of being able to shop around since Falcos don't exactly fly off the showroom floor.
The other (silly?) point to think about is which color do you prefer? Do you like black, or do you prefer the silver/black, or do you want to shop around for one of the other colors?
Either way, the Falco is a great bike.
02-19-2003, 09:35 AM
Sammy, go to the search section on the first forum page. Type in "raised bar ends" and then click on the bottom one that's under "jonsride". That is my falco!!
02-19-2003, 09:37 AM
Have a look at www.cycletrader.com. I have gone there in the past to look at what various bikes are selling for around the country, and it works well. I just searched for 2000-2003 Aprilia Falcos Nationwide, and came up with 15 to choose from. Prices range from $6900 on up. The $6900 bike even has those ultra-rare "Da Vinci" pipes! I knew Leonardo was innovative, but that's amazing...lol.
02-19-2003, 07:13 PM
Hey all -
Thanks so much for your input! I'm going to wait at least until the beginning of March to buy a bike. I work at WorldCom and want to make sure I still have a job! We're supposed to lay off 5000 people by the end of February.
I did a search on cycletrader.com. There is a dealer in VA that has an advertised price of $9400 for a new '02 model. I'll probably give them a call. I'll probably also print out the ad and bring it to my local dealer. I'd rather drive 15 mins up the road than 4 hours! We'll see what happens.
As far as the demo goes - I didn't ask who was riding the bike. I do know that this particular dealer doesn't do "test rides," but the bike's got 3500 miles, so someone was riding it! Of course the dealer isn't going to tell me if it's been beat. Everything I've read about the Falco from this board, the RiderSite forum, and thefalcos email list indicates that this is a pretty solid machine with very few reliability issues. Based on this, and given the fact that the bike would still come with the factory warranty(for 2 years maybe?) leads me to think that this might be the way to go. Color doesn't really matter to me. It will probably depend mosly on what kind of deals the dealer is willing to make. I'm sure I'm going to be happy with whatever Falco I end up with!
Once again - Thank You. I look forward to a great relationship with the Falco and with you all on this board.
02-19-2003, 09:08 PM
There's a Silver/Blk '02 on eBay. Aviator, is that yours? :eek:
02-19-2003, 10:27 PM
02-20-2003, 07:30 AM
thought I'd mention that Castle Powersports in Nashville,TN has a black Falco (demo) 2500 miles bone stock I was offered for 8k + tax Talk to Jeff, one of the owners. They are great people, good to work with !!! Telephone (615) 851-4400
02-20-2003, 04:13 PM
black? so it's a 2k1.
you can have a 2k2 that hasn't been beat on by complete strangers for just a few dollars more, and already has like 800 bucks in aftermarket stuff.
02-20-2003, 04:26 PM
Aviator, why are you selling yours?
Anyway, I drove 7 hours one way to get my Falco. I found 2 TLs in my area and a SuperHawk but I found it on Cycle Trader and I made the deal over the phone and faxed a copy of the bank check to him so he would hold it and make the deal. I got an immaculate '01 with the exhaust, chip, a set of new unmounted D207s and sprocket already done as well and it had service records including valve adjustments. I paid WELL under $8K for it and I am loving every minute of it. Hell, even with the record snowfall this year I am even enjoying just looking at that sexy little devil!:evil:
Good luck and I hope you get everything you are looking for like I did. I have never once regretted my decision.
02-20-2003, 06:22 PM
getting out of debt/buying a subaru WRX :)
02-21-2003, 10:36 PM
Hate to see a fellow Falco rider hang it up. Hope you get what your asking for on your bike, I think it's a great deal. I also have the Silver/Blk '02 and bought it because the blacked out frame looks great!:D
Good luck and maybe you'll join the Falco family again someday.;)
02-22-2003, 01:08 AM
pisses me off, there's a dealer listing a 2002 with a pic of a silver 2001 on ebay.
03-04-2003, 11:22 AM
Todd, I assume that by saying you work at Worldcom and are looking at a VA dealer, that you are in the NOVA area? I live in Clifton, and have a 2001 Falco. Keep in touch, no matter what you end up buying,as it's always good to find new riding partners. If you're talking about Coleman's for teh Falco, I'd suggest the one in Falls Church. I have had better luck with dealing with them than the guys in Woodbridge. Good luck!
03-04-2003, 08:55 PM
falcoscott - WorldCom's a pretty big company, with sites all over the US - and the world for that matter. I actually work in Cary, North Carolina.
I'm actually not going to buy either bike from my local dealer. I've got a deal going with a dealer in Charlotte, NC, for a new 2001 Falco for $8K otd. I think I'm doing pretty well at that price and am happy.
I'm sure I'll be posting my experiences here for all to see!
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