Falling Apart!!

[perfect]

Well I'm not having a good day at all!!

Whilst giving my bike a thorough check over I noticed two of the circlips are missing for the front brake lever and the clutch lever pins!!
The one for the clutch lever position adjuster and more importantly the one for the complete front brake lever!! :WTF:

Where have they gone, and before you ask I haven't been playing around with them! I also know for a fact they were
there not long ago as I took some pictures to send to Pazzo.

The only thing I have done is adjust the position of the levers so I can reach them better, surely this would not damage the circlips??

Hmmm not happy!:pissed: I dread to think what would have happened if the main pin on the front brake lever had popped out whilst riding??

Is this a common problem with Aprilia's?? I'm guessing not as the levers and reservoirs are clearly a new design on the Shiver,
nobody makes after market levers for it and it is the only Aprilia I have seen with this design.

I think Aprilia need a CLIP round the ear!!

I would also recommend you check your bikes guys, I have only done 700
miles, surely this shouldn't happen? I can see a future recall pending for the circlips.

I've just emailed my dealer the images, hopefully get it sorted soon, No way I'm ridding it without the clips fitted.

I'm sorry this is a bit of a boring negative one but I thought you should know that's all

Dan

[makrand]

Just checked mine.

It's the same except mine is also missing the other one on the brake lever.

I'm off up to the dealer today so will get some more put on and ask about it.

[MediaTrash]

Just checked - mine are all there.

Only 600 miles in, but also maybe worth noting mine was only sent from the factory in Italy a month ago (?)

[makrand]

The mechanic knicked the levers off their demo bike which has hardly been used.
So now I have all the circlips and new levers too. :)

The bike is running as good as it ever has again.
Apparently I was neglecting my chain which was causing a lot of the low speed problems.

He changed the oil and plugs too and it seems more powerful.

Got absolutely drenched on the way home but the bike didn't miss a beat which is reassuring.

[RSV450]

Spiral retaining rings won't come off.

http://www.arconring.com/pdfs/spiralrings.pdf

Luther

[perfect]

Spiral retaining rings won't come off.

http://www.arconring.com/pdfs/spiralrings.pdf

Luther

Thanks for the info

Perfect:burnout:

[burty]

Thanks for the heads up. I shall check mine.

[samo]

just checked mine and my mates bikes
mates are all broken in half(see pic)!!! his bike is an orange model and was in the uk before my later blue one,
mine are all intact both done about a thousand miles,
maybe a duff batch (clips or levers?)
btw. both our bikes are suffering with the dash misting up!!!
at the dealers this weekend to get it sorted:bond:
apart from that the bikes are awesome:burnout:
cheers steve..

[perfect]

just checked mine and my mates bikes
mates are all broken in half(see pic)!!! his bike is an orange model and was in the uk before my later blue one,
mine are all intact both done about a thousand miles,
maybe a duff batch (clips or levers?)
btw. both our bikes are suffering with the dash misting up!!!
at the dealers this weekend to get it sorted:bond:
apart from that the bikes are awesome:burnout:
cheers steve..

I agree it must be a faulty batch.

I'm sorry to hear your mate is a victim of the clip failure, I'm relieved it's not just me though!

Just put a big post up about the misty dash on the forum, a guy is having major speedo problems, I think this could be a common problem too!

have a read

Perfect:)

[burty]

Whilst we are discussing bits falling apart...

Not exactly falling apart, but I have managed to wear though the finish on both of the pillion peg hangers where my heel rubs. The right hand one was worn through within a few hundred miles, and the left one is wearing badly. I wear a pair of Oxtar boots, and there is nothing particularly special about them other than the fact that they have plastic heel plates. I do know that my heel touches this part of the bike all the time that i ride (I always ride with the balls of my feet on the pegs) Has anyone else had similar experiences?

[perfect]

Whilst we are discussing bits falling apart...

Not exactly falling apart, but I have managed to wear though the finish on both of the pillion peg hangers where my heel rubs. The right hand one was worn through within a few hundred miles, and the left one is wearing badly. I wear a pair of Oxtar boots, and there is nothing particularly special about them other than the fact that they have plastic heel plates. I do know that my heel touches this part of the bike all the time that i ride (I always ride with the balls of my feet on the pegs) Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Hey Burt,

Mine are starting to wear through too, I'm considering covering them with some carbon fibre or more likely clear sheeting. They are not to bad at the moment but I need to do something before they get any worse.

Dan

[burty]

I was thinking of making some small carbon fibre strips too.

Mine is well beyond any clear options now.

I'm more than a little disapointed that the finish can't stand up in use to be honest, it's not what I expected.

[perfect]

i know I felt the same, it looks really tuff but it's clearly not

I'll put some carbon on today and post pics up to see what you think, my only worry is the bike is so perfectly styled it might make it look tacky , don't know I will try it anyway.

Dan:)

[Rosie]

Hi Perfect and Burty. Perfect, have you got pics yet?

Burty - I was wondering whether you'd be able to post photos of what you mean?

Thanks :)

Rosie

[atatter]

I also have circlips missing and broken. I live in Sydney and bought the bike from Motorino. I just called them, they didnt even know what the clips were let alone the problem so I called Aprilia Australia and they have not heard of this problem so I suggest everyone contact Aprilia as it is obviously not a one off issue - I think they are weak and with the natural lever flex are snapping. By the way if you live in Sydney and are thinking of buying from Motorino...don't.:bangwall:

[atatter]

I contacted Dan at Aprilia Aus today and he gave me the following info about the clip problem

the c clip problem on the levers is known to him with many complaints. Apparantly he went to check their demo bike after one such complaint and they were in place but when he flicked one it broke off. In his words far too brittle and lacking in strength. He said they do not have parts and have to change over the whole lever...but is contacting Aprilia and is hopeful they will get some in. There are some non Aprilia solutions apparantly.

[perfect]

yeah, buy your own spare E clips!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/E-CLIP-PACK-300-ASSORTED-SIZES-INCLUDING-CASE_W0QQitemZ170214418702QQihZ007QQcategoryZ9886Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Perfect:)

[burty]

Hi Perfect and Burty. Perfect, have you got pics yet?

Burty - I was wondering whether you'd be able to post photos of what you mean?

Thanks :)

Rosie



Here you go, see the pictures attached.

The right hand side was pretty much like this within 200 miles, the left not so quickly. Clearly my heel rubs more on the right than the left, and there must be some reason why I wore through the right first. I always ride with the balls of my feet on the pegs, and I wear Oxtar boots with the plastic heel protectors.

[makrand]

I'm so glad you posted them as I have been much more loath to put my feet up for longer periods since you posted the first thread about it.
But I'm afraid my bike is the opposite of Dans (Perfect).
I may post a picture one day but my bike is definitely looking pretty well used by now and those little marks would go unnoticed.

It's still really pretty but usually covered in a thin patina of mud and dust.

Going to pick up my FAMSA tank bag today, yey.

If anyone gets this who knows in the next three hours.... can I put it on without tools?
I can see the front would work but what happens under the seat?

[burty]

I know it's small and could be considered trivial. I just think that it shouldn't happen, not in such a short space of time. I don't consider that I have abused the bike in any way. Indeed most bikes come with heel plates to stop this kind of thing. It's poor design or an inappropriate finish on that part of the bike.

My car dealer changed all the door handles on my car, under warranty because the paint on one was flaking off after three years. I just told them I thought it shouldn't happen, they agreed and changed all 4, no questions asked. We weren't even the original owners.

[makrand]

I totally agreee that it should have been designed to withstand the heel rub.
After all, most of us will ride with our toes on the pegs at least sometimes.
I only put mine up on the corners when I'm going for it, and only on the one side.
Judging by their past performance we can expect a fix from Aprilia shortly :)

[Shiverdog]

Just went for a ride and thought i would check the clips.
Mine are BOTH missing :bangwall::bangwall: i am totally pissed off- i ve only done 250 km :fangs:

other than that , i started being paranoid about all other possible screws that may be missing. So i took some pics and something doesnt feel right. please check them and tell me if this is normal ..
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2501/vida1vm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2501/vida1vm5.a70cecc480.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=47&i=vida1vm5.jpg)

from a different angle:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6808/vida2fb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6808/vida2fb5.de47f151ba.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=233&i=vida2fb5.jpg)

the other side, for comparison
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4214/vida3ut1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4214/vida3ut1.7c77c2588d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=137&i=vida3ut1.jpg)

so what do you think guys? are ther missing or not? also, its a good idea to check your bikes just in case..

[burty]

Is what missing?

Those bits look normal to me.

[Shiverdog]

are you sure? it seems to me the cover of a screw or some similar part is missing. Am i wrong? i hope so..

[makrand]

They are both normal.

Your lever circlips may have fallen off before you even picked the bike up.

[perfect]

That's normal that's the pin for the rear swing arm.

It's secured on the left with a nyloc nut that is torqued up to 60 Nm or
(44.25 lbf ft) trust me that isn't coming undone, I know I changed mine!

See diagram and stop worrying :banana:

http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=1323

Perfect:)

[Jambo]

Hmmm not happy!:pissed: I dread to think what would have happened if the main pin on the front brake lever had popped out whilst riding??

Like mine did on my '05 Tuono?

Was riding down a hill on the way to work when my span adjuster went for a burton and my front lever went completely.

Was great fun, had to use the notoriously bad mille/tuono rear brake all the rest of the way to work and whilst limping home that night.

Was a oil tanker sort of affair, take it slowly and give the rear brake a few hundred metre's notice before you actually want to come to a complete stop.

[pete roper]

This could be a serious safety issue but the good news is that fixing it should be really easy for those of us who live in countries where people still mend stuff.

The circlips involved are obviously horribly inferior ar a bad batch. You can, at least around here, go to any bearing factor and purchase a little baggy of suitable circlips for a dollar or two at most. It will cost you more in phone calls, heartache and time off the road to wait for your dealer to sort it.

If someone can give me the measurements of the circlips in question, (My guess is they will be 8mm ID x 1mm thick.) I'll pick a bag of 'em up tomorrow and anyone who can't find 'em locally I'll stick a couple in an envelope and post 'em to you.

One thing that amazed me when I was in LA last year was that there were no bearing factors! I was searching for some 3205AC3 bearings for a Guzzi gearbox. I can get them over the counter in Canberra with at most a day's wait. When I did finally get onto a bearing shop by whone they said that they had them listed and *might* have two in Birmingham Alabama and maybe there was a pair in Canada! Amazing! The AC3's are a different construction to the usual bearings which are commonly an ATN9 and in Guzzis the latter are prone to failing so if I have a box apart I will always change 'em out but I was gob-smacked that something as simple as a bearing was unavailable. Maybe circlips are the same!

pete

[Shiverdog]

That's normal that's the pin for the rear swing arm.

It's secured on the left with a nyloc nut that is torqued up to 60 Nm or
(44.25 lbf ft) trust me that isn't coming undone, I know I changed mine!

See diagram and stop worrying :banana:

http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=1323

Perfect:)

thanks, i feel relieved :)

[Jambo]

My dealer (in the UK) had the circlip in stock as a consumable.

[cheekythomas]

A lot of dealers will, its just a normal sized clip... but they shouldnt come off.

If the paints wearing on the footrests complain to your dealer and get em changed, im a dealer tech and if i saw it the claim would be done.

[perfect]

Ok well I'm in at the dealer on Thursday, I'll get him to have a look at them.

Also they have just confirmed that it will be going on the dyno whilst it's there.

Don't worry I'm taking my camera.

Dan

[leo_shiver]

I also have a clip missing from the brake... will take it to the dealer today.
Leo

[Meriadoc]

Is it possible to get rearsets with heel plates to protect the paintwork?

Cheers,
Meriadoc

[makrand]

Do peanuts go mouldy faster than other nuts?

[burty]

Is it possible to get rearsets with heel plates to protect the paintwork?

Cheers,
Meriadoc

Unfortunately the problematic paintwork is on the part of the bike that you would have to remove to fit rearsets.

[Meriadoc]

Unfortunately the problematic paintwork is on the part of the bike that you would have to remove to fit rearsets.

I see. Perhaps there's some way of covering the vulnerable area? I guess I should check for myself, only I don't get my new bike till this sat!:blah: