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RandyRSV
02-22-2008, 12:07 PM
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/February-1-3/18-24/feb2208worldexclusiveapriliarsv4/?R=EPI-98757

backys
02-22-2008, 12:12 PM
:lover::lover::lover::lover:

OMG It's sooooo sexy

:banana: :banana:

vision
02-22-2008, 12:19 PM
http://www.racewaynews.net/immagini/articoli/1225/2a.jpg

http://www.racewaynews.net/immagini/articoli/1225/1a.jpg

http://www.racewaynews.net/immagini/articoli/1225/7a.jpg

http://www.racewaynews.net/immagini/articoli/1225/8a.jpg

RSVPower
02-22-2008, 12:22 PM
YES!!!!!!!!! Finally. that tail is the Hawtness!

Devildog
02-22-2008, 12:25 PM
geez, why did'nt they just go ahead and make it a freakin naked bike? :confused:

It looks like they could'nt afford a real body for it or something

ScottieDucati
02-22-2008, 12:25 PM
The freakin radiator / oil cooler is *HUGE*... YEOWSAH!!!

Sexy Sexy!!!!

crojack
02-22-2008, 12:26 PM
:plus::plus:

hank
02-22-2008, 12:43 PM
:worship:

That is a sweet bike - hope it is worth the wait!
:cheers:

From the official Aprilia website:
http://www.aprilia.com/magazine_dettaglio.asp?id=1304

JCG
02-22-2008, 12:53 PM
:worship:

That is a sweet bike - hope it is worth the wait!
:cheers:

From the official Aprilia website:
http://www.aprilia.com/magazine_dettaglio.asp?id=1304

Maybe it is a poor translation, but I read in that article that there will be a road version in 2008. Who knows Italian?

gyges_1
02-22-2008, 12:56 PM
From the looks of the racing upper the headlights may be slim-lined somewhat a la 1098 or possibly more a centralized unit...perhaps Gixxer-esque?

Hmm...wonder which one I'd prefer :rolleyes:

Crazy Horse
02-22-2008, 12:57 PM
End of 2008 for the road bike debut.

DaRocka
02-22-2008, 01:00 PM
:worship:great bike. The design is awesome!!:bond:


Hope to see it live soon.

vtrandall
02-22-2008, 01:01 PM
why couldn't the frame be gold colored?



:kidding:

it looks a little "wide"....not that it's a bad thing.

benya
02-22-2008, 01:04 PM
geez, why did'nt they just go ahead and make it a freakin naked bike? :confused:

It looks like they could'nt afford a real body for it or something

Thats the design trend these days. See the new Honda 1000, Kawi ZX-10, Yamaha R6, etc.
I read somewhere it reduces crosswinds effect, and some other aerodynamic benefits.

IMHO, the bike looks great, love the beefy swingarm and frame spars. I do see design cues from other mfgs bikes in the tail, the nose, a la R6 and GSX-R...

gyges_1
02-22-2008, 01:04 PM
Here's my challenge for the FORUM...

Who can turn one of those Pics into a DESKTOP WALLPAPER for my PC!!!

:burnout:

benya
02-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Maybe it is a poor translation, but I read in that article that there will be a road version in 2008. Who knows Italian?

Just click the icon in the top right corner that says "English version"

hank
02-22-2008, 01:14 PM
02-22-2008 - 18:46

THE APRILIA RSV 4 “RACE MACHINE” IS UNVEILED FOR THE FIRST TIME

The Aprilia Superbike, the bike which from 2009 will bring the Noale based company back to four-stroke racing, has been unveiled for the first time during the Piaggio Group Convention in Milan.

After the success in the 2007 World Championships with Aprilia riders and bikes dominating the 125 and 250 classes (winning all four titles, a repeat of the 2006 performance), the Veneto company gave a preview of the eagerly awaited RSV 4 “Race Machine”.

An extraordinary preview to a privileged audience of more than 1,200 dealers attending the International Piaggio Group Convention.

Four cylinders, 1000 cc, power of well over 200 HP in the race version, the new bike due to make its road debut by the end of 2008 will mark Aprilia's return to the World Superbike Championship in the 2009 season.


The Aprilia RSV 4 is driven by the most revolutionary and powerful engine ever built by Aprilia. A four-cylinder one litre 65° V engine - a layout making it unique among all the world's production engines - in which the most sophisticated engine engineering is combined with top quality materials and the most advanced electronic control technology.

The Aprilia engine in fact uses integral ride-by-wire technology, opening up new frontiers in managing such a powerful engine, with almost infinite possibilities for controlling power output and traction.

JCG
02-22-2008, 01:25 PM
Here's my challenge for the FORUM...

Who can turn one of those Pics into a DESKTOP WALLPAPER for my PC!!!

:burnout:

Right click on the picture and choose "Set as background". Done!

mikeyyc
02-22-2008, 01:27 PM
Here's the avatar if anyone wants it.

78563

hank
02-22-2008, 01:30 PM
For the street version - I would prefer more bodywork around the engine and a shorty exhaust or under engine exhaust - the side mount is out of date IMO...

I wonder how much it weighs...

SlipinSlidin
02-22-2008, 01:34 PM
I'm in love, I want more info so bad!!

mikeyyc
02-22-2008, 01:43 PM
The lack of bodywork probably helps with heat management, and same for keeping the exhaust away from the suspension reservoirs.

olie
02-22-2008, 01:58 PM
more pics...
http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/gallery.nsf/WebGallery?OpenFrameSet&Frame=Body&Src=%2Fedisport%2Fmoto%2Fgallery.nsf%2FHFoto%2F6a6 f135c3ea152cbc12573f70064af8d%3FOpenDocument%26Que ry%3DRL%26AutoFramed

Schu
02-22-2008, 01:59 PM
Ride by Wire :bond:

bobdavis73
02-22-2008, 02:14 PM
They just have to bring one of these to the MotoGP in Indy this year.

Bob

Gabro
02-22-2008, 02:26 PM
more picures:
http://picasaweb.google.it/Forotello/RSV4?authkey=Q42Sr2AVjAg

and the ROARRRRR!!! (video)

http://picasaweb.google.it/Forotello/RSV4/photo?authkey=Q42Sr2AVjAg#5169866550099616706

Schu
02-22-2008, 02:37 PM
Nice!!!

Devildog
02-22-2008, 02:41 PM
Thats the design trend these days. See the new Honda 1000, Kawi ZX-10, Yamaha R6, etc.
I read somewhere it reduces crosswinds effect, and some other aerodynamic benefits.

IMHO, the bike looks great, love the beefy swingarm and frame spars. I do see design cues from other mfgs bikes in the tail, the nose, a la R6 and GSX-R...

I know and I HATE IT! Except for the ducati and to a lesser exent the cube I think all of the motogp bikes are butt ugly! I've never been able to figure out why going to the 4 strokes prompted such an extreme change in aerodynamics. I think the YZRs and NSRs were the best looking bikes ever built

Tdawg
02-22-2008, 02:45 PM
more picures:
http://picasaweb.google.it/Forotello/RSV4?authkey=Q42Sr2AVjAg

and the ROARRRRR!!! (video)

http://picasaweb.google.it/Forotello/RSV4/photo?authkey=Q42Sr2AVjAg#5169866550099616706

16000 RPM :worship::worship: http://picasaweb.google.it/Forotello/RSV4/photo?authkey=Q42Sr2AVjAg#s5169858668834627986
:plus:

Crazy Horse
02-22-2008, 02:47 PM
The sound must not be a good recording, it reminds me of my old EX500 racebike.

tiopepe
02-22-2008, 02:51 PM
Hell Yeah:worship:

ScottieDucati
02-22-2008, 02:57 PM
Wow, so that really does look like a street version of the Cube.... Just looked at some Cube pics right after and the similarities are striking! (Frame, swingarm... etc.)



Sahweet.

Jony2Stones
02-22-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm down for one (whenever/if it comes out street-legal).....

Soooo hot....:worship:

bobdavis73
02-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Too late now... I heard how it sounds.... Hey honey! about that vacation you were looking forward to going on.... well something has come up. I'm going to need the money for something very important.:worship:


Bob

duc slayer
02-22-2008, 03:47 PM
:funnypost:funnypost:funnypost:funnypost:funnypost :funnypost:funnypost:funnypost

could let us know how that works out for ya :D

Kid A
02-22-2008, 04:19 PM
while it's not ugly in any way, it does definitely look like a larger R6. I really think they looked to the Japanese design standards on this one.
They did good on the colors/graphics though. Very simple and tasteful.

hank
02-22-2008, 04:35 PM
The bike is probably a lot shorter than we think - the engine is extremely compact and even the rear-sets are extended quite a bit back...

Sal Khan
02-22-2008, 04:37 PM
R6? WHAT?!

Maybe the fact that they both have 2 wheels? That's all I see.

Aprilia, Piaggio, anyone who's listening. Please, for the love of God, no stupid colors. That's all I ask. ;)

AndyD
02-22-2008, 04:50 PM
They just have to bring one of these to the MotoGP in Indy this year.

Bob

Hey Bob do you have an email address or the like so we can request that they bring it to Indy??? Or perhaps they're thinking to bring it to Miller in Utah.

pry4ski
02-22-2008, 04:55 PM
R6? WHAT?!

Maybe the fact that they both have 2 wheels? That's all I see.
;)


:plus:

ChicagoFactory
02-22-2008, 05:04 PM
Very cool looking bike. Does anyone know where I can get some high res pics for my desktop?

AndyD
02-22-2008, 05:18 PM
Too late now... I heard how it sounds.... Hey honey! about that vacation you were looking forward to going on.... well something has come up. I'm going to need the money for something very important.:worship:


Bob

Yeah.... and then she'll give you a copy of that famous Tammy Wynette song when you're served the papers...!

Let's see it starts out spelling something:

My D-I-V-O-R-C-E became final today.....!!!!!
















:kidding:

fnfalman
02-22-2008, 05:54 PM
Rear end looks distinctive and Aprilia-like. Front end looks like a Yamaha.

Tuonize it and I'll buy it.:worship:

NeoGeniX
02-22-2008, 05:59 PM
More pics will be uploaded the whole evening at http://aprilianews.blogspot.com :plus:

Alfie Whizz
02-22-2008, 06:06 PM
According to Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2008/02/22/afx4686649.html), at the same convention:

"Piaggio officials said Aprilia plans to enter the senior 500cc Moto GP world championship in future, but there is no date yet." :rolleyes:

ilVoce
02-22-2008, 06:10 PM
The front, looking straight on, looks mean as hell. I like it!

The frame looks like ass, though. Reminds me of late-90s GSX-R or FZR. The one saving grace is that diagonal cut-out that flows down the frame spars and into the swingarm. Very cool.

Did anyone see that top triple clamp? One solid piece!

cwalker
02-22-2008, 06:11 PM
i've got a bl**dy devil sitting on my shoulder, whispering 'project mayhem3' into my ears.... :rolleyes::burnout:

crojack
02-22-2008, 06:15 PM
That thing looks like it's ready to kick somebodies ass!!!

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?lnk=rss&article=31497

Alfie Whizz
02-22-2008, 06:21 PM
Very cool looking bike. Does anyone know where I can get some high res pics for my desktop?
There's a bigger one on this Aprilia RSV-4 (http://www.maxmoto.co.uk/aprilia_v4.shtml) page, though I wouldn't quite call it high rez.

bigzona
02-22-2008, 06:22 PM
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

Poetry, absolute poetry.

NeoGeniX
02-22-2008, 06:31 PM
Bloody hell this thing is gorgeous...

I've hoped they would use the FV2 1200 rear and they did!

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/aprilia-fv2-1200/big_p03311_0207.jpg


This is how an Aprilia should look. Black fairings,black wheels and silver frame.

I put some pics up at aprilia news that could be used as a wallpaper.

FredE
02-22-2008, 07:13 PM
"Piaggio officials said Aprilia plans to enter the senior 500cc Moto GP world championship in future, but there is no date yet."

They'll need a time machine to do that.

In my best Mr. Peabody voice: "Sherman, set the controls for the Way-Back Machine to the year 2001." :D

hank
02-22-2008, 07:32 PM
They'll need a time machine to do that.

In my best Mr. Peabody voice: "Sherman, set the controls for the Way-Back Machine to the year 2001." :D

:cheers: A classic show!

vato loco
02-22-2008, 07:52 PM
Definitely looks like a beefier R6, but directly from the front it reminds me of that new Rotax-powered Buell. Yikes!

Can't wait until this thing is road tested...

Bremms
02-22-2008, 09:29 PM
I'll stop my bitching!! It's really nice.. and it's almost here. If they can price the road version anywhere near $20K it will take some Ducati sales for sure

Awesome Bike. May have to sell the Factory at the end of the year!! Aw
shit I'll sell my Kawaski and make the Mille into a custom standard.

I love the frame it's form follows function. Boy do I like V-4's

rzemyk
02-22-2008, 10:35 PM
I better be hurry only 1000 sbk versions !!!

DeBenGuzzi
02-23-2008, 12:00 AM
watch the video, they had it running, this thing sounds like its going to eat my children, :worship:

RSV4ME
02-23-2008, 12:16 AM
Well done Aprilia, it's gorgeous..... I cant wait to see the road version. :cheers:

bigzona
02-23-2008, 12:17 AM
watch the video, they had it running, this thing sounds like its going to eat my children, :worship:

Thats cause it will, so keep them away. This things is going to dominate:)

bicilindricov60
02-23-2008, 12:27 AM
I think the street version will look similar to this....maybe a different tail/rear subframe

bigzona
02-23-2008, 12:45 AM
So 200 HP race version, what about street version? 170? 180?

170+ is my suspicion

2pist
02-23-2008, 02:07 AM
The crankcase looks like a cummins diesel. It's hugh.

Beau1K
02-23-2008, 04:07 AM
That's no production bike...the street version will be much more refined I'm sure...and what's up with that NASTY weld right in the middle of the frame - :WTF:

R6? You suckaz need some glasses. The front end is ALL aprilia...the rear reminds me more of some other bikes but I'm sure once the tail lights get in there it will look all ape too.

I agree with the "please Aprilia...if you are reading this now...please don't use some tacky color scheme" sentiment. I want one in all black, carbon fiber everything please :) Can I start making my finance payments now:confused:

Beau1K
02-23-2008, 04:10 AM
Ride by Wire :bond:

Hope they don't have to recall it like the Mana :bangwall::eek:

Esta56
02-23-2008, 04:21 AM
Do not say anything, not a single word like......


'I think the mudguard should be extended 2mm' :confused:

'I'm not sure I like the angle of the bars, I would have moved them up half a degree':confused:

'That bolt looks like one I've seen on the R6' :confused:


........the bike is goreous.........end of!!! Though I do wonder if they could have made the wheels a litle bit more rounder :eek:

MaKuono
02-23-2008, 05:35 AM
I sure hope that Aprilia don´t ruin it in the street clothes...Like Ducati made with the 999..

I think that the Ducati 999 were one of the best looking bikes in the racing suit but the street headlights (disposed vertically) were awful and i think that were one of the motives that some liked it but most hate it...And that made a lot of us dream about the 916.

...The same with Benelli Tornado, some Bimota and Gixxers...:bond:

It´s a little bit as a human being with two eyes disposed one above the other...Or a girl with one tit above the other...Because we really like them in pairs, but SIDE to SIDE one another!:bump:

Just my opinion...

GO APRILIA, GO!!:gunner:

hank
02-23-2008, 06:19 AM
Every aspect of the frame is fully adjustable - it will be a lot of work for the WSBK guys to get sorted having all of the available options...

I like it more and more - my new wallpaper! :worship:

dsgfh
02-23-2008, 06:57 AM
They've obviously decided with the styling that the engine is what the bike's all about, so have minimised the fairings to show it off as much as possible. Any less & it would be a naked with a bikini though. Not sure about it yet, but with the engine sounding like that the looks will grow on me very quickly.

claudio
02-23-2008, 08:33 AM
What is the consensus on the exhaust placement?

i thought all bikes except the zx10 were going to be underseat, underengine, or some dual shite like the gixxer. despite the practical nature of it's current placement, it appears to lack the same creativity invested in the rest of the bike.

mrgrn
02-23-2008, 10:41 AM
try to bend 4 pipes in such a compact motor and frame and tell me where yu would put it?

i don't like the open sides too much on the bodywork

DeBenGuzzi
02-23-2008, 11:21 AM
What is the consensus on the exhaust placement?

i thought all bikes except the zx10 were going to be underseat, underengine, or some dual shite like the gixxer. despite the practical nature of it's current placement, it appears to lack the same creativity invested in the rest of the bike.


try to bend 4 pipes in such a compact motor and frame and tell me where yu would put it?

i don't like the open sides too much on the bodywork
and those have been addressed in a way that makes sense to me

The lack of bodywork probably helps with heat management, and same for keeping the exhaust away from the suspension reservoirs.

but its the prototype for the WSBK its not going in your garage, its like saying I don't like where they put the exhaust on rossi's dominating yamaha m1 and the graphics were so over the top I'm not going to buy that :rolleyes:. Wait for the street bike to debut, then make your style complaints as I doubt any of you(maybe cwalker) will even get to touch THIS bike(the one for WSBK) and I imagine the finished fairings will be different, probably only similar up front but they might need a 1+1 model, tho I wouldn't I don't take riders.

Diablo1
02-23-2008, 12:25 PM
They need to show me a picture of the new stator.......:kidding:

or maybe I'm not.

bull*ramus
02-23-2008, 12:46 PM
I want one and I want it now...preferably in matt black.

RSV4ME
02-23-2008, 01:02 PM
...and what's up with that NASTY weld right in the middle of the frame - :WTF:

:

Jeezus Christ Beau, you speak some shit some times. And how would you join a cast section into a frame? Go and get a steak, your body is metabolizing it's own brain in the search of protein. :happy:

I think it looks awesome. :devil:

suedboy
02-23-2008, 01:08 PM
Do not say anything, not a single word like......


'I think the mudguard should be extended 2mm' :confused:

'I'm not sure I like the angle of the bars, I would have moved them up half a degree':confused:

'That bolt looks like one I've seen on the R6' :confused:


........the bike is goreous.........end of!!! Though I do wonder if they could have made the wheels a litle bit more rounder :eek:

THANK YOU!!!! God, that shit get's old. The way this forum has sounded as of late, you'd think this was an Aprilia hate group, not owner's group.

uberchicken
02-23-2008, 01:24 PM
170+ is my suspicion

Hey BigZ,

I'm 04RSVR on Motohouston.

Mike

drako
02-23-2008, 02:36 PM
What are the chances of getting all 6 of the V4 threads merged? Getting kind or hard to keep up with it all. :rolleyes:

I've got a hard on (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141852)
Aprilia RSV-4 World Superbike "Official Pictures" (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141843)
Aprilia v4 pic? (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141838)
Here he is: V4 (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141850)
2008 Aprilia V4 1000 (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83052)
Aprilia V-4 Revealed!! (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141913)

Kid A
02-23-2008, 03:45 PM
:soap:I think people are taking this way too seriously. If someone wants to comment on the bike they should be able to without hurting someones feelings. It's like this thing was built and designed by the people on this forum or something.

Just because Aprilia built it doesn't mean everyone has to think it is the best bike ever to be seen by our eyes. I think it is Very cool, and I'm sure it will outperform most bikes out there but if someone wants to say "I don't like the look of the tail section", etc... then who is he hurting? I don't think anyone here is saying they could do better. So, if someone says they love it please don't pat yourself on the back, and if they dislike it then try and stay way from any bridges. :soap:

hank
02-23-2008, 03:48 PM
What are the chances of getting all 6 of the V4 threads merged? Getting kind or hard to keep up with it all. :rolleyes:

I've got a hard on (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141852)
Aprilia RSV-4 World Superbike "Official Pictures" (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141843)
Aprilia v4 pic? (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141838)
Here he is: V4 (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141850)
2008 Aprilia V4 1000 (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83052)
Aprilia V-4 Revealed!! (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141913)

Add another one... up to 7! :cheers:
Sound Clip from RSV4 (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141922)

Probably will reach 10 separate threads before too long...:p:

Sal Khan
02-23-2008, 05:53 PM
They should use a ton of LED light for the headlights... Like this:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/R77mslo8ApI/AAAAAAAAENA/wzi6dD4HVvQ/s1600-h/gpz10r.jpg

Would be very smooth and suit the front lines.

Frazzermac
02-23-2008, 07:26 PM
:lover::lover::lover::lover:

OMG It's sooooo sexy

:banana: :banana::plus::plus::plus::plus::plus::plus::plus: :plus::plus::plus::plus::plus:

PeterM
02-23-2008, 07:53 PM
Looking at the detail pic a couple of pages back it appears the bike may be a wet clutch (you can see the oil filler plug at the top left of the cover) and the engine can be moved within the frame to a small degree.

drako
02-23-2008, 08:29 PM
Add another one... up to 7! :cheers:
Sound Clip from RSV4 (http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141922)

Probably will reach 10 separate threads before too long...:p:

:D :cheers:

bigzona
02-23-2008, 09:01 PM
Hey BigZ,

I'm 04RSVR on Motohouston.

Mike

I already knew your s/n on here Mike. As we discussed, the madness has started, and the countdown to the street version:cheers:

I'm aiming for second year of production to get one, assuming I can afford it.

soc12r
02-24-2008, 05:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSh_tOSdPtc

soc12r
02-24-2008, 05:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSh_tOSdPtc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0_hBjkaGZs

Check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!

soc12r
02-24-2008, 05:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSh_tOSdPtc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0_hBjkaGZs

Check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frazzermac
02-24-2008, 05:33 AM
I'm saving now but I'll wait for the second generation but hopefully they will release an RSV1200.....:plus:

I'm missing my V-Twin I only sold it 2 weeks ago:crybaby:




I'm aiming for second year of production to get one, assuming I can afford it.

DaRocka
02-24-2008, 05:49 AM
I'm saving now but I'll wait for the second generation but hopefully they will release an RSV1200.....:plus:

I'm missing my V-Twin I only sold it 2 weeks ago:crybaby:

why did you sell it?:confused:

Frazzermac
02-24-2008, 06:33 AM
Looking to buy a house just now with a garage..

It was costing me money to store and it was going to start to get expensive to keep, new suspension, new tyres, new chain & sprocket and that was going to be in the next 6 months...

So when I buy a place with a garage I'll buy another bike & put it in it...:plus:

Hopefully either an RSV-4 or an RSV1200 either way it'll be one of them:plus:

jimuk
02-24-2008, 07:48 AM
Yes Aprilia have done well,it's the dogs bollocks,lets just hope the clutch and rear brake are better than the rsv.

desmodromic
02-24-2008, 09:17 AM
This is pretty minor... but it looks to me that the graphics on this bike are all circa year 2000. Pretty odd that Aprilia rolls out a new model and doesn't use their latest red-to-orange logos, etc...

Personally I much prefer the older graphics as seen here.

budoist
02-24-2008, 11:18 AM
The only graphics I saw were the Aprilia name (not even the logo). Since this seems to be the bodywork for the race bike, they probably want to leave it open for the sponsor placement (which they're likely still finalizing).

DaRocka
02-24-2008, 11:21 AM
Yes Aprilia have done well,it's the dogs bollocks,lets just hope the clutch and rear brake are better than the rsv.

Yes, and lets just hope that that they do not color the frame gold.

fabiovicenti
02-24-2008, 01:06 PM
A little bit better than the original, in my opinion...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2287627477_1ecc30033b_b.jpg

milleRrrr
02-24-2008, 03:25 PM
http://picasaweb.google.it/Forotello/RSV4/photo?authkey=Q42Sr2AVjAg#s5169859484878414642

anybody notice the clutch cylinder next to the chain.

2pist
02-24-2008, 03:37 PM
It looks more like a one off Motogp bike than anything. What we see in street clothes will be entirely different. Might even come with a bronzed lion head hood ornament and checkerboard frame graphics. Alot will change.

MASHMAN
02-24-2008, 08:52 PM
Not bad, needs more colour and twin exhausts, tis nice the way the indent in the frame carries on through the swingarm, but you might have noticed there's one guy in that pic that REALLY likes it. Now I could be wrong, but the guy with the glasses that's framing the front end, seems to be crackin one off in apreciation... and the guy right of him seems to be more impressed with what that guy is up to than the bike...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2287627477_1ecc30033b_b.jpg[/QUOTE]

AV8OR
02-24-2008, 09:49 PM
Very nice....looks handbuilt like a racebikes does. Very good starting point for the street bike.

AndyD
02-24-2008, 10:18 PM
Not bad, needs more colour and twin exhausts, tis nice the way the indent in the frame carries on through the swingarm, but you might have noticed there's one guy in that pic that REALLY likes it. Now I could be wrong, but the guy with the glasses that's framing the front end, seems to be crackin one off in apreciation... and the guy right of him seems to be more impressed with what that guy is up to than the bike...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2287627477_1ecc30033b_b.jpg[/QUOTE]

With all the sharp edges of the bike lines, the rectangular "aprilia" logo on the tank has to change. Needs movement. Maybe something as simple as an italicized rectangle to lean it forward.
JMO.

dowzerr
02-25-2008, 05:02 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/rednelly84/2287627477_1ecc30033b_b.jpg

fabiovicenti
02-25-2008, 06:18 AM
Not bad, needs more colour...
I have modified only the middle fairings profile leaving the rest of the RSV-4 unmodified. It won't had to be a grafic proposal...

Eyeque
02-25-2008, 11:09 AM
Guess I'm trading in my Speed Triple!

Frazzermac
02-25-2008, 11:48 AM
it sounds gorgeous....:plus::plus::plus:

Full Akrapovic system and giving it the berries down a back road, lovely......:plus:

Sal Khan
02-25-2008, 12:24 PM
No More Color!!!!!!

Eyeque
02-25-2008, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I second that! Aprilia is a little nutsy with the color and graphics as of late. All black is fine with me. No checkerboard, no neon colors, no stickers...just motor, titanium and carbon fiber...possibly and umbrela girl :)

Sal Khan
02-25-2008, 02:52 PM
I'm convinced they do it just to be "different" - not because it's nice or even tasteful... Much like the Cube. I believe Beggio's words were: "We chose the triple to be different from the rest of the paddock."

Should've just used a V4 THEN and painted everything Gold if you wanted to be different.

badrags
02-25-2008, 03:25 PM
Anyone care to speculate what the actual dimensions are? I am curious about seat height. I love Aprilia bikes, but they have always been too tall for me.

hank
02-25-2008, 03:37 PM
I'm convinced they do it just to be "different" - not because it's nice or even tasteful... Much like the Cube. I believe Beggio's words were: "We chose the triple to be different from the rest of the paddock."

Should've just used a V4 THEN and painted everything Gold if you wanted to be different.

Sal - please explain your avatar - two Asian babes, each with an octopus on their head, making out.... :confused:

Don't get me wrong - I kinda like it, but that's way out there buddy....

Eyeque
02-25-2008, 03:40 PM
Sal - please explain your avatar - two Asian babes, each with an octopus on their head, making out... - I heard that's what Aprilia is using for the new RSV4 graphics. According to Factory HQ..."it should look really different"


HAHA

Pumpkin
02-25-2008, 03:41 PM
i've got a bl**dy devil sitting on my shoulder, whispering 'project mayhem3' into my ears.... :rolleyes::burnout:

OOooooooohh please do... Then I can come and drool over it at your place, Perv :D :D :D

That V4 is Hotness incarnated, I think it looks drop dead sexy :lover: :lover: :lover: :lover:

wouldn't mind throwing my leg over it either :D

Tdawg
02-25-2008, 03:59 PM
No More Color!!!!!!

:plus:
just polish and clearcoat the frame and bodywork and add plate/lights.
the 250ish chrome sticker is fine, blue wheels are fine as well.
shouldn't go beyond 04 graphics...

421switch
02-25-2008, 04:02 PM
I like the exhaust, reminds me of Rossi's M1 with that huge collector pipe feeding a minimal can. Form follows function. I hope Aprilia keep the street version as raw and beautiful as it is in those pictures, just toss some lights, signals, and mirrors on the beast. And that exhaust definitely says "we have come for your daughters."

Sal Khan
02-25-2008, 04:07 PM
Sal - please explain your avatar - two Asian babes, each with an octopus on their head, making out.... :confused:

Don't get me wrong - I kinda like it, but that's way out there buddy....

Well the one girl has a tentacle in her mouth and the other is licking it. That should answer all your questions for you. :D ;) :)

Basically reiterates that Japanese culture can be freakin' bizarre. :D

Sal Khan
02-25-2008, 04:25 PM
Anyone care to speculate what the actual dimensions are? I am curious about seat height. I love Aprilia bikes, but they have always been too tall for me.

Well if the rear wheel is 17" in diameter, it look to be just under 77" long and 34" from the bottom of the belly pan to the top of the gas cap. But that was just quick and dirty that I came up with:

2pist
02-25-2008, 05:11 PM
It looks really short vertically and the engine sits really low in the frame. Mass centralization on a lower scale. Everybody else seems to be raising engines these days and lowering the fuel cell. Aprilia's approach looks very compact AND very low. There would be no way you could put an under the crankcase muffler on this baby. It should flick side to side with relative ease.

bobdavis73
02-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Screw that paint, it's the hardware that's beautiful. Screw any covers that don't help the air flow..... That's why I think the front end has got to go.

Bob

Sal Khan
02-25-2008, 05:28 PM
Screw that paint, it's the hardware that's beautiful. Screw any covers that don't help the air flow..... That's why I think the front end has got to go.

Bob

What's wrong with the front?
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Aprilia/Aprilia_RSV4_016.jpg
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Aprilia/Aprilia_RSV4_015.jpg

RSV4ME
02-25-2008, 08:12 PM
Below is the description from Raptors and Rockets, it says pneumonic valves.... is this correct??? Is that the same as pneumatic?

On February 22nd the RSV4 was unveiled for the first time at the Piaggio group convention in Milan. More than 1.200 Aprilia dealers attended the event. The RSV4 shown in Milan is the race machine and not the production version. The V4 is tilted at 65 degrees and the displacement is 1000 cc. Aprilia further states that it is the most powerful and innovative engine Noale have ever built. It will boast with more than 200 horsepower in race trim. The production version is said to be ready by the end of 2008. In 2009 Aprilia will race this bike in the world superbike championship hoping to finally build on its successes in the 125 and 250 GP classes. The engine uses integral ride-by-wire and we expect a very sophisticated engine management system. The 65 degree V4 was also chosen to utilize Aprilia’s extensive know how in producing a race chassis around narrow V-engines. The new V4 is even more compact than the current V60 used in the RSV models. Aprilia will use fly-by-wire technology with wiring never seen on any motorcycle before. The fuel management system is very advanced where servo motors only operate its own row of cylinders throttle bodies. This has been done to optimise high power engine management. This is needed when the V4 spins around at a maximum 13.500rpm. The details Aprilia released are as follows: projected to produce more than 210bhp @ 13.500rpm, 999cc, 65degree V4, 4 titanium and pneumonic valves per cylinder, six-speed cassette type gearbox and fly-by-wire ready ECU from Magnet Marelli. See and hear how the roaring V4 sounds like here. Leo Mercanti revs it up and looks very happy with the new Aprilia creation. Tor Sagen

Diablo1
02-25-2008, 08:56 PM
Below is the description from Raptors and Rockets, it says pneumonic valves.... is this correct??? Is that the same as pneumatic?

Tor Sagen

I'm pretty good at translating for one foreigner talking to another.

I think he meant to say four titanium and nimonic (high temperature superalloy used in turbines) valves per cylinder. I seriously doubt it could have pneumatic valves because the streetbike would also have to have pneumatic valves.....and there's no practical way to run that on the street in the forseeable future.

Micah / AF1 Racing
02-25-2008, 08:56 PM
The one they started for the crowd in that room definitely DID NOT have pneumatic valves. A minimum idle speed of 4,000 rpm is typically associated with pneumatics, and that engine idles at a much lower rpm. If they have found a way to do pneumatics without all the normal problems associated, I say HELL YEAH!

Raptors and Rubbish I am guessing.

13,500 rpm is not high for a modern spring valve engine.

I cannot express how excited I am about this new bike! This last week has been a good and prideful one as an Aprilia-isti!

duc slayer
02-25-2008, 11:02 PM
So when do you guys get yours :D

Micah / AF1 Racing
02-25-2008, 11:06 PM
As soon as they ship it! I am all over this one. I will no longer have to scour eBay for parts to make my/Essinger's RVF400 good again! I am have been a V4 fan for a long time. I have had three Honda models not including the 400cc that seems to have adopted me.

RS250 maTTz
02-26-2008, 01:53 AM
http://lh5.google.it/Forotello/R78H4Xbco2I/AAAAAAAACEk/y0xqqu-2kjY/FOTO%2022%2002%2008%20252.jpg?imgmax=512



The one they started for the crowd in that room definitely DID NOT have pneumatic valves. A minimum idle speed of 4,000 rpm is typically associated with pneumatics, and that engine idles at a much lower rpm. If they have found a way to do pneumatics without all the normal problems associated, I say HELL YEAH!

Raptors and Rubbish I am guessing.

13,500 rpm is not high for a modern spring valve engine.

I cannot express how excited I am about this new bike! This last week has been a good and prideful one as an Aprilia-isti!

RossGuzzi
02-26-2008, 02:18 AM
Oh shit....! I thought the Falco was going to be a keeper, and I would start to slow a little.....you know......dont need to go so fast anymore...:blah::blah:

Then I see this and, well, might just have to put old age off for a little bit longer I feel !! "Keep that rocking chair away from me for a bit longer dear, I have found a new play friend"!

The only thing I could pick (and its small) Just like Ducati has done over the years, I think the 'aprilia' logo on the tank could be redesigned from time to time.

Otherwise they have definatley hit the mark with this!! No fancy colours please!.......Solid red Hmmmmmm!!!!!

OZSLR
02-26-2008, 05:54 AM
Gorgeous, and a good dose of cube in there. I quite like the technology on display look of the bike, but I'm a fan of a "motorbike" showing it's motor.

Follow the tradition started with the RSVR's. Matt black and lots of carbon on display.

Jony2Stones
02-26-2008, 07:41 AM
As soon as they ship it! I am all over this one. I will no longer have to scour eBay for parts to make my/Essinger's RVF400 good again! I am have been a V4 fan for a long time. I have had three Honda models not including the 400cc that seems to have adopted me.

As soon as you guys find out USA stats on this bike --- I'm waiting with Deposit in hand....:worship:

Maxacceleration
02-26-2008, 11:11 AM
It looks more like a one off Motogp bike than anything. What we see in street clothes will be entirely different. Might even come with a bronzed lion head hood ornament and checkerboard frame graphics. Alot will change.

I agree, this bike could/will change a lot in the months ahead.
Fairing shapes, graphics lol, details and even major re-designs here and there.

Its a in your face, no flash, straight on race bike in these first pics.

I think form should follow funtion in its design. Set it up so it works! Put the pipe where it works best...
Aprilias current styling designs (RS125, Tuono & RSVR) are beautiful bikes. I would bet(hope) Aprilia ties in this bike with 'family' styling cues...
Like the Aprilias colors or not, an Aprilia is a one of a kind!

And... Aprilia IS on top of their racing game in SM and 250 GP.
Go Aprilia!

badrags
02-26-2008, 11:18 AM
Seeing how this bike has really caught my attention, just wondering what's the best Aprilia dealer in Illinois. Opinions? Anyone heard of Tag Sport?

Thanks

bozack
02-26-2008, 12:51 PM
sure wondering what MSRP will be...

Sal Khan
02-26-2008, 01:22 PM
sure wondering what MSRP will be...

I'm guessing 30-40,000 USD.

ChicagoFactory
02-26-2008, 01:50 PM
Seeing how this bike has really caught my attention, just wondering what's the best Aprilia dealer in Illinois. Opinions? Anyone heard of Tag Sport?

Thanks

I wouldn't recommend any of the IL dealers. I would check with Corse Superbikes in Saukville, WI. http://www.corsesuperbikes.com/

badrags
02-26-2008, 01:52 PM
You think it will be that much? My impression is this model will replace the RSV 1000. Doesn't make sense to keep the RSV 1000 around if the RSV-4 will be competing in WSBK. If that's the case, to only have one sport bike in your range and be priced at 30-40,000 would sink the company for sure. Maybe they will have a R version and a S version?

badrags
02-26-2008, 01:57 PM
Thanks Chicagofactory for the reply! I thought Corse was an Aprilia dealer, but when you look for them on apriliausa.com they are not listed. So I just checked aprilia.com and sure enough they are listed. Weird.

Eyeque
02-26-2008, 02:29 PM
I'm thinking closer to $22K would be realistic. Aprilia has always tried to compete with Ducati. In order to do so, they will have to price it right. I looks sick, I'm buying it even if I have to sell my wife on Ebay!

burty
02-26-2008, 02:35 PM
The front, looking straight on, looks mean as hell. I like it!

The frame looks like ass, though. Reminds me of late-90s GSX-R or FZR. The one saving grace is that diagonal cut-out that flows down the frame spars and into the swingarm. Very cool.

Did anyone see that top triple clamp? One solid piece!

Gotta agree, the frame is hideous and very old fashioned.

ihilker
02-26-2008, 03:36 PM
Sounds like you boys are new to V-4's. That frame looks like it came directly off a 3rd Gen Honda VFR. Same basic layout and was the !@#$ back in the day. The engine layout (other than 65 degree angle and hybrid gear/chain drive) Looks just like the Honda RVF, VFR or Ducati V4. Everything is in almost the identical place as a... well VFR. Look at the exhaust plumbing under the right rear set, look at where the shifter is... look at the oil inspection window.

This bike has me spun!

Aprilia built the bike Honda should have.

The thing that would really interest me is the crank and firing order. Sounds like a 180 not a 360.

benya
02-26-2008, 06:47 PM
I'm thinking closer to $22K would be realistic. Aprilia has always tried to compete with Ducati. In order to do so, they will have to price it right. I looks sick, I'm buying it even if I have to sell my wife on Ebay!

I doubt it will be that much. Maybe for the homologation special, a la RSV SP. Actually, an RSV4 SP would probably cost more than $22k, but a base bike will probably be in the $15-16k range with a factory version for $18-19k (Just my opinion, of course). I mean they want to sell these things, right? Look at the 1098's sales at $15k! Aprilia was always the Italian exotic that was more affordable than a Duc or an MV.

The engine is built in house, not sourced from Rotax, that has to be a cost savings. The frame, who knows? Still from Benelli?

2pist
02-26-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm thinking closer to $22K would be realistic. Aprilia has always tried to compete with Ducati. In order to do so, they will have to price it right. I looks sick, I'm buying it even if I have to sell my wife on Ebay!

Good to see you around the forums again. You took a long slumbering nap for a while.

Sal Khan
02-26-2008, 10:33 PM
I'm thinking closer to $22K would be realistic. Aprilia has always tried to compete with Ducati. In order to do so, they will have to price it right. I looks sick, I'm buying it even if I have to sell my wife on Ebay!

Well it's competing with the 1098R, nothing less. And IIRC, the 1098R will be in the Mid-30's, if not more.

Scratch that... 1098R is right at $40,000 according Motorcycle-usa.com.

Edit: I have a feeling it'll be 4-6 years before we see the V4 take over the production numbers the RSV had. I think Beggio even said it himself last year.

v90junkie
02-26-2008, 10:56 PM
Enough of the comparisons to the VFR. How many different ways can you do a V4?:tired:

rs250slowpoke
02-26-2008, 11:06 PM
while it's not ugly in any way, it does definitely look like a larger R6. I really think they looked to the Japanese design standards on this one.
They did good on the colors/graphics though. Very simple and tasteful.

:plus:

Shame on Aprilia for making a total rip off of an ugly ass R6.

Glad I didn't wait for this to come out.

Sal Khan
02-26-2008, 11:25 PM
R6?! WHAT?!

I opened up this:
http://www.bikeintro.com/wp-content/2008yamahayzf-r6white.jpg

And This:
http://www.bikeintro.com/wp-content/2008yamahayzf-r6white.jpg

Put them side by side on my screen and besides the fact that maybe, just MAYBE, the itty-bitty part where the nose is in line with the side panel might look the same in a dark alley while I'm catching herpes from a hooker, I can't understand the how R6 would come up... And even then from the front it's nothing like the R6.

I say, if you're going to say it copied something, pick something close?

I think the fumes of unpainted carbon fiber is affecting sight.

PeterM
02-27-2008, 12:53 AM
I wonder if a 'cooking version' of this will happen for a few years, if at all. The bike could be sold as the RSV4 as the race special, along the lines of the 1098R. This would definitely depend on the contractural arrangments with Rotax and whether the company will elect to keep the RSV as a twin at all.

Guess we'll find out in about 12 months.

Diablo1
02-27-2008, 06:31 AM
Since the 1200cc twins rule in Superbike gives the racing advantage to twins, Aprilia better get cracking on a new 1200 RSVR. The V4 won't be enough if they want to win.

Frazzermac
02-27-2008, 06:59 AM
A bottom of the range 1098 is £11500 here so I reckon they be selling for about £10000 Aprilia have always been more affordable and cheaper to run the dukes...:cheers:

I must admit tho I'd rather see the RSV1200 before I would spend any wonga on the V4, but why would Aprilia release a superbike v-twin the same time they had a superbike V4 for sale:rolleyes:


I doubt it will be that much. Maybe for the homologation special, a la RSV SP. Actually, an RSV4 SP would probably cost more than $22k, but a base bike will probably be in the $15-16k range with a factory version for $18-19k (Just my opinion, of course). I mean they want to sell these things, right? Look at the 1098's sales at $15k! Aprilia was always the Italian exotic that was more affordable than a Duc or an MV.

The engine is built in house, not sourced from Rotax, that has to be a cost savings. The frame, who knows? Still from Benelli?

rx7tt95
02-27-2008, 07:24 AM
R6 Ugly? Are you on crack? It has to be one of the best looking bikes coming out of Japan in recent memory. It's certainly a more cohesive and more aesthetically pleasing design than my Factory. And other than the barge boards high on the nose, there's really not much comparison between them. A bit in the tail but if you really take a look at the details, you'll see how much different they really are. Possible influence? Sure. Want to see an R6 copy? Take a look at the lastest BMW superbike pics running around the web. It had used R6 bodywork prior but seems to have it's own clothes in carbon now. Very similar to the R6.

Sal Khan
02-27-2008, 07:31 AM
Since the 1200cc twins rule in Superbike gives the racing advantage to twins, Aprilia better get cracking on a new 1200 RSVR. The V4 won't be enough if they want to win.

I would LOVE to hear the logic behind this one.

benya
02-27-2008, 07:45 AM
I would LOVE to hear the logic behind this one.

So would I. How much HP/Torque are the Japanese I4s putting out in Superbike? How about the 1098R?

It still remains to be seen, but judging by the results of the first WSBK races, the Ducs were dominant. Maybe Diablo has a point.....

Sal Khan
02-27-2008, 07:59 AM
So would I. How much HP/Torque are the Japanese I4s putting out in Superbike? How about the 1098R?

It still remains to be seen, but judging by the results of the first WSBK races, the Ducs were dominant. Maybe Diablo has a point.....

Who won Race 2 again? ;)

I don't think dominance can be factored in just yet. They may be ahead of the curve on development (and the fact that Suzuki and Yamaha are on "dated" packages doesn't help I'm certain) and had the most number of Podiums... but to say they're dominating is way premature. Look how long Ducati had to not only refine the chassis but the motor as well which helps not only the factory teams, but trickles down in the satellites as well as proven by Max and Ruben.

If last year is any indication, Toseland's Honda was putting down around 210-215 at the wheel. Torque was never given but I'm guessing well over 100 considering.

Eyeque
02-27-2008, 08:47 AM
Good to see you around the forums again. You took a long slumbering nap for a while. - Indeed. I sold my Mille and bought a Speed Triple and a Daytona 675. But, I'm sure I just found a new toy to occupy my garage. Big V4 fan and I think this bike is going to be fast, fast, fast!

badrags
02-27-2008, 09:02 AM
Well it's competing with the 1098R, nothing less. And IIRC, the 1098R will be in the Mid-30's, if not more.

Scratch that... 1098R is right at $40,000 according Motorcycle-usa.com.

Edit: I have a feeling it'll be 4-6 years before we see the V4 take over the production numbers the RSV had. I think Beggio even said it himself last year.

Agreed, however the 1098R does not contribute to the huge financial success that Ducati has experienced over the past year. For Aprilia's sake, it would be in their best interest to offer a strada/base version of this bike. As the saying goes "Race on Sunday, sell on Monday".

budoist
02-27-2008, 09:04 AM
:plus:

Shame on Aprilia for making a total rip off of an ugly ass R6.


The only thing that comes close to the R6 are the runners on the side of the nose. And, if you're talking copy, the style for that is a direct copy of the 999/749 from Ducati. In fact, the R6 copies the Ducati closer than Aprilia does. You might say that the pointy tail is similar to the R6, but considering how many bikes have pointy tails now it would be a rediculous statement. It's the vogue in MotoGP, and it's trickled down to production bikes. KTM has it now, and has a much closer copy of the R6 than the Aprilia does since the Aprilia tail is all curvy and much nicer looking. If they put the lights in the position from their 1200cc concept bike, it'll be a looker!

ihilker
02-27-2008, 10:25 AM
Enough of the comparisons to the VFR. How many different ways can you do a V4?:tired:

There are actually three ways.

Diablo1
02-27-2008, 11:27 AM
I would LOVE to hear the logic behind this one.

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/25february08_toostrong.htm

20% more displacement seems like dejavu all over again.
Remember when the Ducs were 1000cc and the 4-cylinders were 750cc?
There's a reason that Honda built the RC51.
And I don't really care what horsepower figures are quoted by secret sources. Just keep track of the race results and you'll see which engine configuration has the advantage. If the Ducs don't get restrictor plates in the throttle bores, they will dominate.

2pist
02-27-2008, 11:52 AM
I bet Honda is working on a 1200 V-2 at this very moment....

ihilker
02-27-2008, 12:49 PM
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/25february08_toostrong.htm

20% more displacement seems like dejavu all over again.
Remember when the Ducs were 1000cc and the 4-cylinders were 750cc?
There's a reason that Honda built the RC51.
And I don't really care what horsepower figures are quoted by secret sources. Just keep track of the race results and you'll see which engine configuration has the advantage. If the Ducs don't get restrictor plates in the throttle bores, they will dominate.

Yep... a decade of Ducati v-twin domination, save one year. The poor RC30's and RC45's getting their asses handed to them nearly every race. I agree the Duc will dominate this year... if they don't adjust or change the rules. They took 1 and 2 in Losail race 1, a track that Ducati never previously won at. Currently they have a 6kg weight disadvantage and there has been talk of raising that another 3kg.


I bet Honda is working on a 1200 V-2 at this very moment....

I wouldn't bet on that. They would have had to started on a new twin at least a year or two ago, and Honda just ain't like it used to be. No new twins... no new V-4's, just Honda corporate arrogance.

2pist
02-27-2008, 01:46 PM
[QUOTE=I wouldn't bet on that. They would have had to started on a new twin at least a year or two ago, and Honda just ain't like it used to be. No new twins... no new V-4's, just Honda corporate arrogance.[/QUOTE]

I agree about Honda's corporate arrogance and some of it depends on whether the AMA follows WSBK or not.

Diablo1
02-27-2008, 02:23 PM
Another reason that Aprilia should develop the RSVR 1200 is so they have all the bases covered for Superbike racing. If the rules favor the twins, they can be competitive. If the rules favor the four cylinders, they can be competitive. I wouldn't leave anything to the whims of the rules committee. And they can sell the twin and the V4 to us. Some folks prefer a twin and some want a v4.

bobdavis73
02-27-2008, 04:01 PM
Another reason that Aprilia should develop the RSVR 1200 is so they have all the bases covered for Superbike racing. If the rules favor the twins, they can be competitive. If the rules favor the four cylinders, they can be competitive. I wouldn't leave anything to the whims of the rules committee. And they can sell the twin and the V4 to us. Some folks prefer a twin and some want a v4.

Does anyone agree with me that the rules board seems to always manage to keep Ducati on top? I just seems to me that nothing seems to surprise Ducati.

Bob

mrgrn
02-27-2008, 05:08 PM
Yep... a decade of Ducati v-twin domination, save one year. The poor RC30's and RC45's getting their asses handed to them nearly every race. I agree the Duc will dominate this year... if they don't adjust or change the rules. They took 1 and 2 in Losail race 1, a track that Ducati never previously won at. Currently they have a 6kg weight disadvantage and there has been talk of raising that another 3kg.



I wouldn't bet on that. They would have had to started on a new twin at least a year or two ago, and Honda just ain't like it used to be. No new twins... no new V-4's, just Honda corporate arrogance.



the poor RC30 and RC45 won three WSBK titles as well as countless others like IOM, Suzuka, etc, the ducati did not

Sal Khan
02-27-2008, 05:33 PM
Yeah claiming a simple bump in displacement is insta-domination is a bit shortsighted, particularly this early in the season and this early in the bikes production stage (Remember Corser on the Mille SP?). Including the Hondas, you also had ZX-7RR's, R7's, and GSX-R750's that always gave Ducati a run... Chili on the 750 always jumps to mind when I think of that.

I'm sure Ducati's went through many boxes of tissues when begging the FIM to do the CC bump. My personal opinion (and I have nothing to back this up, pure speculation) was that they had the 1098/1199 in development for a longer time than suspected and decided they would hedge their bets and suck off the FIM governing body rather than try and make the Desmo16 V4 (and probably save a shit-load of money in the process) in enough numbers and developed enough to race in WSBK. But if you want a classic example of displacement taking a back seat, look no further than the Desmo16. It may cost a bunch but it'll run 200 HP in STREET trim with just shy of 1000cc's not to mention it's already at 165kg dry.

But I would be interested in hearing what everyone would say if they indeed did run the V4 in WSBK this year? "It's not fair it's a MotoGP engine!"? "Yeah well look how much it costs!"?

I say good on Aprilia Racing. Maybe not good on Aprilia sales, but I don't think anyone would mind seeing it at top of the production podium... again... and without having to resort to Ducati-esque strong-arm/Whining tactics.

v90junkie
02-27-2008, 05:42 PM
There are actually three ways.

D-oh! My bad. My guess is you're thinking, 3&1, 2&2, and 1&3?

RS250 maTTz
02-27-2008, 07:09 PM
the pics are nice, but is there anymore info on the engine?

like technology etc

Gabro
02-27-2008, 11:40 PM
My personal opinion (and I have nothing to back this up, pure speculation) was that they had the 1098/1199 in development for a longer time than suspected and decided they would hedge their bets and suck off the FIM governing body

it's what they did :)

anyway: WSBK first race in losail showed that the currently faster engine is the Suzuki. maybe it's a ducati tactic to avoid the restriction?

budoist
02-28-2008, 07:43 AM
the pics are nice, but is there anymore info on the engine?

like technology etc

From Aprilia.com (http://www.apriliausa.com/njb_dettaglio.asp?id=368)

From Google search: Link (http://www.maxmoto.co.uk/aprilia_v4.shtml)

ihilker
02-28-2008, 11:15 AM
the poor RC30 and RC45 won three WSBK titles as well as countless others like IOM, Suzuka, etc, the ducati did not

Don't get me wrong... The RC30 and RC45 are two of my absolute all time favorite bikes... and way ahead of their time. You are extremely fortunate. It was unfortunate IMHO that Honda (because of the rules) had to make the RC51 to be competitive against Ducati and drop the RVF race platform.

mrgrn
02-28-2008, 11:43 AM
Don't get me wrong... The RC30 and RC45 are two of my absolute all time favorite bikes... and way ahead of their time. You are extremely fortunate. It was unfortunate IMHO that Honda (because of the rules) had to make the RC51 to be competitive against Ducati and drop the RVF race platform.


i would agree 1000% and i also have one of those too LOL J/P

i had a CBR1000rr and it left me a bit flat and even my R1 does the same flat feeling but the 165hp does help

i have been wating for a V4 from somebodt and maybe aprilia is my bike

ihilker
02-28-2008, 12:54 PM
i would agree 1000% and i also have one of those too LOL J/P

i had a CBR1000rr and it left me a bit flat and even my R1 does the same flat feeling but the 165hp does help

i have been wating for a V4 from somebodt and maybe aprilia is my bike

Having owned both an Aprilia RSV and a Honda VFR in the past... you can see why the new RSV4 appeals so much to me. I have been waiting for someone to make a 1000cc V4 repli-racer ever since the last RC45 rolled off the assembly line. The D16 was obviously first but with limited #'s and a 72k price tag it's unobtainium for me.

I was hoping for a 1000cc, 90 degree, 360 crank, and full gear driven cams, but beggars can't be choosers so I will settle for a 1000cc, 65 degree, 180 crank, hybrid driven cams.

Micah / AF1 Racing
02-28-2008, 03:52 PM
The new RSV4 is "the bike" I have been waiting for too, for years now. I so hoped in the beginning of the 4 stroke era that Suzuki (I am not at all a Suzuki fan) was going to build the newest GSXR based on the V4. I have owned a few Honda V4's and they have character, they make visceral noises and they are smooth.

The RSVR has a lot of my hope and enthusiasm bundled into it. I desire the new Aprilia far more than a D16. I would say I actually desire the new RSV4 as much as or more than a clean RC45...

cwalker
02-28-2008, 03:56 PM
The new RSV4 is "the bike" I have been waiting for too, for years now. I so hoped in the beginning of the 4 stroke era that Suzuki (I am not at all a Suzuki fan) was going to build the newest GSXR based on the V4. I have owned a few Honda V4's and they have character, they make visceral noises and they are smooth.

The RSVR has a lot of my hope and enthusiasm bundled into it. I desire the new Aprilia far more than a D16. I would say I actually desire the new RSV4 as much as or more than a clean RC45...

there's a very clean RC45 for sale here in belgium for 10000 euro, nearly mint.

Micah / AF1 Racing
02-28-2008, 04:05 PM
Yes, yes and that is a very reasonable price. But my next V4 will the Aprilia, no doubt about it. The extra 50% in power and decade of chassis R&D will be worth the small price premium. I do dearly love the RC30 and RC45 though. I still get goosebumps when I fire up our 400cc version of the mighty Honda V4.

Jony2Stones
02-28-2008, 04:52 PM
I can't wait until details are confirmed --- and I can get some $$$ down on one....:worship::worship:

duc slayer
02-28-2008, 04:53 PM
can I start make payments now :D

Bill in OKC
02-28-2008, 05:06 PM
I'm trying so hard to keep my cool over this bike. Will you guys keep it down? This sort of thing is contagious. Damn I think its too late. :bangwall:

rx7tt95
02-28-2008, 05:30 PM
Anyone read the brief blurb on MCN's website? I know they've said prior the RSVR would continue on but...and this is a direct quote from the website;

"Aprilia took the decision to return to WSB in 2004, when it canned its RS Cube MotoGP machine.

Technical expert Neil Spalding told MCN the new WSB contender draws heavily on the Cube’s design, but has a different air-inlet set up.

“Air for the engine comes in through a large duct through the fame steering head,” he says, noting that the Cube routed inlet tubes around the forks.

Taylor says a road-going version of the RSV-4 is scheduled to become Aprilia’s flagship model later in 2008, when the current RSV road bike is discontinued.

“Our deal with Rotax for RSV engines comes to an end soon,” Taylor explains, adding that the new V4 motor is unlikely to be used in any other Aprilia road bikes."

Sal Khan
02-28-2008, 05:44 PM
Taylor says a road-going version of the RSV-4 is scheduled to become Aprilia’s flagship model later in 2008, when the current RSV road bike is discontinued.

“Our deal with Rotax for RSV engines comes to an end soon,” Taylor explains, adding that the new V4 motor is unlikely to be used in any other Aprilia road bikes."

That REALLY surprises me! Funny how things change in 2 years.

cwalker
02-28-2008, 05:45 PM
That REALLY surprises me! Funny how things change in 2 years.

the rsv will NOT be discontinued..not for the time being at least.

Jet City Racer
02-28-2008, 05:46 PM
can I start make payments now :D

Yeah, I'm already making payments towards the down payment. :D

cwalker
02-28-2008, 05:48 PM
Yeah, I'm already making payments towards the down payment. :D


send me half a dozen of those chicks you keep turning up with (real ones, not the pics of course, you cheapskate!!), and i'll see what i can do... :happy::happy:

mrgrn
02-28-2008, 07:35 PM
Yes, yes and that is a very reasonable price. But my next V4 will the Aprilia, no doubt about it. The extra 50% in power and decade of chassis R&D will be worth the small price premium. I do dearly love the RC30 and RC45 though. I still get goosebumps when I fire up our 400cc version of the mighty Honda V4.

cept the RC30and RC45 both won WSBK titles and aprilia has won nothing and whether their V4 will or will not is unproven

a RC30 wa still the fastest bike round hockenhiem i belive and i know of a guy in cali would woops arse on a stock 30 with stock forks and brakes and mine will beat the snot out of a few bikes too

PeterM
02-28-2008, 09:58 PM
I don't take much credence in comments like that. Too much hinges on the rider.

Can an SV650 out do a GSXR 600/750/1000? On the right road in the right hands it can. Same person on both bikes though, the GSXR would win.

Sal Khan
02-28-2008, 10:30 PM
I don't take much credence in comments like that. Too much hinges on the rider.

Can an SV650 out do a GSXR 600/750/1000? On the right road in the right hands it can. Same person on both bikes though, the GSXR would win.

I don't know if you could apply that logic to WSBK. Look at the new ZX-10R. Or even better: The FP1 when it tried to run just a few short years ago.

As far as the RC30/45.... IMHO: Different time, different place all together.

FredE
02-28-2008, 11:15 PM
aprilia has won nothing

Do you even follow racing?

Aprilia won both the 125cc & 250cc MotoGP titles this year.........and the FIM
Supermoto S2 manufacturers Championship, not to mention the AMA Supermoto Unlimited Championship and the Moto ST title.

As far as WSB, Aprilia has tasted success there also - Troy Corser won the first four races of the 2000 season aboard the Alice/Aprilia RSV.

Miticale
02-28-2008, 11:19 PM
Yea corser ended up finishing 3rd overall that season, I think? With Aprilia finishing 3rd (or maybe 4th) in the constructors.

They weren't GREAT in the old 500cc class either but McWilliams owned in Australia runnin' first for most of the race but succumbing to 3rd.

oMenRC51
02-29-2008, 02:38 AM
That bike...:plus:

MASHMAN
02-29-2008, 03:04 AM
Taylor says a road-going version of the RSV-4 is scheduled to become Aprilia’s flagship model later in 2008, when the current RSV road bike is discontinued.

“Our deal with Rotax for RSV engines comes to an end soon,” Taylor explains, adding that the new V4 motor is unlikely to be used in any other Aprilia road bikes."

If that's the case, I wonder if the V4 would adopt the RSV pricing then... great for V4 lovers and not too great for the V-twin lovers... I suppose that'd mean the RSV becomes a classic and cheaper insurance for all HURRAHHHHH :blah:

RSV AHH
02-29-2008, 07:08 AM
i luv my vtwin... the feel... the sound...

is a v4 like a vtwin, but since there's twice as many cylinders, just sound like the vtwin at double the rpm? (ie 2 bangs instead of 1 per revolution)

mrgrn
02-29-2008, 08:36 AM
Do you even follow racing?

Aprilia won both the 125cc & 250cc MotoGP titles this year.........and the FIM
Supermoto S2 manufacturers Championship, not to mention the AMA Supermoto Unlimited Championship and the Moto ST title.

As far as WSB, Aprilia has tasted success there also - Troy Corser won the first four races of the 2000 season aboard the Alice/Aprilia RSV.

i was speaking about the superbike series as that is the main streetbike sales for aprilia right? this is the thread about the new V4 for superbike, no little 2 smoke GP's?

As far as WSBK goes aprilia has done nothing and even their groundbreaking 3 almost bankrupt them


selling scooters and 125's is only going tpo last so long and while i like the mille without some serious race platform and some wins they are doomed IMO

my comment was on winnings of a RC series bike which won EVERTHING in its time while the mille has not done so.

i do hope the V4 does well and would like one but it is unproven as yet and 125cc wins does not make the V4 a sudden winner or the older twin mille either

hank
02-29-2008, 08:52 AM
i
selling scooters and 125's is only going tpo last so long and while i like the mille without some serious race platform and some wins they are doomed IMO


Scooter sales are only going to grow thanks to higher gasoline prices, city congestion management and the growth of new economies that require cheap & efficient transportation. It is a growth area whereas the sport bike category simply isn't...

Even the cops here in NYC have had excellent results from their initial foray with scooters and are increasing their fleet accordingly... Also, Mayor Bloomberg is pushing through a plan for a congestion charge for cars - modeled after that of London. Ever visit London's business district? Don't even try to count the number of scoots & small displacement bikes....they are everywhere! :eek:

Maxacceleration
02-29-2008, 09:06 AM
What about the weight of the V-four?
Aprilia & Ducati have a hard time keeping their twins at inline four weight levels.
Can Aprilia keep the weight down affordably with the V-four?
I see more motor, more chassis and little, if any weight savings...
...Keeping within price points. :confused:

duc slayer
02-29-2008, 09:27 AM
my comment was on winnings of a RC series bike which won EVERTHING in its time while the mille has not done so.

so how is the mille supposed to win races, when it's not raced??

Miticale
02-29-2008, 10:46 AM
selling scooters and 125's is only going tpo last so long and while i like the mille without some serious race platform and some wins they are doomed IMO


Well we have to remember that their scooter & 125 sales are marginal in the US but the companys BACKBONE in Europe, all my relatives that I see yearly all purchase SR50's & Scarabeos for their children @ 14 when in fact, all they want is that RS50 or 125, and maybe if they can find it, the elusive 250.

Furthermore with the expansion of their model line like the 450 & the shiver, and also the Mana coming in, the pricing and new model options that they are offering will help growing their general, consistent consumer base while just enabling them to continue on with their V4 and WSBK projects to cater to those with a more particular sports bike taste.

mrgrn
02-29-2008, 02:20 PM
so how is the mille supposed to win races, when it's not raced??


that is something to hang you hat on, are you not blushing when you write this?

duc slayer
02-29-2008, 02:27 PM
blushing....NO

more like laughing at your comparison

Sal Khan
02-29-2008, 02:46 PM
blushing....NO

more like laughing at your comparison

I can kinda see the original argument. OF course, at the same time, Aprilia is at fault for that. ;) :D

duc slayer
02-29-2008, 03:47 PM
OF course, at the same time, Aprilia is at fault for that.

my point for laughing at him, it has/had 0 to do with the bike and it's capabilities

GRMNMSL
02-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Just found this, haven't seen it before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0MpU88qdNw

bird
02-29-2008, 04:40 PM
On the weight issue, isn't that one of the Ducs advantages is its lighter? Back to the main topic and I know I am going to get blistered for this but some of the Raptors and Rockets photoshops looked better.

mrgrn
02-29-2008, 05:08 PM
my point for laughing at him, it has/had 0 to do with the bike and it's capabilities


OK, while my 12o hp 1990 RC30 will stick kick the milles arse 18 years later LOL

duc slayer
02-29-2008, 05:12 PM
well good for you and may I suggest a

http://www.nabiscoworld.com/chipsahoy/

Sal Khan
02-29-2008, 05:16 PM
OK, while my 12o hp 1990 RC30 will stick kick the milles arse 18 years later LOL

Well for the amount of money it cost back then, it better wipe your ass with Aloe Vera too! :D :) ;)

mrgrn
03-01-2008, 08:36 AM
so how is the mille supposed to win races, when it's not raced??


OK, so when it ran did it win races?

DeBenGuzzi
03-01-2008, 09:24 AM
OK, while my 12o hp 1990 RC30 will stick kick the milles arse 18 years later LOL

alright I'll bite, how do you have 120hp out of that nearly 20 year old 750 rated at 86hp? must be magic infused oil inside that baby

duc slayer
03-01-2008, 10:41 AM
OK, so when it ran did it win races?

page 13 post 185

hank
03-01-2008, 11:44 AM
As far as WSB, Aprilia has tasted success there also - Troy Corser won the first four races of the 2000 season aboard the Alice/Aprilia RSV.

To this day Troy Corser insists that the SP was the best bike on the entire grid and is one of the few bikes that he actually owns...

mrgrn
03-01-2008, 02:54 PM
so the whole mille line since 2000 wins are based upon a few wins by corser?

not knocking the line but it is about time they released a superbike and raced it with some wins not rely on 125 wins and yesteryore wins from troy IMO

i do hope the V4 bails them out or are they goping to be the whiter MV meat

mrgrn
03-01-2008, 02:59 PM
http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/hondarc30ownersclub2/photos/view/77ae?b=12

might not be able to see this but there are some others around i have to post for info and tony scott got 120+ all the time

heads, carbs and a blueprint and exhaust and HRC CDI can yield 20hp. shoot the carbs alone are 10hp and most stock RC30's are in the 90+ hp range

suedboy
03-01-2008, 03:51 PM
well good for you and may I suggest a

http://www.nabiscoworld.com/chipsahoy/

:funnypost:funnypost:funnypost:funnypost

drako
03-02-2008, 05:10 AM
Can one of the resident PhotoShop experts modify the new V4 with the same color wheels and a similar paint job as my 04' Factory? Just wanting to get an idea on what it could look like in street trim if Aprilia doesnt F it up with a gaudy paint scheme.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3126/04apriliafactory015fq3.jpg

Steve / AF1 Racing
03-02-2008, 09:30 AM
Lets try to cut out some of the non-relevant chatter about the RSV-4.

This thread is for factual information about the Aprilia RSV-4 and photos of it.

Thank you

Jony2Stones
03-02-2008, 09:42 AM
Lets try to cut out some of the non-relevant chatter about the RSV-4.

This thread is for factual information about the Aprilia RSV-4 and photos of it.

Thank you

:cheers::cheers:

Has Aprilia Released any more information to the dealers about this bike???

duc slayer
03-02-2008, 11:39 AM
what about the other 8 V-4 threads :D

drako
03-02-2008, 05:04 PM
what about the other 8 V-4 threads :D

:plus: :D

2pist
03-02-2008, 05:11 PM
Lets try to cut out some of the non-relevant chatter about the RSV-4.

This thread is for factual information about the Aprilia RSV-4 and photos of it.

Thank you

Thats what happens when desire exceeds the relative amount of information.

OZSLR
03-02-2008, 06:08 PM
Thats what happens when desire exceeds the relative amount of information.

Or a poster with a sig that reads

1990 RC30 Getting done
1994 RC45 getting
2001 RC51 Done up
2004 CBR 1000rr stolen
2006 Yamaha R1

Joins an aprilia forum :confused:

duc slayer
03-02-2008, 06:13 PM
ok,ok fella's I don't wanna get my pee-pee slapped

STEVE, I apologize I was just trying to crack a joke, not keep the BS going

hank
03-02-2008, 06:31 PM
ok,ok fella's I don't wanna get my pee-pee slapped



Hey now, don't get all PC on us - people pay good money for that kind of action :rolleyes:

mrgrn
03-02-2008, 06:42 PM
Or a poster with a sig that reads

1990 RC30 Getting done
1994 RC45 getting
2001 RC51 Done up
2004 CBR 1000rr stolen
2006 Yamaha R1

Joins an aprilia forum :confused:

piss off mate, you are a tool

don't be jealous and don't be silly enough to think i can't buy a aprilia. i have not yet and don'y completely knock the brand but come on, make a bike to race and get off your horse

OZSLR
03-02-2008, 07:32 PM
piss off mate, you are a tool

Maybe, maybe not, but unlike you, I'll refrain from a personal attack after questioning your motives.

As a 3 times aprilia owner and having gone through the pain of parts supply and an uncertain future as an owner, as a coordinator of local club rides for 5 years and having worked at one point for the local importers managing a dealer network all of whom had also spent several years in the wilderness just hoping for the ressurection of the marque (and some profitability), I have a passion and an interest in the brand and share an optimism for the future as with most others on here. The V4 is a positive sign for many of us, from a company that may have dropped the ball in recent years, but has brought many innovations to the table in racing, and were (albeit poorly executed) running pneumatic valves and fly by wire back in 2003.

I just don't see the point in posting negative comments and undermining the product in what is essentially an Aprilia owners forum. Owners of all brands are made very welcome here, but I guess if I were on a forum of a brand I did not nor had not owned and particularly had little knowledge of the brands race history as it appears in your case, I'd excercise a little more diplomacy.

So if that makes me a tool, then I'll wear that badge.

budoist
03-03-2008, 12:17 AM
piss off mate, you are a tool

don't be jealous and don't be silly enough to think i can't buy a aprilia. i have not yet and don'y completely knock the brand but come on, make a bike to race and get off your horse

Aprilia did, and does, make bikes to race. They're just not in the WSBK category, as previously mentioned. The original RSV line was built for WSBK entry. Did it win the title? No. However it is important to put that apparent failure in context. The RSV Mille was Aprilia's first attempt at a large bike. The company, previously, had only made scooters and small displacement bikes which had a reputation of kicking ass on and off the track. Placing third overall with a very first attempt, beating established marques with decades of history racing and developing in that class, is no small feat. Getting the reputation for quality and reliability right out of the gate is icing on the cake.

crojack
03-03-2008, 12:21 AM
piss off mate, you are a tool

don't be jealous and don't be silly enough to think i can't buy a aprilia. i have not yet and don'y completely knock the brand but come on, make a bike to race and get off your horse

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?lnk=rss&article=31602:rolleyes:

DeBenGuzzi
03-03-2008, 01:52 AM
Aprilia did, and does, make bikes to race. They're just not in the WSBK category, as previously mentioned. The original RSV line was built for WSBK entry. Did it win the title? No. However it is important to put that apparent failure in context. The RSV Mille was Aprilia's first attempt at a large bike. The company, previously, had only made scooters and small displacement bikes which had a reputation of kicking ass on and off the track. Placing third overall with a very first attempt, beating established marques with decades of history racing and developing in that class, is no small feat. Getting the reputation for quality and reliability right out of the gate is icing on the cake.

F'n AMEN to that statement, its ultimately the reason I own a Aprilia. other than some sketchy cost saving shortcuts on 04ish bikes, they are amazing. I wish I only had the money for a V4, I just know it will be $25K on the low side which is about 10k beyond my budget for a bike.

Alfie Whizz
03-03-2008, 03:34 AM
UK weekly rag MCN (not necessarily the most reliable source of information) had a two page spread on the RSV4.

They managed to say nothing in a thousand words, except a little snippet at the end quoting Aprilia spokesman Miles Taylor as saying that the road-going bike could be priced up to £15,000 ($30k), which seemed a curious price point.

Too much for a RSVR Factory replacement and obviously far to little for a homologate SP type bike.

Gabro
03-03-2008, 04:14 AM
Aprilia in this very moment is testing the RSV4 in the Vallelunga WSBK circuit, here in Rome.
but it's a reserved test. no entry :bangwall:

mrgrn
03-03-2008, 08:29 AM
Sneak in LOL J/K

get a better camera:)

mrgrn
03-03-2008, 08:31 AM
Aprilia did, and does, make bikes to race. They're just not in the WSBK category, as previously mentioned. The original RSV line was built for WSBK entry. Did it win the title? No. However it is important to put that apparent failure in context. The RSV Mille was Aprilia's first attempt at a large bike. The company, previously, had only made scooters and small displacement bikes which had a reputation of kicking ass on and off the track. Placing third overall with a very first attempt, beating established marques with decades of history racing and developing in that class, is no small feat. Getting the reputation for quality and reliability right out of the gate is icing on the cake.


fair enough, but they are going to try to race the V4 correct?

if they are not going to race these liter bikes then what is the market for them going to be?

Hey, kawi has not won a WSBK in some time either but i will say they are still trying in GP and WSBK and i would love to see a mille twin 1200 or this new 1000cc V4 do some winning, no?

badrags
03-03-2008, 09:20 AM
if they are not going to race these liter bikes then what is the market for them going to be?

I could have sworn I read an article where they stated the RSV4 would be replacing the current Mille. Could be wrong though.

ChicagoFactory
03-03-2008, 10:07 AM
I could have sworn I read an article where they stated the RSV4 would be replacing the current Mille. Could be wrong though.

You probably read it here. Post #177.http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141843&page=5

2pist
03-03-2008, 10:27 AM
I could have sworn I read an article where they stated the RSV4 would be replacing the current Mille. Could be wrong though.

The new Mille will be the V-4. The new RSVR will be a 1200 V-2 based on the shiver motor would be my guess. The numerical designation in Italian? Dodici Cento. I like that line up quite a bit.

ihilker
03-03-2008, 02:16 PM
The new Mille will be the V-4. The new RSVR will be a 1200 V-2 based on the shiver motor would be my guess. The numerical designation in Italian? Dodici Cento. I like that line up quite a bit.

Yep:plus: I agree. The RSVR,60,Rotax will be discontinued... but they will stick an in house 90 degree 1200 in the RSV and keep the twins going. That's what I would do if I were Piaggo/Aprilia.

All this race talk... how many of us actually race, or do more than 5 track days in a year. The current RSVR is one hellova street and track bike for any sportbike enthusiast.

The RSV4 is a bike that the market has been anxious for more than a decade, and save the D16 Ducati (which doesn't really count) no one has listened... Honda (who could have easily manufactured a full sporting V4) will "pay the price for their lack of vision" -Emperor Palpatine.

Mark my words... the RSV4 will start a sport bike revolution and the mighty V4will once again reign.

Gabro
03-03-2008, 02:35 PM
The numerical designation in Italian? Dodici Cento.


milleduecento ;)

shot a picture today at Vallelunga:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2046/rsv4oe4.jpg

iroc07
03-03-2008, 03:00 PM
nice, I am already likin the colors

Jony2Stones
03-03-2008, 03:02 PM
milleduecento ;)

shot a picture today at Vallelunga:


How did it sound....:worship::worship:

mrgrn
03-03-2008, 03:28 PM
milleduecento ;)

shot a picture today at Vallelunga:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2046/rsv4oe4.jpg

different muffler, right on man!

mrgrn
03-03-2008, 03:28 PM
Yep:plus: I agree. The RSVR,60,Rotax will be discontinued... but they will stick an in house 90 degree 1200 in the RSV and keep the twins going. That's what I would do if I were Piaggo/Aprilia.

All this race talk... how many of us actually race, or do more than 5 track days in a year. The current RSVR is one hellova street and track bike for any sportbike enthusiast.

The RSV4 is a bike that the market has been anxious for more than a decade, and save the D16 Ducati (which doesn't really count) no one has listened... Honda (who could have easily manufactured a full sporting V4) will "pay the price for their lack of vision" -Emperor Palpatine.

Mark my words... the RSV4 will start a sport bike revolution and the mighty V4will once again reign.


i do hope so:worship:

badrags
03-03-2008, 03:38 PM
milleduecento ;)

shot a picture today at Vallelunga:



OMG!! Keep them coming!!!

ihilker
03-03-2008, 04:47 PM
nice, I am already likin the colors

yeah... please aprilia, no gay color combos!!!!!!!

RS250 maTTz
03-03-2008, 05:53 PM
Hawt!!!

How did it sound?


yeah... please aprilia, no gay color combos!!!!!!!

2pist
03-03-2008, 11:13 PM
Gabro, you had to take more than one pic!!! please share. Do you have one from the front?

Gabro
03-04-2008, 01:33 AM
no, i'm sorry, no other pictures!
but the V4 was fitted with an RSV body, same as the the last track they did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0MpU88qdNw

mrgrn
03-04-2008, 07:27 AM
great stuff man

budoist
03-04-2008, 07:40 PM
fair enough, but they are going to try to race the V4 correct?


Yes, they are: WSBK as a wild card this year, full season next year and plans for AMA as well. Actually, as I thought of it, Aprilia did race the RSV-R with some success. I'd have to go hunting on their site for the stories, but I know they had a female rider who took a national title, they did well in endurance racing as well. Then there's the Moto-ST national title with the Tuono last year. They just didn't campaign in WSBK.

It seems like they're developing the V4 with a direct eye on WSBK competition. As everyone says, it's a great coup for them. The V4 was announced, I believe, before Ducati announced plans to homologate their GP bike. Triumph, with a race oriented triple, brought something to market that stood out from the pack. It turned out to be a huge hit for them. If Aprilia does the V4 right, its uniqueness should help it to be a hit for them too.

What I like about the V4 is that they seem to be taking their time. The Cube, from what I read, did not have this quantity of time devoted to its development. Sucks to be the eagerly awaiting, but hopefully the press will keep getting better and better.

mrgrn
03-04-2008, 09:52 PM
a 30k V4 wll wipe up the market if they can get it to the floor anytime soon

i have my eye on another V4 right now but would like to buy the V4 from aprilia

advocatt
03-05-2008, 01:29 AM
a 30k V4 wll wipe up the market if they can get it to the floor anytime soon

i have my eye on another V4 right now but would like to buy the V4 from aprilia

agreed.hope they'll released it anytime soon or i'll but the RC8 instead.

benya
03-05-2008, 07:47 AM
a 30k V4 wll wipe up the market if they can get it to the floor anytime soon

i have my eye on another V4 right now but would like to buy the V4 from aprilia

I have to disagree. $30,000 for a sportbike is not an attractive price. It won't sell in big numbers at that price. The Jap bikes will continue to dominate sales, and so will Ducati. Look how many 1098s they sold when they made it more affordable than the 99x series. Aprilia has a tradition of being the Italian exotic thats less expensive than the Duc and MV. I believe the tradition will continue. I expect pricing comparable to the current RSVR and Factory.

olie
03-05-2008, 08:45 AM
...I expect pricing comparable to the current RSVR and Factory.

...and with a 2000.00 rebate.:kidding:

Alternatively, you have your local multi brand japanese dealer just around your corner:rolleyes:

like with cars, there are MB, BMW, Alfas, etc etc and Toyota, Honda, etc etc.. Not at the same price or even the same reliability. meanwhile people make their choices.

mrgrn
03-05-2008, 10:46 AM
I have to disagree. $30,000 for a sportbike is not an attractive price. It won't sell in big numbers at that price. The Jap bikes will continue to dominate sales, and so will Ducati. Look how many 1098s they sold when they made it more affordable than the 99x series. Aprilia has a tradition of being the Italian exotic thats less expensive than the Duc and MV. I believe the tradition will continue. I expect pricing comparable to the current RSVR and Factory.


it does not have too seel big numbers, they sell scooters:kidding:

aprilia did not make this V4 to stop japanese from dominating sale, never going to happen, the $30k price point puts them less than the 1198 and over the 1098s, just right IMO. the 18k base 1098 is not their competition the mille is that right?

no way can they sell a V4 for their factory prices and make money, no way, no how, be nice though

benya
03-05-2008, 10:58 AM
...and with a 2000.00 rebate.:kidding:

Alternatively, you have your local multi brand japanese dealer just around your corner:rolleyes:

like with cars, there are MB, BMW, Alfas, etc etc and Toyota, Honda, etc etc.. Not at the same price or even the same reliability. meanwhile people make their choices.

I hear you. I have made my choice. Several in fact as I'm on my third Aprilia. I hope the V4 will be my fourth.

benya
03-05-2008, 11:03 AM
it does not have too seel big numbers, they sell scooters:kidding:

aprilia did not make this V4 to stop japanese from dominating sale, never going to happen, the $30k price point puts them less than the 1198 and over the 1098s, just right IMO. the 18k base 1098 is not their competition the mille is that right?

no way can they sell a V4 for their factory prices and make money, no way, no how, be nice though

I'm not saying they want to beat the Japanese, but they should want to compete with Ducati. The Mille is not the competition for the 1098, unfortunately. Its overweight and under powered in comparison.

Why do you say there is no way they could make money selling the V4 for Factory prices? Is the cost of manufacturing any higher? R&D? The engine is being built in house, that has to be a savings for Aprilia.

I also remember reading an interview with Aprilia's boss, where he said the V4 would be more than the Mille, but not much.