View Full Version : Wheelie techniques
11-17-2003, 02:23 PM
Anybody got any? specially if you ride trials etc, i used to ride push bike trials for a few years but the technique from that cant really be bought over :( (to a certain extent)
11-17-2003, 02:26 PM
depends on what ur wheelieing
11-17-2003, 02:28 PM
Ah rite yer, i took it for granted youd all think an rs50, so yeah rs50 wheelie techniques, before you ask, i know diff set ups use diff techs, i just mean all round wheelie techniques u lot use.
11-17-2003, 02:32 PM
well thers no way i can power wheelie mine but if u go realy slow
pull the clutch in, rev the shit out of it and drop the clutch after that its all balance :D
11-17-2003, 02:36 PM
you ever actually managed to keep the front up that way? im talkin proper techniques but cheers newayz! For example the whole key to masterin push bike wheelies was feathering the back brake and sitting comfortably at the balance point.
11-17-2003, 02:42 PM
balance is easy with power ive got a xl 125 and that wheelies:banana:
balance is the same whith any bike,scooter, quad,bmx rear brake and throttle controle is obvious or ull jus end up on yer ass
11-17-2003, 02:47 PM
See, that was a far better wheelie technique explanation than rev the shit outta it then dump the clutch. :p
11-17-2003, 02:53 PM
so can u get an rs ro stay up for longer than first gear?
11-17-2003, 02:56 PM
i cant personally but i bet its possible.
11-17-2003, 03:00 PM
not enuff power i think
11-17-2003, 03:27 PM
Isn't this where ApriliaGPR comes in?
11-17-2003, 04:07 PM
Yes it is, depends if your bike is moded or not if were talking the rs, on other rides I couldn't tell you there are to many variables. I can't do gear shifts in the middle of a wheelie, but this would definatley lead to the front wheel dropping on my bike I can pop it up without the clutch in first and second but the bike has to be in gear before I lift the front and I stand. I just run the bike up to where the power really kicks in and then its all one movement like jumping on a surf board. Stand up bounce once to compress the rear shock and as you come up from that bounce ring back the throttle and raise the front as high as you want, the wheelie will last as long as you can balance. I know one of the guys at AF1 racing can pull multi gear wheelies on thier RS's.
11-17-2003, 04:09 PM
2nd gear 30mph.
11-17-2003, 05:20 PM
Thas pretty sic, how long can you hold them?
11-17-2003, 06:46 PM
My longest is about 50-60 feet
11-17-2003, 06:50 PM
Sweet, uve basically got em dialled then, you tried em sittin down? spose its to easy to flip the bike :s
11-17-2003, 07:52 PM
you can pop straight up wheelie on a stock rs 50 thats what i have been doing i have some pic i will post too. all i do is stand on the back pegs get the bike moving in 1st gear around 7.5 rpms then i push fowaard on the front of the bike then while i slam the trottle i pull up and shift my weight towards the back and it pops straight up. thats basiclly how i do most wheelies on bikes or quads.
i have any idea for you,buy a r1 and whellie all dam day,how much are you asking from a 50cc motor,your whellie technics have been had !!!lol
11-18-2003, 04:33 PM
You get a better suspension bounce when you stand witch is critcal when not poping the clutch. I can do them siting down just as high but they don't last near as long. I get my stand ups much higher than that usually but the camera wouldnt shoot right and it was dark. I will post some good daylight 12 oclockers soon. notice I have to lean over the front of my bike to keep it from flipping backwards, sitting down this terrifies me and I don't like useing the rear brake on this bike wheelies because it has the tendancy to make the front end come crashing down hard.
11-18-2003, 05:07 PM
Strong Island son!!! Let em' know.. ha ha ha j/k
11-18-2003, 05:11 PM
Nick, you can ask plenty from a 50cc motor, specially from an rs50, just look at some of the performance figures some people are gettin here, mine will happy hit 85+mph! Oh yeah and about the R1, the wheelie technique would be near enough the same, im not talkin ''how to get the front in the air for a few inches and look like a twat'', you obviously dont understand the concept of ''techniques''.
11-18-2003, 05:19 PM
Because its more of a challenge on the RS. I have ridden many R1's,R6's,CBR's,GSXR's and have ripped wheelies on all of them its quite simple when your dealing w/ 100+ HP bikes. A coma patient can get on an R1 and rip a wheelie. Not everyone can ride a sub 20HP bike and ride it like much larger bike it takes skill. And because this is not R1 forum. I ride with Arkansas Extremes stunt group check out our web site Arkansasextremes.com if you want to see serious wheelies we also make proffesional videos that we sell.
11-18-2003, 05:21 PM
What kind of mods do you have on your 50 to get it up to 85+...especially in the gearing department. All I hear on this forum is ppl tlkin shit about 90mph rs50's. Here is your genius wheelie technique...."BALANCE" Get it up and then balance it. Good luck cuz I sure cant do it on my 50; the R1 is a different story.
11-18-2003, 05:25 PM
I hit 91mph staight up. I use 14/43 gearing and aggressive porting. Balance is also just a word it does not help anyone figure out how to do a wheelie. The trick is raising the bike to the balance point if you can't do that balance don't mean shit.
11-18-2003, 05:31 PM
What hp #'s are you pushin? Have you ever dynoed it? You are right on about the balance point... some one told him earlier to pop the clutch and get it up to the balance point and he said he wanted "TECHNIQUE"
11-18-2003, 05:36 PM
91 miles per hour??? I might want to model the bike that i get after yours...but i would want to give up a lil speed and keep some more torque... Is your bike agressive of the line at that gearing and speed??? Let me know cause I want to get 75-80mph top speed, while keeping some power off the line...
P.S. only reason i need that top speed is so I can get away with riding a steady 65-70 highway miles...
Damn 90 that's good shit!!!
11-18-2003, 05:53 PM
Hell yeah dude. its about tuneing and jetting, my bike rips off the line. Before I changed to deeper gears and my bike was fully moded with stock gearing it was rediculous I would get to about 78 pushing hard but the acceleration getting there was fantastic the front wheel would come off the ground in first and second as I hit the peak of the power curve, it was wicked it would literaly take your stomach, felt like a much larger bike.The fun was short lived because my new monster of an engine destroyed my chain within hours. Had to upgrade to 420 gold D.I.D. I just ride with 1000cc and 600cc bikes and need the extra speed to keep up.
11-18-2003, 05:54 PM
I am selling my bike soon if you are interested.
11-18-2003, 06:13 PM
There are a few people in this forum that think im some lil 16 year old kid wantin to pull a wheelie on a fast lookin 50cc bike, your wrong, i was just after decent trials type techniques that people use and have bought over into the sport bike scene, so all who said ''balance'' as if to treat me like a kid, fuck you! :mad:, of course some rs50's pull 85+mph, anything is possible, im gunna be running a full metrakit SP system along with loadsa other performance upgrades, then with the dyno tuning i should be seeing around 17/18bhp, i will be pulling easy 85mph+ with stock gearing, so a potential 90+ onwards is on the cards.
11-18-2003, 06:18 PM
Im interested, but i'm prob gonna get my bike in feb, march (want to put more money together for insurance) well how many miles do u got on it anyway?
11-19-2003, 03:23 PM
I am so glad I dont live in England. Wheelie = get the front way up and then balance. The hard part for the 50 guys is figuring out how to get the front up...hahah j/k
11-19-2003, 03:31 PM
Wakeslasher - someday you will meet someone who can ride and they will put u to shame.
I can wheelie an RS50 for distances no problems. And as for other bikes i can go for as long as u want me to.
And no i dont wheelie on the road, its squiddish, well appart from outside my house, over the bumps at speed but thats naturally occuring and once exiting the shell garage (oops).
And yes i can too corner and ride at speeds.
11-19-2003, 03:33 PM
Why are you glad you do not live in England?
Do you not like the idea of being able to open up the bike trader and see a vast ammount of fully road legal RS125's and RS250's forsale? How about the other 2t stuff you cannot get easily in road legal form, such as the RGV250, RG125, TZR250, TZR125, NSR125, NSR250, mito 125, planet 125, there are many but i cannot be arsed to name them all, we dont have the best weather but we have a fine selection of motorbikes.
11-19-2003, 04:11 PM
Living in England would be sweet. I want all those bikes. I would do nothing but ride.
11-19-2003, 04:11 PM
I sure cant wheelie my 50...I can get the front up but never keep it there any longer than 10 to 20ft The reson I am glad I dont live in England is b/c I wouldnt be able to ride my yamaha at age 16. Both wheels on the ground is plenty for the time being. I can ride it on the rear pretty well but the thought of going down is too much, plus the balance point is so high on it I almost crap my pants every time I take it up.
11-19-2003, 04:16 PM
11-19-2003, 04:16 PM
I would do nothing but ride.
Not with our super gay taxes, 73.7p for a litre of petrol! thats like about £3.60 for a gallon, so how much is that for you, about $5.80? The taxes are far to high on fuel here!
11-19-2003, 05:27 PM
GPR, for God's sake man, put on a freakin helmet when you are doing those.
11-19-2003, 06:07 PM
keep those white faces alive cause im gonna get one come end of winter early spring!!!
11-19-2003, 09:25 PM
well i live in conn for 93 octane it is about 1.82$ per gallon 87 is about 1.65 a gallon
11-20-2003, 06:50 AM
You should think yourself lucky you dont live in the uk with our extorsinate taxes:eek:
11-20-2003, 03:46 PM
Oh my God, you would have to own a bike to afford transportation there. My Dodge Ram takes like $40 bucks to fill the tank, that would equate to well over $100 bucks to fill my tank. Thats insane!
11-20-2003, 03:49 PM
I only wear a helmet when I plan on crashing. HAHA
Really I just got done with a 50mile ride and was not in the mood to keep that lid on, especially if I was trying to nail good wheelies.
11-20-2003, 03:51 PM
And they still cant seem to fix all the potholes, or clean up diesil spills or the crap that the farmers leave on the road! Also our roads are far too conjested!
I can stick in a gallon of premium for $1.70 here, and it lasts forever.
Nice change of pace from the mountaineer I've been driving, had to fill it up every other day.
11-21-2003, 09:53 AM
GPR, you seem pretty smart for a guy who doesn't wear a helmet.
I say again. PUT ON YOUR LID MAN> PLEASE!!!!
11-24-2003, 01:17 AM
Is it legal where you are to ride without a helmet?
11-24-2003, 11:24 AM
it's not about the legal thing GPR, if you crash or fall or whatever your head wont stand a chance without a lid, i've seen very nasty accidents because of people not wearing lids, some fatal. Okay maybe you dont neet it when doing little stunts on your drive/street, but even then I would wear a lid dude. It's a great risk, but then again so is riding :).
11-24-2003, 11:41 AM
On the other hand i have a freind who is now in a wheel chair because he fell off a YZ125 off road, while he had no lid on, but the doctors told him it was better that he was not wearing a lid because of the way he had fell off on this paticular occasion, the lid would of made his neck snap or somthing or other, yes he may be in a wheelchair now but he wouldnt even be alive if he wore a lid, but this could of just been a 1/100 chance, like i have said many times before i dont really belive in them, well the high priced ones anyways, its just people paying a fortune so they can have a lid the same as rossi or somthing daft.
11-24-2003, 11:49 AM
Well I payed 350 GBP for my lid, including the dark visor. In my opinion it is worth it or else all this safety people wont even bother with lids testing, which undegoes for years and years, whilst they improve the lid etc... but honestly I seen on the TV how lids do save people, then again I also saw how the bottom of the lid where there is no protection can be really dangerous specially for motocross drivers as really is like wearing nothing, and usually what happens if they jump way high like freestylers and fall down and there chin hits the handle bars, is really nasty. All the teeth brake and sink and dig onto the jaw, etc. But really I do think their is a purpose on buying a lid that costs 350 GBP and not something like a 50gbp lid. It's also about the street cred :D :D
11-24-2003, 11:53 AM
I'd rarther save the £300 to spend on my bike, hell i did do that :eek:
11-24-2003, 04:58 PM
Wheelies are not to much of a threat to my melon. I always wear one when I ride on the road though.
11-24-2003, 05:49 PM
in ct it not state law to were one only glasses
11-25-2003, 12:54 AM
well...i know for u guys in europe public transportation is much better, one of the reasons leading to more expensive gas prices, you guys use less of it i think...then again the US prolly uses the most...
I always wear a lid no matter what... well... not when i was learning screaming on a derbi through my quiet neighbor hood
my lid (arai signet gtr squadra black) was 390+20 S&H brand new off ebay, retail $520
i would always get higher wheelies with a slow roll and dumping the clutch at 11K, the bounce technique also worked well for me but it was about timing
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